Quebec Student Strike: Montreal's Riotous Night Leaves A Mess After Government Talks Break Down (VIDEOS)

CP  |  By Posted: 04/26/2012 4:00 am Updated: 04/27/2012 2:39 am

MONTREAL - Seventy-two days, 160 protests, hundreds arrested, multiple injuries, multimillion-dollar costs for law-enforcement _ and zero solutions in sight.

Those were the bleak numbers that emerged Thursday from Montreal, the epicentre of a Quebec student-protest movement that has begun making international news.

While CNN showed its viewers riotous scenes from the streets of Canada’s second-biggest city, and newspapers in other places picked up the story, local authorities pleaded for a resolution.

Mayor Gerald Tremblay pointed to dangerous events in recent days _ namely the tossing of bricks in the city’s subway system and rocks off a downtown overpass.

This week there have also been windows shattered on a number of cars and businesses, and physical confrontations between police and protesters. Thousands of students continue to boycott their classes. One group promises nightly demonstrations.

Tremblay pleaded with the provincial government and students to make peace, before something really bad occurs.

“Does a tragedy have to happen?” Tremblay told a news conference.

“Montrealers ... are fed up. They don’t want to go through this. This stuff always happens in Montreal. It’s the same thing for the businesses affected... It’s the same thing for Montreal’s reputation on the world stage.”

He was speaking after an eruption of unrest late Wednesday, as the government and students broke off negotiations that few had expected would have made much progress, anyway.

Montreal’s police chief said his troops were getting tired. He rattled off a list of numbers _ like the 160 protests he says have occurred in the city in recent weeks _ to illustrate his point. He said those events had occurred over 72 days during the 11-week fight over tuition.

Those numbers increased with yet another protest in downtown Montreal on Thursday night that drew an estimated 1,500 to 2,000 people.

Police said projectiles were tossed in the direction of officers, forcing authorities to declare the march illegal. It was then allowed to resume shortly after, then fizzled out by about 12:45 a.m..

Police said there were isolated incidents and one person was arrested for lighting pyrotechnics, but it nothing along the lines of Wednesday night.

There were increasing signs the protests aren’t just about tuition anymore.

Many marchers have taken to calling these events the, “Quebec Spring,” or, “Maple Spring,” casting their cause as part of a broader, international Occupy-style fight for a new economic order. A number who marched in Montreal this week also demanded the resignation of Premier Jean Charest _ or general elections.

“A lot of people have stopped calling it a student movement; now it’s a social movement, and I think that it affects people in a much deeper way than just tuition fees,” said Catherine Cote-Ostiguy, a French literature master’s student at McGill University.

Another French literature student at the Universite du Quebec a Montreal, Martin Gendron, added: “The whole protest is against the neoconservative and neoliberal point of view of doing politics... People in Quebec are using this movement as a means of venting against the current government.”

The government, meanwhile, doesn’t appear to be hurting politically as a result of this, so far.

Already deeply unpopular and facing an impending election, the Charest Liberals have actually seen their fortunes improve, according a recent survey. While their own popularity score didn’t increase, they gained ground on the Parti Quebecois _ which has been deeply supportive of the protests and has seen its numbers drop.

Surveys also suggest Quebecers generally support the idea of hikes.

A number of pundits have begun accusing the premier of cynically using the unrest for his own political aims. One columnist called it odd that a government renowned for backing down in the face of any fight appears so determined to keep up a battle now, against students, with unrest in the streets.

Premier Jean Charest reacted angrily when asked Thursday about the notion that he might be planning an election campaign on the issue.

“I find that grotesque,” he snapped at reporters in Quebec City.

“Let me point something out to you: Who talks about elections? The PQ, CAQ (party), the media? And I never do. This (tuition) decision was taken a year ago _ so when I read things like that, I mean, come on...

“I have never raised the issue of an election. It’s never raised by me, it’s raised by others.”

His main antagonists, however, accuse the government of intentionally sabotaging talks. Students say there’s never been any indication the government might be willing to yield an inch on the tuition issue.

In fact, a brief three-day attempt at negotiations went so badly that the sides now find themselves arguing over who’s responsible for the fact they’re no longer talking.

No resumption has been planned yet.

Education Minister Line Beauchamp rejected further talks with the students Thursday because of their demand that two members from a more radical group be involved.

Beauchamp has said there would be no negotiations with members of a student federation known as the C.L.A.S.S.E. The government believes the group has not done enough to condemn the violence over the past two months.

Talks between the two sides aimed at settling their bitter tuition dispute ended Wednesday when the C.L.A.S.S.E. was kicked out for not respecting a truce on protests.

That prompted the other student groups to walk out and, with negotiations suspended, protesters instantly spilled out into the streets with one Montreal demonstration degenerating into window-smashing, rock-tossing vandalism late in the evening.

Banks, cars, a book store, and even a downtown police station were attacked. Police fought students with chemical irritants and riot gear.

Protesters said they over-reacted, with a one-size-fits-all response that attacked many peaceful protesters along with the few masked troublemakers in the crowd.

On Thursday morning, there appeared to be a brief sliver of potential for progress.

The government and two protest groups appeared set to resume discussions. One of the groups said it would invite representatives of the C.L.A.S.S.E. to replace some of its own members.

Not so quick, was the reply from a government spokeswoman. Such guests were unwelcome at the talks _ not even by proxy.

”You can’t have something indirectly if you’re not getting it directly,” said Helene Sauvageau, a spokeswoman for Beauchamp.

The Liberal government wants to hike tuition by $325 a year for the next five years. That would mean annual tuition fees of about $3,800, which would still be among the lowest in Canada.

Students say they’re fighting for principles, starting with easy access to education.

They also received support Thursday from a number of Ontario unions, social movements and student groups who signed a petition in favour of the protesters’ cause.

“It shows how it’s possible to fight back,” said Alan Sears, a spokesman for the group, which comprises CUPE-Ontario, the Ontario Council of Hospital Unions, the Canadian Federation of Students-Ontario and groups at Ryerson and York universities.

“That can help inspire movements here to have a different kind of action, and a more effective kind of action.”

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11:18 AM on 04/27/2012
Not a student protest anymore
02:26 PM on 04/26/2012
the students need to realize that the more they act like terrorists (throwing bricks onto the metro tracks, throwing rocks off of highway overpasses, setting off smoke bombs), the more the public will perceive them as such.
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elatas
50% French and 50% Italian mix
07:19 PM on 04/26/2012
All student associations have said they do not and have never condemned violence.

Do you make all hockey fans responsible when there's a riot after a Stanley cup win?
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elatas
50% French and 50% Italian mix
08:13 PM on 04/26/2012
I mean condone violence
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haddanuff
Progressives think 'We' while cons think "Me"
02:22 PM on 04/26/2012
The right wing would rather see less education and more ignorant fear.

The dumbing down of the population serves their corporate masters, well.
02:27 PM on 04/26/2012
yes, it's all one giant corporate conspiracy. good thinking.
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King Stevie Harper
07:03 PM on 04/27/2012
actually it is, its called monopoly
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db44
From My Perspective
01:35 PM on 04/26/2012
Quebecers already pay enough high taxes and the student solution is apparently more taxation to hold the fees down. Whining brats. Thankfully they do not represent everyone.
12:27 PM on 04/26/2012
Education IS an entitlement -- it is also one of the best ways we can invest in the future -- a future that will be built on ensuring ALL have access to education -- not just the rich or those who had parents able to save. We face a future with great uncertainty on so many levels -- educated Canadians will be key to our future successes. It is shocking that provinces like Alberta that are blessed with so much wealth from natural resources does not offer FREE university education! Other countries around the world do -- why can not we?
12:37 PM on 04/26/2012
Is it an entitlement because you say it is? The only entitlements we have as Canadians are in our charter of rights. Everything else is a priviledge.
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Steve Lives
The Venus Project ... look it up
01:02 PM on 04/26/2012
Care to explain your position? Human rights should not be paper proclamations but a way of life. It is unfortunate that we still have to challenge our owners for rights that should be natural. Education is one of those rights.
01:06 PM on 04/26/2012
In Canada education is already treated as a right and more -- it is compulsory and free now -- but just as we need to expand the coverage to include pre-school -- in the long run we really should be doing the same for university and college students too. The minimum standards compulsory education need to keep pace with the changing realities in our world -- long gone are the days when a high school education is sufficient to ensure a child’s full development and participation in social life -- let alone provide the skills, knowledge and learning necessary to live in dignity. University or college level education is the standard for contemporary and future society in Canada and around the world. We need to update our education policies to the realities of the 21st century and ensuring a level playing field for the cost is key!
01:19 PM on 04/26/2012
One of the reasons Alberta does not offer free education is because of the provincial equalization payments, a fund that helps support students like those in Quebec allowing them to have the lowest tution in Canada. Yet you don't see Albertans rioting in Calgary or Edmonton. I wish we could cut back on funding other provinces so students in Alberta could have cheaper university.
04:37 PM on 04/26/2012
You don't seem to understand what equalization means. Equalization doesn't make Quebec richer than Alberta, being more able to support low tuition fees. You should fight for secession if you don't want to make transfer payments. I encourage you.
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Capital Ottawa
12:15 PM on 04/26/2012
Free Tuition throughout Canada would cost 4 Billion annually. One F-35 jet, has a "full life-cycle cost" of $137 Million (US Government Accountability Office).

It's a matter of priorities, there is no good reason why post-secondary education could not be free or more accessible. I would rather have my tax dollars invested in our future generation than fighter jests or corporate tax breaks. If everyone got behind the students and demanded lower tuition rates, rates would go down. It does little good to bash the protestors while complaining about higher tuition fees elsewhere in Canada.
12:45 PM on 04/26/2012
I would agree to funding education for skills that we need as a society: Doctors, Nurses, Teachers and Researchers. But why should I pay for someone to get their engineering degree where they wil wind up making money for a private cirporation which gives nothing back to the community? And why should I pay for someone to get an Arts degree? I have other priorities for my tax dollars.
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Capital Ottawa
01:14 PM on 04/26/2012
Many great contribution have been made to Canada by those who studied Arts or Engineering... Mike Lazaridis founder of RIM studied electrical engineering at University of Waterloo; author Rohinton Mistry studied English and Philosophy at University of Toronto.

Those engineers and and "artsy" workers will all be middle class taxpaying Canadians, purchasing goods and services in their communities. A strong middle class grows the economy, not the rich. Making post-secondary education financially accessible to all, levels the playing field.
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Chris Long
11:57 AM on 04/26/2012
Another fine example of the entitlement culture. Of course, these students wouldn't consider finding some work that would pay for the extra $325.00, yes $325.00 per year tuition. Guess what folks it takes money to hand out money.
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Steve Lives
The Venus Project ... look it up
01:12 PM on 04/26/2012
An uneducated person in our society is a person who will most likely earn less, pay less taxes, and contribute less to society in general. It is an investment in Canada to ensure everyone has equal access to education. Canada is a vast country, with vast resources, and a small population. Education should be free to those with the desire to pursue it. The benefits of this far out weigh the cost, in terms of poverty alone.
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Chris Long
04:09 PM on 04/26/2012
Oh yes, I agree. My housing, transportation and food should also be the responibility of others don't you think. Let me tell you, I am so sick and tired of this something for nothing society that I have taken a step to join in. In my county, there is currently a give away program for updating home energy efficiency, including 35% for HVAC upgrades. This is not a tax deduction but an "up front" 35% that is paid to the contractor, my cost is reduced by an immediate 35%. COOL 'eh. Well, I am so pissed off by the 47% that pay no income taxes that I have worked this out to recieve a $14,000 brand new Trane heat pump/ NG furnace at NO COST TO ME, not just the 35% but NO COST AT ALL. It just takes some creative #'s and a friend in the HVAC business to work this out. I could certainly write a check for the system, but why should I when I can also ":game the corruption" I will now be looking for ways to further get my money back. Sick and tired of the failed BS, now I will get even.
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Chris Long
04:20 PM on 04/26/2012
NOW, and RIGHT NOW, I want my hand out, DO NOT DENY ME or I will throw rocks through your windows. I want it NOW, PAY ME or else.
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King Stevie Harper
03:47 PM on 04/26/2012
and where will these un-educated people find this imaginary work you speak of?
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elatas
50% French and 50% Italian mix
11:42 AM on 04/26/2012
Students have been calm for over 10 weeks. What does the government expect? Students are asking that the government cleans up the education system and eliminates waste. They have made many suggestions that have not been heard. At this time when multiple examples of bad management have been found out by media, it is a shame that the government doesn't want to hear the students' suggestions. Asking for a raise of tuition fees without making some changes to eliminate bad management (UQAM Ilot des voyageurs, rector's golden parachute, etc.) has led to this impasse. It is up to Charest to take the lead and compromise. A hike of tuition fees could be maintained but maybe not a 75% increase and not in this timeline. Students are now at a press conference asking to negotiate.
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JackRackem
Just tryin' to have a good time.
01:19 PM on 04/26/2012
Every other University student in the country (myself included) has had to pay 3 to 5 times the tuition fees of Quebec students, while Quebec, for the last 40 years has been taking transfer payments from taxpayers from the rest of the country.

No sympathy here.
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haddanuff
Progressives think 'We' while cons think "Me"
02:19 PM on 04/26/2012
Your education should have been free.
03:43 PM on 04/26/2012
The difference between you and Quebec students is that they are NOT sheeps. They don't pay whatever other people tell them to pay. They don't sit at their keyboards whining about how cheap other people tuitions are. They went to the streets risking abuse and arrests fighting for every dime to keep education from eroding, not just for them for the students coming after them. They see that their society depends on an educated population to prosper, and keeping a segment of the population poor and uneducated would result in a net drain for everyone, including you. It's too bad that you can't see beyond transfer payments and tax burdens. You should have paid attention in class.
02:22 PM on 04/26/2012
the government and the ppl of Québec can expect the students to be peaceful and non-violent. throwing bricks on metro lines, setting off smoke bombs, vandalizing public property is not acceptable
11:35 AM on 04/26/2012
Who' d want to invest there and hire this bunch when they get out? Uni education is going to be worth not so much as we go forward. Arts grads better get used to serving Plumbers at the Starbucks.
11:12 AM on 04/26/2012
For all the Quebec students complaining about the tuition hikes, how about you just goto school in another province? Oh wait... That's right! Quebec still has some of the lowest tuition fees in the country. Look I'm all for oversight of where the money is going and all that stuff, no problem there. But why should I have to pay for your education when I'm still paying off my own student debts?
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Opus Fideo
Atheist. Social Democrat. Canadian.
11:46 AM on 04/26/2012
You lost me at the logic fail. Where is the logic behind saying that it is fine to hike Quebec tuition because other provinces charge more?

Education is the jurisdiction of the provinces, each one operates independently. There is no comparison. It's equivalent to saying that you shouldn't complain about the price of gas being $1.50/L because in Europe they pay 3 times that price. Totally irrelevant and disconnected.
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JackRackem
Just tryin' to have a good time.
01:24 PM on 04/26/2012
Quebec gets tax dollars (transfer payments) from other provinces, which is subsequently used to fund universities, which keeps your tuition lower than anywhere else.

No matter how fair or justifiable YOU think it is for YOU to have lower tuition fees than in other provinces, try convincing those taxpayers who are actually paying for your education.
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haddanuff
Progressives think 'We' while cons think "Me"
02:02 PM on 04/26/2012
In a country like Canada ... you shouldn't have a student debt.
11:58 PM on 04/26/2012
Sadly, many students do.
10:56 AM on 04/26/2012
These students truly have no idea how lucky they are. Thousands of people are dying in the streets of Syria everyday hoping to escape from under a military dictatorship. Quebec teenagers are pissy because they may actually have to PAY FOR SOMETHING THEY WANT!!! These students are an embarrassment to our traditions of a free and responsible society. Let boot these ungrateful leeches out of our confederation and see how they like dealing with the world without advantageous trade negotiations and constant subsidizing of their entire province from the rest of the productive provinces in this country!
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haddanuff
Progressives think 'We' while cons think "Me"
10:47 AM on 04/26/2012
Education in Canada should be an entitlement similar to many other first world nations.
Free or very low fees are charged to students depending on achievement levels, programs and ability to pay.
Canada's misguided attempt to follow the U.S. educational model, will ultimately lead us to similar problems. US student debt, (now about $900b), exclusion of those unable to afford it and the limited education of the work force.
The results of these failed ideas are now beginning to show in the US.
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Drama Llama
10:46 AM on 04/26/2012
A riot in Montreal?

I thought the Habs didn't make it to the playoffs.
10:45 AM on 04/26/2012
This increase is a mere pittance.

The professional agitators have taken over and the rest are simply playing follow-the-leaders.
10:42 AM on 04/26/2012
I'm in University in Alberta and wish I could get tuition as cheap as Quebec. It's unfair that in a province where we attend class and have a vibrant economy students are forced to pay significantly more then in Quebec where students are destroying a city.
10:50 AM on 04/26/2012
Then do something about it instead of complaining, neh? Ever wonder why you're paying more for tuition?
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Drama Llama
10:57 AM on 04/26/2012
Yes go burn some cop cars.. smash some windows and then end up looking like thugs destroying a beautiful city as opposed to students concerned about their future?