Danielle Smith Booed, Mocked On Climate Change At Alberta Election Debate

Posted: 04/20/2012 8:01 am Updated: 04/20/2012 9:26 am

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Wildrose leader Danielle Smith listens to Liberal leader Raj Sherman during the CBC leaders forum in Edmonton Thursday April 19, 2012. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Jason Franson

EDMONTON - Wildrose Leader Danielle Smith was roundly booed and mocked at an Alberta election debate Thursday for questioning climate change, with Premier Alison Redford suggesting Smith in the province's top job would be a national embarrassment.

"There is still a debate in the scientific community," said Smith before being drowned out by a chorus of boos and catcalls from hundreds of people who attended a leaders debate outside CBC's downtown studio.

"And we're going to continue to watch the debate in the scientific community," she said raising her voice to be heard.

The debate was the last chance for voters to see all four party leaders trading shots together on a stage before heading to the polls Monday.

Redford's right-leaning Progressive Conservatives are facing a serious challenge from the further-right Wildrose to their 40-year-old dynasty, dating back to 1971.

Polls put Smith's party out in front. But one recent survey suggested Wildrose had seen a large early lead over Redford's team slip somewhat as anti-gay comments from one Wildrose candidate, racist comments from another, and Smith's assertion on global warming made headlines.

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The Liberals have started calling the election a choice between "a bunch of bullies" and "a bunch of bigots."

The crowd at Thursday's forum was heavily weighted toward seniors and was a mostly NDP-partisan, judging from the decibel level of cheers when the individual leaders were introduced.

The climate-change debate was among the most spirited.

Emissions from Alberta's oilsands plants, along with its great inland lakes of toxic waste, have become the poster pictures for those who label Canada environmentally irresponsible.

The effects of those images were seen recently when environmental protesters helped block approval of the Keystone XL pipeline from Alberta to the United States on the grounds Canada needed to be sent a message to clean up its act.

It became an issue in the election campaign earlier this week, when Smith reiterated the Wildrose party's long-standing policy that the science of climate change is not settled.

Smith said despite her concerns, the Wildrose party would still take steps to reduce emissions through consumer rebates to spur investment in hybrid vehicles and energy efficient home retrofits.

"We're going to put in constructive policies," said Smith.

"Rebates are not going to fix this problem," NDP leader Brian Mason shot back.

"In my opinion, the science is completely settled. The only people that are disputing it are the phoney scientists funded by the oil industry," he said to cheers. "We need to get serious about it."

Mason said government needs to fix the problem at the industrial level with hard caps on emissions, moving away from coal-fired electricity generation, and funding more mass transit.

"There are a lot of things that could be done that should have been done a long time ago, but denying the science of climate change is just foolish."

Redford said if Alberta has a premier questioning climate change, it won't be taken seriously on the national or international stage.

"When I go to Washington and I talk to people in the White House, at Capitol Hill, and I'm trying to talk to them about why we need Keystone, they don't want to hear that I don't believe in climate change," she said.

"They want to know they have a premier and a leader from this province who is prepared to understand that this impacts our markets, this impacts our investors, and if we don't take it seriously it will impact our economy and our way of life."

Liberal Leader Raj Sherman said his party is also calling for hard caps on emissions, and said they aren't questioning climate change.

"Science informs our position," he said.

Recent polls have also suggest that traditional Liberal and NDP voters may be switching loyalties to the Progressive Conservatives as a palatable centrist alternative to block the right-wing Wildrose.

One video going viral on the Web depicts a young Alberta man admitting he'd rather have his face chewed off by rodents than vote PC, but will anyway to keep the Wildrose from the levers of power.

At the end of the debate, Smith urged people to vote straight up.

"You should vote in your heart who you think will best represent you in the legislature," she said.

"Having a government that has been in power for 41 years and created all of the problems that we have today, I think one thing that the opposition leaders will all agree on is that is not a government that deserves to have another majority."

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  • Redford Under Seige

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  • Closing The Gap

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Dale Chan
Hope is both panacea and poison.
02:07 PM on 04/22/2012
Anyone supporting this woman, and people like her, need to read this book.

A Short History of Progress, by Ronald Wright.
11:29 PM on 04/21/2012
Its nice to see that she was booed and mocked because of her climate change denial.
01:50 AM on 04/23/2012
Isnt part of democracy to allow people you disagree with being given a chance to speak
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canuckhoser
Don't mind the man behind the curtain
08:11 PM on 04/23/2012
That doesn't make sense...you think the denial machine hasn't had their chance to disagree and speak...? No one is mocking her right to say it, they are mocking her for what she says.....this argument is quite lazy. It's not as if this is a freedom of speech issue..lol
02:12 AM on 04/26/2012
She was allowed to speak. And she was replied to.
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Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati
11:12 PM on 04/21/2012
The data shown on the graphs comes from reputable, verifiable sources. Where the graphs are posted is irrelevant to any intelligent viewer who understands science and graphical representations of data. It's pointless to argue with religious zealots who can't grasp that . Believe whatever makes you feel good,
http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.ca/2012/04/vivid-illustration-of-how-global.html

" It really gives a good idea of just why the climate debate is broken. The ratio of ad hominem attacks to actual thoughtful discussion of science is just amazing, and the implicit assumption that there are no people of goodwill on the other side of the debate is both wrong and dangerous. I invite you to compare the tone, content, and tenor of his articles on climate with mine on this site. There have been five: [see article for links]. The first two try to pin down where skeptics do and don’t agree with the theory of catastrophic man-made climate change. The other three, including this one, have been lamentations on why the discourse around climate is so unproductive."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/warrenmeyer/2012/04/19/a-vivid-reminder-of-how-the-climate-debate-is-broken/
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4evercanadian
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06:11 PM on 04/22/2012
Well NO60, I really have to wonder who exactly the religous zealot is here. This is your third attempt to post these links, so this is my third response.

Forbes is a business magazine, who might understand economics, but I doubt that they know much about climate science. The author of the article, Warren Meyer, is a mechanical engineer who lives in Phoenix. He runs a business that is attempting to get Arizona to turn over public parks to him so he can privatize them for his own profit. On earlier threads you and others posted that David Suzuki was not qualified to be talking about climate change. If he, as a scientist, is unqualified then a mechanical engineer, who is not a scientist, is certainly not qualified.

So that leaves me with the same conclusion I used last time:

"Well, this is empirical evidence, written by the scientific community at NASA and peer reviewed by other scientists: http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2011-temps.html

Once you can provide links to material written by the scientific community that has been peer reviewed by the scientific community that really does prove that climate change isn't happening, then you are deceiving yourself and potentially others."
11:25 PM on 04/23/2012
Well said! Thank you for your effort to keep the narrative factual and honest.
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nikki717
War...what is it good for?
11:11 PM on 04/21/2012
This is par for the course for her....not surprised
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06:50 PM on 04/21/2012
The scary thing is, this (a significant number of scientists question the CO2-climate change connection) gets repeated all the time on TV and in the press without any (factual) challenge. Instead, we hear the deniers more than, well, every other scientist in the field.

My Liberal-voting, CBC-listening, Globe-reading, nature-loving, usually pretty well-informed mom doesn't like Smith or her party, but when climate change came up during those CBC debates, she said "Well, I hate to admit it, but she's right about that. Don't most scientists now think there's no connection to CO2, but we never hear that because of all the hoopla around David Suzuki and Al Gore?"

And she's never watched Fox or Sun News.
11:22 PM on 04/21/2012
Oil companies pour a lot more money into ads in places like AB. Soothing sounding voices in commercials that are nothing more than propaganda.
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canuckhoser
Don't mind the man behind the curtain
08:13 PM on 04/23/2012
By "significant", how many do you mean? Who? What have they published? Is their research available and verified...because if that is what you actually believe I have a bridge to no-where to sell you...
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11:04 PM on 04/23/2012
Yeah, that's sort of exactly what I said.
06:26 PM on 04/21/2012
Go Danielle. She is awesome.About time she put this global warming BS up for debate. Wish she was here, running in the have not province of Ontario, so we can kick McGuinty to the curb.
12:51 AM on 04/22/2012
She can't put it up for debate because she knows nothing about it! She is not a scientist, and has not studied it. She is repeating what she is told to say by the Fraser Institute and her junior oil backers. Even Big Oil does not deny the fact of climate change. This woman has no business running for premier of Alberta.
01:51 AM on 04/23/2012
Just because she isnt a sheep in the Suzuki-Gore cult makes her unfit,foolish drivel!
Dinsdale Pirahna
"lookin' out the 'ole in the wall"
03:57 PM on 04/21/2012
"...Let’s begin with the preliminaries. The first is that global warming isn’t a scientific theory, it’s a scientific fact. The time for debate has ended. We can still argue over tipping points and the minutia — like when the arctic will become ice free during the summer months, or how much world sea levels will rise by 2050 — but the core truth is as solid as the rock of Gibraltar. Global warming is a scientific fact. We're just dotting the Is and crossing the Ts..."

Of course, many people, including Canada's Prime Minister and US Senator James Inahofe, have been bamboozled into believing that global warming is a hoax or a socialist money grab, ignoring the fact that conservative governments throughout the world are already vigorously fighting climate change.

And many others think that scientists are still engaging in a vigorous debate. With thousands of studies all pointing in the same direction, how is that possible?

http://one-blue-marble.com/climate-change-denial-industry.html
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Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati
04:23 PM on 04/21/2012
If it makes you feel good to believe that, then go right ahead, just don't expect the rest of us to buy into your personal beliefs.
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06:38 PM on 04/21/2012
How is this about beliefs? She apparently believes there's a large group of scientists questioning human-caused climate change when, in fact, there's not.
07:36 PM on 04/21/2012
what do you mean "personal beliefs? Is the existence of gravity also a personal belief? Are you Stephen Harper?
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06:36 PM on 04/21/2012
I believe I'm 6'2" even though 99 percent of tape measures I've ever found say I'm 5'8." The one that agrees with me, well, unfortunately I had to make it myself. But now I can say there's vigorous debate as to my actual height.
03:50 PM on 04/21/2012
It does seem that the lowest form of Human kind seem to be attracted to Politics, The dumber and more ignorant you are, it seems to be a benefit to the Political process whether or not it's Canadian, American or some Despot dictator they all seem to have failed public school and worship some mythological being, creature or story book. Pretty Scary kids.
02:44 PM on 04/21/2012
Wilful ignorance moves its way north.
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Mona HB
01:11 AM on 04/22/2012
It's a pledge they sign to be allowed to support the most right wing party available.
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Arnold Gill
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03:50 AM on 04/21/2012
So, it seems that unlike the Excited States, people in Canada have brains enough to understand that climate change is real, and that politicians that claim otherwise are liars.
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Larry Mutter
07:01 PM on 04/20/2012
That Canadians of any province would actually support these far right Parties is actually disturbing.
07:54 PM on 04/21/2012
Albertans are different...they want the money
05:54 PM on 04/20/2012
Albertans, please do not vote in the wildrose party... Although Anne might seem alright.. There are individuals in her party that are lunatics.
Oil is a temporate source of revenue.. Climate Change IS happening.. Being ignorant and completely against it because it directly confronts your direct wealth will only lead to a bigger cleanup and diaster in the future.. These Big-Oil corps do not care about your livlihoods, all they care about is their profits, because that's the economic incentive in the province and global commodity markets!

God help us if Anne and her Wild-talk party get in charge.
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06:53 PM on 04/21/2012
Danielle.

The funny thing is, I've heard a bunch of people (yes, they're guys) say that they're amazed at how intelligent Smith is. It doesn't matter (or, it's not noticed) that she's either usually contradicting herself, repeating Republican-style talking-points or just not really saying anything.
04:10 PM on 04/22/2012
Sorry for my spelling-mistake. haha..
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giantsteps
05:51 PM on 04/20/2012
Yeah they were brought in by the PC party. I don't trust Redford. She is a good old boy in a skirt.
05:27 PM on 04/20/2012
I don't think she is fit to be a leader if she personally has to believe something in order for it to be a focus. Is she even capable of studying and understanding the weight of the science in order to personally be on board? Does she have to personally understand the evidence regarding her medications or does she take her doctor's and pharmacist's advice? The arrogance of discounting the weight of scientific evidence and saying she has a different point of view. Does she think the earth is flat? Because when she personally looks out on the horizon, she does not see a sphere. Albertans, pay attention. You are a bit different but surely many of you are educated enough to know that you don't know everything and neither does this arrogant woman. Get someone with common sense to lead your province.
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12:40 AM on 04/22/2012
LOL! Alberta is pretty flat, so I wouldn't be surprised if Danielle believed the "flat earth" myth. If you're outside of the cities and view the horizon, it does look as if you could fall off the edge!
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greysells2
grey cells matter
05:16 PM on 04/20/2012
And the evidence supporting climate change denial is....? Biblically derived beliefs? That would be religion not science. It seems to me that climate change is attacked by the Fundies but they offer nothing but 'statements" that it is not proven [yet or ever?]. All hypotheses are subjected to the same proofs using the scientific method, peer review and replication. Fundies like the results that the scientific method have given to all of us but they only want the stuff that they approve of according to their religious beliefs.
02:31 AM on 04/21/2012
The evidence supporting anthropocentric global warming is? Consensus, "Scientific consensus is the collective judgment, position, and opinion of the community of scientists in a particular field of study. Consensus implies general agreement, though not necessarily unanimity. Scientific consensus is not by itself a scientific argument, and it is not part of the scientific method. Nevertheless, consensus may be based on both scientific arguments and the scientific method." Wiki. And that is what many put their faith in to support a group if learned scientists who at the end of the 1970's told us with the same assurance as today, we are headed for the next ice age. The only real difference is some them are older now.
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07:05 PM on 04/21/2012
Yeah, that's "because I can't see it myself, it mustn't be true" evidence -- "If they're so smart, why aren't I living in an igloo? Answer that, scientists!"

"The evidence supporting anthropocentric global warming is? Consensus" That kind of challenges Smith's suggestion that there isn't consensus.

What I don't understand is why we're so resistant to look at alternatives to fossil fuels (apart from the fact that Alberta's entire economy depends on them). Eventually (yes, not in our lifetimes or likely even our grandchildren's) they'll be gone. And how can reducing emissions be a bad thing, unless the alternative is actually worse for the environment?
07:57 PM on 04/21/2012
Where are you getting this stuff and why do you bother? Try to watch the documentary called "the Age of Stupid". You might experience it just like looking in the mirror
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Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati
03:05 AM on 04/21/2012
Here's the empirical evidence refuting CAGW
http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.ca/2012/04/vivid-illustration-of-how-global.html
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4evercanadian
Still my guitar gently weeps
10:45 AM on 04/21/2012
This is a bunch of graphics that are related to a linked article by a guy named Warren Meyers. He runs a website called climate skeptics. He is a mechanical engineer and runs a business that is attempting to privatize public parks Arizona.
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Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati
03:35 PM on 04/21/2012
Jan 2012 was colder than Jan 1942 and Jan 1944.

Jan 2011 was colder than Jan 142 and Jan 1944.

Is 70 years long enough to see a trend?

http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/hadcrut3gl.txt