Sex Selection: Are Indian And South Korean Families In Ontario Favouring Boy Babies?

Posted: 04/16/2012 12:06 pm Updated: 04/17/2012 9:42 am

TORONTO - A new study hints that some families of Indian and South Korean origin in Ontario may be practising sex selection to ensure they have boy babies.

The work, by researchers from Toronto's St. Michael's Hospital, shows that the ratio of boy births to girl births is higher than average among those two communities, at least among babies born to women who've already had one child.

But the lead author of the study urged caution in interpreting the findings, saying the work doesn't prove some women are aborting female fetuses because they want to have a boy.

Another researcher who has studied the sex selection phenomenon in India said that even if the finding is true, the study suggest the number of women practising sex selection in Ontario is not huge.

"There's certainly a ratio difference that's prominent, specifically amongst Indian women ... who have had at least two prior children and in the same way among (South) Koreans who have had one prior child," said lead author Dr. Joel Ray, a researcher at St. Michael's who practises internal and obstetrical medicine.

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But can one assume higher rates of boy births to immigrant women from India and South Korea are the result of sex selection? Ray said more research needs to be done to answer that question.

"We don't know and we've been really careful not to speculate on the mechanism — not for fear of insulting people or miscategorizing these ratios but because mechanism is completely absent in our study."

By mechanism, Ray means he has no evidence with which to explain the higher ratio of boy births. He is working on a follow-up study, looking at data on spontaneous and elective abortions in Ontario.

That carefully anonymized data set shows the number and gender of children previously born to women undergoing terminations or who had spontaneous abortions. It is broken down by the women's ethnic background as well.

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That would help fill in a key piece of the puzzle that is missing from this study, Ray said.

He and his colleagues can see, for example, that immigrant women from South Korean have more boys as second children than the general population. But are those extra boys being born into families that had a girl as their first child? Or is the elevated rate of boy births among third children in families of Indian descent happening in families where the first two children were daughters?

Without knowing the birth patterns in the families, it's hard to conclude whether sex selection or something else is at play, Ray said.

"We would strongly discourage people from drawing conclusions. Those conclusions are really presumptuous and medical science and other forms of science have often drawn conclusions about a whole bunch of different things that when you complete the picture you end up realizing the conclusions were premature and wrong."

In Canada there are, on average, 105 boys born for every 100 girls.

But the study, published in this week's issue of the Canadian Medical Association Journal, shows that in women who came to Ontario from South Korea and who have already had one child, 120 boys were born for every 100 girls among second children born to those women.

For mothers who came to Canada from India, there were 111 boys for every 100 girls among second children, and 136 boys for every 100 girls among third children.

The differences in those ratios may seem big, but Dr. Prabhat Jha also warned against jumping to conclusions.

Jha, director of the Centre for Global Health Research at St. Michael's Li Ka Shing Knowledge Institute, knows about the phenomenon of sex selection. He researched the issue in India, publishing studies that quantified the loss of girl children there due to cultural preferences for boys.

In a major study published last year in the journal Lancet, he and colleagues estimated that up to 12 million girls were not born over the past three decades because of the practice of aborting female fetuses.

He called Ray's paper suggestive, but said it doesn't prove this practice is happening in Ontario. (The two are colleagues, but Jha was not an author of Ray's study.) And if it is, the practice doesn't appear to be widespread, he said.

Jha noted that over the six years of births Ray analyzed, there were nearly 32,000 children born to mothers who had immigrated to Ontario from India.

Most of those children were first children, which were born at the Canadian average rate of boys to girls. The big discrepancies in rates were seen in the third and fourth children in a family, but the total number of third and fourth children was small — about 4,100 in total.

If those children were born at the average birth ratio, 1,999 of them would have been girls, Jha said. But the actual number of girls was 1,754, about 245 fewer than would be expected. That's less than one per cent of the total births to Indian born mothers in Ontario during the period studied, Jha noted.

"The phenomenon that is occurring is occurring in quite a small number of births, if it is occurring in Ontario," he said.

The suggestion that women from some immigrant groups are selectively aborting female fetuses because they favour boy babies is a hot button topic.

Earlier this year the then acting editor of the Canadian Medical Association Journal, Dr. Rajendra Kale sparked a heated debate with an editorial he wrote suggesting sex selection is being practised by some Canadians of Asian descent.

He suggested groups that govern doctors across the country should adopt policies refusing to inform pregnant women of the sex of their fetus before 30 weeks gestation, to foil the practice.

The recommendation was strongly rejected by others, including the Society of Obstetricians and Gynecologists of Canada.

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Saucy Tom
02:45 PM on 04/17/2012
This IS a Multicultural issue. Never in my 50 years have I ever heard of fetus selection in this Country. It is NOT our cultural way and if immigrants want to stupidly practice this birth selection then they should be sent home and let them do it there. I predict in 5 or so generations from now guess what? no more Middle Eastern Heritage because they stupidly wiped most of the woman to give birth, or worse the small percentage left will be having children from several blood lines. Way to go India, smart thinking.
01:50 PM on 04/19/2012
India is not in the Middle East
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AlisonCarnie
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10:49 AM on 04/17/2012
Aborting the girls ...

who the hell do you think is going to have the uterus for the next generation!?!?!?!
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emphatico
....is politically radioactive.
10:18 AM on 04/17/2012
I see that a lot of these comments are blaming multiculturalism in Canada for it. It's got nothing to do with it. Even in a "unicultural" society (there is nothing of that sort, by the way), people can still decide to have abo,rtion on any pregnancy they don't want. It's their choice. You can't sue people for what they are thinking.

So to all the ra,cis,ts who are salivating like Pavlov do,gs at this story, go back into your kennels.
11:02 AM on 04/17/2012
What an ignorant and incohrent response. It's their choice, to perpetutate patriarchy and male dominance in a country that is strides ahead of others?! Women in this country have worked very hard to get to where they are, any attempts to move back in time should be pointed out and rectified whereever and whenever possible. Taking cues from countries that do now allow women to read, drive vehicles or chose their own sexual partners should not be accpeted. Let us remember that a majority of cutlure outside of Canada imprision, stone or torture women who are raped, gang raped etc. - these women aren't even given the option of aborting. And also, nobody is trying to "sue" anyone, the comments and discussion are for the purpose of making Society aware of the patriarchy that is being imported into this country.
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Saucy Tom
02:56 PM on 04/17/2012
You should know what you're talking about first before commenting. The reason for the selection in the Middle east is girls cost the families money (marriages etc,) boys help with the incomes. That's why they prefer males in the society. Canadians voicing their anger over this practice does not make us racist. Are we not allowed to our own culture and beliefs, or do we have to conform to the world?
08:44 AM on 04/17/2012
Most of these cultures are Patriarchial; therefore, favouring the male child over the female. The subsequent problems associated with this type of selective societal engineering is just now being felt in countries like China and India. Bride stealing is one of the side effects. Yes, once again females suffer the wrath and result of decisions made by males in a Patriarchal belief. I would say that the current indications in Ontario are a call for a further and more specified study to substantiate the results or dispel the question arising from these new numbers. I would also say it is time to look at each province in Canada. If there is this type of gender selection being practiced then laws and medical practices have to change to help change the environment in which this can happen. Having said this, historically, even in our own society of immigrants from places like Germany, Russia, Scotland, England, etc have always placed more value on the male child than the female. The female being viewed as having to be sold or married off to relieve the burden on the parents.
08:15 AM on 04/17/2012
mothers body. mothers choice. pro choice. immigrants and canadian-born females are different.
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myrmex
08:44 AM on 04/17/2012
Except in most case it is not the mother's choice but based upon wich faith or doctrine brought with them from their past lives .... and not telling them the sex is even a worse case scenario as they will remove the foetus by other means than by a professional .
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08:06 AM on 04/17/2012
Dah...dah, dah....
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07:41 AM on 04/17/2012
Favouring boy babies and actively terminating female fetuses are two different things. In the case of this story, I think there is not enough evidence to conclude that this is happening in Ontario.
04:15 AM on 04/17/2012
Multiculturalism and mass immigration continues to delight Canadians, with the 'wonderful' and 'diverse' innovations it brings here...NOT!

And what's different about terminating a pregnancy--i.e., putting it bluntly, murdering a baby--because it's the 'wrong' gender, as opposed to 'because the mother feels like it'? Most abortions are NOT done for medically-necessary reasons. And abortions are generally done on the public dime, at PRIVATE CLINICS. Funny how the NDP and other progressive foes of private knee and eye clinics don't mind this.

It's time to reopen the abortion debate. And we need to admit that Confucian, Muslim, Hindu, and Sikh cultures are not compatible with Canadian cultural norms and values.
goleafsgo
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09:34 AM on 04/17/2012
This has nothing to do with the abortion issue.   This is a cultural issue.    It is a fact that boys are favoured over girls in many in those cultures, and the fact they are now Canadian does not change their belief, sad to say.      

Because a small segment of society is (maybe) taking advantage of medical procedures to assure they limit the number of girls they bring into the world is not a reason to re-open the abortion debate.

It is clear  from your language - "murdering a baby" and "PRIVATE CLINICS" - that you oppose abortion, and your views toward new Canadians border on bigotry and xenophobia.   This is Canada, my friend.  Not America.   Such attitudes do nothing to solve problems, they only incite discord.
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blackfriday1978
10:00 AM on 04/17/2012
... before you jump to conclusion, read more! Without immigrants, Canadian economy will be in the toilet like the US.

Also, "because the mother feels like it"? clearly, you don't know much... facts as well as human emotions. Don't think any women take that decision lightly just becase you are pro-life does NOT mean those who pro-choice does not care about life.
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05:34 PM on 04/16/2012
I think the title of the article is wrong - it should read "Sex Selection - Indian and South Korean Families in Ontario ARE Favouring Baby Boys". It's not a question - its a fact and its happening across the country. I live in a community in BC where over 25% of the families are Indo-Canadian, and is only 10 minutes from the US border, In the past twenty years there has been a US doctor who sets up an ultra sound machine in a border town (US side) hotel and advertises in the local Punjabi paper for clients. Women stream across the border and find out the sex of their baby (which they couldn't do here as easily) and then get abortions if its a girl. Now we have private 3D ultrasound clinics here in town where women can find out the same thing and make the same decision.

I don't understand how these people (many well educated, smart individuals) can't see the pattern already happening in China and India where villages are 80% male and there aren't enough women to marry. In both nations now we have reports of "bride stealing" where young women are kidnapped and made to 'service' a group of men (often brothers). Nice huh??

The outdated notion that men are more valuable than women has to stop - women must stand up and say "enough".
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Pondering panda
07:53 AM on 04/17/2012
I live in Ontario now, but while I was prego with my first daughter I was living invancouver. I remember when I asked the lady doing the ultrasound what I was having she told me I would have to ask my family doctor. It was later explained to me by a second US operator that were I identifiably caucasian the first lady probably would of told me, but because of the high rate of birth selection in BC they have all been directed not to reveal the baby's sex and that it's up to your family doctor to tell you. I don't know how much of what I was told was accurate in terms of law, but this was my experience.
Apparently a lot of women would go across to Seattle to have the births terminated. It's so sad really.
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agness nutter
What fresh hell is this?
12:06 PM on 04/17/2012
It's probably not accurate in terms of law - Canada has very few restrictions on abortion. When I was pregnant 25 years ago in Ontario, this was already an issue.
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agness nutter
What fresh hell is this?
11:59 AM on 04/17/2012
Of course it is happening - I don't understand the pussyfooting around in this piece. When I had genetic testing 25 years ago in Ontario it was already happening - the staff at the clinic didn't want to have to reveal the sex unless they were testing for a sex-linked condition. I can serve as a cautionary tale - the "daughter" we were led to expect from genetic testing turned out to be a son.
05:17 PM on 04/16/2012
Emigrate to Canada and then use our free medical services to commit genocide against female fetuses. How wacked has our permissive society become?
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04:42 PM on 04/16/2012
Gee, Ya think?? I hope that nobody ever thinks that they are morally ABOVE this kind of decision! I have found through observation that there is an aura of 'entitlement' to people from that part of the world.Especially, from those who have more wealth than common sense. Won't THAT be a world to behold! In twenty years.they'll have a glut of wealthy males who have to choose a spouse from the underprivileged! LOL! What a hoot! The rich will eventually just wipe themselves out!
04:09 PM on 04/16/2012
Liberalism smashes head-on with Liberalism.
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Cynthia Dudley
08:15 AM on 04/17/2012
Actually favoring male children is an aspect of Paternalism and Patriarchy.
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08:59 AM on 04/17/2012
YEAR 2012 now.
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agness nutter
What fresh hell is this?
12:03 PM on 04/17/2012
Liberalism? What a lazy, pointless and blindingly foolish comment. The groups that abort foetuses based on gender are hardly distinguished by their "liberalism".
12:40 PM on 04/17/2012
You don't get my meaning.

This obviously poses a problem for "_ab.or.tion-on-demand".

Sorry, I thought everyone would see that. I was wrong.