Quebec Student Protests: Hardliners Emerge To Heckle Student Leaders

CP  |  Posted: 05/ 1/2012 6:18 pm Updated: 05/ 1/2012 10:23 pm

Quebec Student Protests
Protester wearing a Guy Fawkes mask in another nightime protest on Montreal city streets.

MONTREAL - Divisions in Quebec's protest movement erupted into public view Tuesday, with masked demonstrators disrupting a news conference held by the province's more moderate student groups.

The bizarre scene, featuring black-clad anonymous spectators heckling the student leaders, raised new questions about whether the Charest government can ever negotiate a satisfactory settlement with the various protest factions.

"This illustrates that the student movement is not monolithic," said Education Minister Line Beauchamp. "Frankly, it's getting a little hard to follow."

The two student groups holding the news conference were trying to release a series of proposals to the government, aimed at resolving a weeks-long dispute over tuition.

Even before their so-called "counter-offer" was made, it was already doomed. The seven-point plan included a proposal for a tuition freeze, something the Charest government has repeatedly called a non-starter. The rejection from Beauchamp was swift and adamant Tuesday.

But even that offer — the one deemed unacceptable by the government — did not go far enough, according to the small group that crashed the event.

The masked protesters repeatedly heckled the student leaders and at one point forced an interruption of the news conference.
"(Your) counter-offer: (It's) mud and crumbs," said one large banner held up by the news conference-crashers in the back of the room.

The third main student federation, the most hardline one — called the C.L.A.S.S.E. — will be tabling its own proposals later this week.

There's no evidence Tuesday's hecklers were formally affiliated with any official student group. However, one of the masked demonstrators said, without revealing his identity, that he was represented by the C.L.A.S.S.E.

There have been heated disputes at recent demonstration marches in Montreal, over how radical to get and over whether to allow a so-called "diversity" of protest tactics, like vandalism.

Window-smashers and other vandals have been booed, shoved aside and heckled by more peaceful demonstrators who believe the key to success for their cause is remaining calm and winning public sympathy — which they say is undermined by the association with vandalism.

The proposals released Tuesday by the two student federations call for:

—A committee to monitor management of universities

—A limit, to three per cent, of university expenses that are peripheral to education

—An analysis of arrangements between businesses and universities, when it comes to patents

—A two-year moratorium on university funding increases

—A five-year moratorium on construction of new campuses

—An estates-general, or roving consultations, on education

—A freeze on tuition at 2012 level

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Wonder Land
...Words Matter
12:56 PM on 05/04/2012
Off to the Gulags with them !!!!
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01:22 PM on 05/02/2012
On the other hand, I like when young people protest ( no, violence), cause they do not vote so,
at least this way they get involved in political life, sort of.
You can call me crazy if you wish.....
11:48 AM on 05/02/2012
An excellent read which pretty much sums it up by Rex Murphy.

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/04/28/rex-murphy-quebec-student-protests-are-nothing-but-a-parody/
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Capital Ottawa
09:35 AM on 05/02/2012
"This illustrates that the student movement is not monolithic," said Education Minister Line Beauchamp. "Frankly, it's getting a little hard to follow."

Yesterday I observed students protesting in Ottawa in front of Harper's office, they were peaceful, organized and their message was clear... there is nothing "difficult to follow" line. Students don't want a 75% tuition hike, very simple, they've been saying this for months.
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13champlain
It is all good....range rover all wood
07:05 AM on 05/02/2012
Young people looking for others to pay their way is universal theme. They deserve to be mocked.
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Jane48
08:02 AM on 05/02/2012
Ah! It is the Billionaires looking for others to pay their way that is the cause of it all. The corporations taking over the governments globally who are insidious in their demands--who care not a whit for any people except what they can farm them for profits.
08:44 AM on 05/02/2012
Yes, neither individuals nor corporations should be able to force others into exchanges - individuals should not be forced into exchanges against their will. Someone should not be forced to pay for another's education. Someone should not be forced into an exchange with a corporation. A sustainable society can not be built on force - it can only be built on cooperation, tolerance, and respect for the sovereignty of each individual.
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Darlie Brewster
HAOL is censored, the truth is not here.
06:27 AM on 05/02/2012
Well this is yet another in the long line of BS headlines made to provoke confusion.
04:52 AM on 05/02/2012
the dollars dont justify the protest --as more students come to appreciate the facts --

this effort will disintegrate and the last ones standing might be exposed as having ulterior motives with backers who may choose to remain anonymous .
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thewhipper13
Marxist, Feminist & all the other dirty words...
02:28 AM on 05/02/2012
In Australia, we have HECS. Your education is essentially free and then once you begin earning a certain amount your income is taxed to pay of the debt. As you earn more and more the amount you pay annually increases in correlation with that, until the debt is paid.
If you never earn over a certain amount then the debt is never required to be paid.

Conservatives hate the scheme, but everyone is entitled to an education and this enables both students to get that regardless of financial status and the government to recover the debt in a way that is not detrimental to the students future.
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Mastiff
Via ovicipitum dura est.
12:12 PM on 05/04/2012
Thanks for that perspective.

Does that apply to specific professions, like doctors and lawyers, or does it also include trades?
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thewhipper13
Marxist, Feminist & all the other dirty words...
01:40 AM on 05/07/2012
It includes a lot of trades although I do think that some of the more technical pursuits ie; Art Courses and Computers / IT subjects are not as equally funded. Although - this is often due to the running costs of the courses.

My sister lives in the US and is married to a North Carolinan - the first time he told us about college funds - it was one of the wildest concepts we'd heard of. 'You mean you basically have to squirrel away 10s of thousands of $$, or your child can't go to college?! I come from a working class family and my brother, sister and myself have degrees. There would have been no chance of that without HECS.
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Charles the Great
Canadian/Israeli Goy in Alert,Nunavut
11:50 PM on 05/01/2012
Teach them a lesson give them all a F. Most students do not even care.
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LilPuppy
Canadian conservative,still left of a democrat
11:23 PM on 05/01/2012
fine lower tution...I just don't want my tax dollars to pay for it , so without our taxes going up for it what is their solution??
04:24 AM on 05/02/2012
Stupid citizens.
dhodge
Atheist Libertarian, No god, No gov't.
06:19 AM on 05/02/2012
Your tax dollars already fund their public library's; they're just mad bc you aren't providing the initiative and will power for them also... The access to information is there for EVERYONE; it's 2012 for god's sakes... I have no sympathy for those just to apathetic to walk to the library and pick up a book... the good will hunting quote "Some day you'll wake up and realize you dropped a hundred grand on an education you could've got for a dollar seventy five in late fees at your local public library" is true; but you HAVE to provide your own initiative...
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Opus Fideo
Atheist. Social Democrat. Canadian.
11:10 PM on 05/01/2012
The Finns and the Swedes are looking at us and wondering why we even charge for education in the first place. On the one hand we say healthcare is free for everyone, but education isn't?
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ethrop
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11:16 PM on 05/01/2012
The Swedes and the Finns aren't looking at us. And if they are, they are wondering what the fuss is about.
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Ryan Devine
11:28 PM on 05/01/2012
Health Care is not really all that free either, it can be a bureaucratic nightmare getting the province to pay a medical bill.
08:49 AM on 05/02/2012
People confuse "Free" with the fact that you don't pay a doctor directly. We forget that paying the government enormous taxes, waiting for service, reduced incentives for innovation within the healthcare sector...are all costs too.
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Thalin Lea
10:48 PM on 05/01/2012
there are many economic interest behind this hiking fees and a lot of loses on every student strikes. I would not be surprised at all if the rich ones that really run this country by pulling the strings of our puppet-government , are playing the dirty card by deploying inside the students some corrosive cells to destroy the image of such authentic movement.
08:37 PM on 05/01/2012
This is bigger than frustration and opposition to tuition fee increase. People, student or not, are tired of being used and abused by the ruling parties all over the world. We are starting to realize that when united, the possibilities are limitless, whether Arab spring or Gandhi led non-violent resistance...
"Yes we can" disappointed us ... only thing left is -> "Together we rise"
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09:11 PM on 05/01/2012
Yes, they are really enjoying their victory in Egypt right now!
09:35 PM on 05/01/2012
Democracy is messy. And the path to it often messier.
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Creox
Life is too important to take seriously.
09:57 PM on 05/01/2012
Things aren't over in Egypt.
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piceaglauca
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09:28 PM on 05/01/2012
No problem but the government can weather the storm. Eventually these kids will get bored.
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08:27 PM on 05/01/2012
I have lots of sympathy for students-kids, but I think that is all you are going to get, take it before its too late. Everybody is broke, now.
Look at Ontario?!
09:35 PM on 05/01/2012
Rather not but thanks for the visual.
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ljkcan
I don't let geographical borders limit my thinking
12:07 AM on 05/02/2012
I am torn because my own kids got higher education bursaries from my employer. Still at the time they were paying $5,300 & $4,400 both going the same time my neice was paying $1,200 a year to attend University in Quebec.

I wish all kids could get the kind of break my own did but the deal Charest gave them is quite decent when you look at the rest of the country.
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Capital Ottawa
09:44 AM on 05/02/2012
Education could be more affordable or even free across the country... many European countries offer free post-secondary education, average tuition is $2500 CDN throughout Europe. I don't understand why Canada looks to the States with it's crumbling economy for a gauge. Free post-secondary education would cost $4 Billion annually... one F-35 fighter jet, $137 Million (life time cost).

Quebec provincial tax rate is 9.5% in alberta 0%, Quebecers are paying for their lower tuition rates through taxes, so we're not comparing "apples to apples".