Quebec Student Protests: Young NDP MPs Left Sitting On Their Hands In Quebec Tuition Protests

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Young New Democrat MPs who likely once would have been among the thousands of Quebec students hoisting placards in opposition to higher tuition are instead being forced to sit on their hands. (CP)

OTTAWA -- Young New Democrat MPs who likely once would have been among the thousands of Quebec students hoisting placards in opposition to higher tuition are instead being forced to sit on their hands.

At least five Quebec NDP MPs were students in the province before being swept unexpectedly into federal office during last year's election, and several others were only a few years out of school.

But even as the 11-week-old feud between the provincial Liberal government and students gains international attention, the rookie MPs are learning that being Quebec's voice in Ottawa sometimes also means they need to shut up.

There's nothing to be gained from weighing in on a provincial matter that's out of their hands, they've been cautioned, so best not to say anything at all.

Especially because there is something to lose: support in the province that handed them their official Opposition status in the Commons.

"Hiding behind the jurisdictional issue over the student strikes is good politics because there are few benefits for the NDP and a number of risks,'' said Bruce Hicks, a political science professor at Concordia University in Montreal.

There has been speculation that the strike could become the catalyst for a provincial election, and Hicks said any support for the students benefits the Parti Quebecois.

That's bad for the federal NDP, because a PQ government in Quebec will use its resources to support the Bloc Quebecois at the federal level.

Which could end up sending those student NDP MPs right back to school after the next federal election.

Plus, being seen as supporting a protest movement that's led to violence and dozens of arrests is risky, Hicks said.

"The NDP being so silent on this question is obviously the result of the party leadership doing a risk-benefit analysis,'' Hicks said.

In an interview on CPAC earlier this week, New Democrat Leader Tom Mulcair stayed away from weighing in directly on the protest, saying it was up to the provincial government to discuss the choices its made on the cost of going to school.

"Let's hope there will be a settlement,'' he said.

"Violence is not the right way to do things,'' he said.

The Charest government wants to raise tuition by $1,625. Initially, the increase was to be rolled out over five years but in a bid to stop the strikes, the government said Friday they are willing to phase it in over seven.

Quebec student groups were meeting over the weekend to decide whether to take the offer.

Canada's youngest MP, Pierre-Luc Dusseault, did acknowledge that had things been different, it could have been him out on the streets in Quebec.

The 19-year-old said he believes in education being accessible, but wouldn't comment on what he thought about the cost of it in his home province. But he said he thinks the protests generally are an important symbol for democracy.

"I'm not for the violence, but I'm for people who have the right to say what they want,'' he said.

One Tory MP is hoping the NDP's condemnation of the violence will convince them to back his private member's bill that would make it a criminal offence for people to wear disguises during violent protests.

Blake Richards, an Alberta MP, said the New Democrats voted against his bill on second reading.

"I would hope that given these incidents they will rethink that,'' he said in an interview.

"They've seen the kind of destruction that's occurred in Montreal and they have a number of members that represent the city and I would certainly hope they would rethink and protect public safety and protect businesses.''

Richards' bill is expected to go before committee this week.

-- With files from Lina Dib.

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02:01 PM on 05/01/2012
This is a disappointing turn of events, to say the least. Education should be a top priority for any party that posits itself as favorable to economic equality and social justice. Deciding to remain tacet on such an issue as the Quebec student strike stinks of political calculations on the part of the NDP, as was justly pointed out in the article.
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Opus Fideo
Atheist. Social Democrat. Canadian.
11:21 PM on 05/01/2012
well what do you expect them to do? The only provincial party that can benefit from all tis anti-Charest protesting is the Parti Quebecois... the separatists... and who is their federal counterpart? The Bloc Quebecois, which is the NDPs chief opponent in the province of Quebec. and like the article points out, since education is a provincial matter, there is literally nothing the NDP can do. If they support the students, they will give fuel to the PQ and the BQ and sow their own demise.
01:25 AM on 05/02/2012
There's nothing stopping them from staying true to their party's values and at least voicing concern for the situation, or at the very least letting MPs who value the cause speak their minds freely.
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Tyler Austin
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01:31 PM on 04/30/2012
*One Tory MP is hoping the NDP's condemnation of the violence will convince them to back his private member's bill that would make it a criminal offence for people to wear disguises during violent protests.*

I'd vote for this provided the police have to take off their masks as well. Fair is fair, and I'm still a bit bitter over the G-20.
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
02:12 PM on 04/30/2012
and if they can wear helmets and obscure their identities by not wearing nametags or clearly visible identity numbers, why can't we?

I'm very much reminded of the police groups under Polish and Romanian communist totalitarianism - the ZOMOs and the Securitate respectively. They were raised separately from the rest of the population, picked for their violent or sociopathic tendencies, inculcated in only loyalty to the state and a hostility towards the general populace. Another layer of alienation was that many were "recruited" as orphans (including children of those murdered by the state). In crowd control situations, they were nameless and faceless.....the resemblance of Solidarity-era ZOMO squads doing infantry style attacks on unarmed crowds during last week's disturbances in Montreal was very disturbing to see, as is the attitude that the public should have no defences against them, whether masks or helmets or ??

To me, what's going on - including the American media barrage about "Mayhem in Montreal" - is the of the stage for wider anti-democratic measures by our governments, including the eventual (and historical-trends-wise inevitable) calling in of American security forces to put down any real uprising in Canada. They're already training our police to behave like this, just as they're involved in "political training" of our conservative political machines and politicians.
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spinnerator
05:00 AM on 05/01/2012
All police officers in this country are volunteers, most of the current generation of police officers in this country are University graduates or some University education.
They are paid to keep the peace, hence the helmets and shields. I've looked at pages of Google images and guess what, all the Police I see have there faces exposed AND their badge numbers on their helmets. NICE TRY.

What's disturbing to me is the blatant lies and anti gov't. propoganda you anarchist tools are trying to foist on the rest of us. You are NOT freedom fighters, you are NOT supported by mainstream Canadians and Canada is NOT a police state.
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Skookum1
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02:12 PM on 04/30/2012
The violence in Montreal looks more like police/state-instigated violence than it does actual violent tendencies on the part of the protestors, even though the rightwing=Quebecor media are pitching the notion that it's all the protestors' faults....even the smokebombs on the Metro are likely to be the work of police agitators and scapegoaters.....remember the FLQ? The organization no one took seriously until the RCMP illegally started doing mailbombs and arsons in their name?
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Skookum1
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02:30 PM on 04/30/2012
Moderators: Why did you not approve Part I first? Was the comparison of Soviet-era crowd suppression in Poland to what's going on in Montreal too much for you to allow?
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Skookum1
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02:33 PM on 04/30/2012
or was it my speculation that this is all a prelude to something much bigger and nastier what bothered you? I really DON'T get why some posts are disallowed/ignored....it can only mean that you have some agenda and even a list of do-not-say things kicking around to tell you what to do/ how to think. Or you're just a bunch of scared little bunnies......
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Mastiff
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01:21 PM on 04/30/2012
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt"

~ Mark Twain
10:50 AM on 04/30/2012
What does the NDP stand for? They force budgetary concessions on the Ontario Liberals. Then refuse to vote on the budget. Ensuring the budget pass, thanks to mass abstention.
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djelimon17
what's this thing for?
10:58 AM on 04/30/2012
This is bad why? They got their demands met.
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ProgressiveCDN
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11:16 AM on 04/30/2012
In truth, they only got part of their demands met.

Their lack of economic policy is glaringly obvious... tax the rich, ok. But then use that money to spend on welfare rather than paying down Ontario's mass debt would have been really dumb... So they abstained because McGuinty didn't put the new tax revenue towards a further ballooned public budget
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Tyler Austin
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01:30 PM on 04/30/2012
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Thats Ontario, this is Quebec and the article is refering to the Federal NDPers.
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piceaglauca
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10:45 AM on 04/30/2012
Good decision. Notice how trained and restrained the disclplined Conservatives are. Oh silly there are really no Quebec Conservatives.
10:27 AM on 04/30/2012
When it comes to issues concerning Quebec, politicians of all stripe make truly bizarre decisions.
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Watson Richardson
10:12 AM on 04/30/2012
LOL, the NDP has ZERO credibility!! Show some leadership, some backbone, oh wait, the NDP is nothing but a mouthpiece for David Suzuki and amercian actors.
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ProgressiveCDN
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11:18 AM on 04/30/2012
David Suzuki and American Actors?? lol

Lay off the SunTV, dude...
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Watson Richardson
11:59 AM on 04/30/2012
I am with Optik TV, they don't carry Sun TV. What I said is 100% accurate.
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
11:22 AM on 04/30/2012
The are nothing but a mouthpiece for Karl Rove and Dick Cheney and idolize a (bad) American actor named Ronald Reagan. And Harper is a Clint Eastwood (=NRA) wannabe. Your point IS?
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Marg Wood
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11:46 AM on 04/30/2012
Your getting them confused with Harpers Canadian republicans!
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Watson Richardson
12:00 PM on 04/30/2012
Hey fool, OBAMA has been prez for 4 years. Are you that clueless?
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10:11 AM on 04/30/2012
So which liberal Party are you going to support?
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
01:19 PM on 04/30/2012
American language/paradigm being used to try and confuse Canadian politics/contexts.....won't even call that a "nice" try, especially because you deliberately used small-liberal (NOT a bad word in Canada as opposed to the US) and capital-P Party.

I don't have to ask which American neoconservative party you support, it's obvious.
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Hounds
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09:59 AM on 04/30/2012
Warning NDP.... if you become like the Liberals and don't stand-up for what you believe, the same fate awaits you...
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ProgressiveCDN
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11:19 AM on 04/30/2012
Warning to the supporters of the NDP... In the unlikely event that the NDP actually forms a government, they WILL do just as the Liberals did and govern from the Centre... No Doubt About It! Just look at their provincial counterparts...
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Marg Wood
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11:57 AM on 04/30/2012
Ate you a fortune teller?
12:22 PM on 04/30/2012
Oh no, compromise! Being reasonable scares the semi-literate Reform party and their lemming followers.
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Capital Ottawa
09:24 AM on 04/30/2012
A missed opportunity for the NDP. It could have been an opportunity to talk about accessible education, about dropping tuition rates throughout Canada.
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
11:23 AM on 04/30/2012
Also about state violence being used instead of conciliation and moderation and compromise when dealing with citizens negatively affected by government policies.
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
02:25 PM on 04/30/2012
Part of the reason university and other post-secondary is free in Norway, and why their social programs don't starve people and force them into substandard and crowded conditions, is that their oil companies have to pay handsomely into national revenues......
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Capital Ottawa
03:04 PM on 04/30/2012
Canada reduced the corporate tax rate from 21% to 15%... the federal government continues to provide billions of dollars in tax breaks to oil and gas companies.

http://climateactionnetwork.ca/archive/e/fossil-tax-breaks/

Taxes pay for services, corporations should contribute their share.