NDP, Environmental Groups Rally Against Budget Bill

CBC  |  Posted: 05/06/2012 11:39 pm Updated: 05/08/2012 11:32 am


The NDP says it will no longer stand by and watch as the Conservatives "shut down" debate on its budget bill, as a coalition of environmental groups launches a national ad campaign to protest proposed changes to environmental laws in the bill.


In an interview airing on CBC Radio's The House on Saturday, NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair said the party is reaching "a breaking point" with such behaviour from the government, and is contemplating "legal" as well as "parliamentary" options.


"This is the 18th time that the Conservatives have invoked closure; it's unprecedented," Mulcair told host Evan Solomon.


Conservative MPs voted last week to limit debate on the 431-page budget implementation bill, leaving all MPs with less than a week to debate it at second reading stage before it heads to committee.


Conservative MPs justified the vote by saying there will be "more debate" on this bill than the Liberals ever had on any of their budget bills.


"We can't have a Parliament that's not open to the public that elected it," said Mulcair, adding that "as the Official Opposition, we're going to have to take some tough decisions in the coming weeks and months."


Environmental groups launch campaign


Also beginning on Monday, a coalition of environmental groups is launching a national ad campaign to protest what they see as the federal government's "war" against the environment.


Nearly a dozen environmental groups, including Greenpeace, the World Wildlife Fund, and the David Suzuki Foundation will take out newspaper ads to draw attention to proposed changes to environmental law contained in the government's latest budget implementation bill.


The Black Out, Speak Out campaign calls on Canadians to raise their voices against proposed changes to environmental law — changes environmental groups say will "weaken environmental rules and silence the voices of those who seek to defend them."


In an interview with CBC News on Sunday, executive director for Sierra Club Canada John Bennett said: "What we want is the environmental law changes out of the budget. They have no business being in the budget."


"If the government wants to change environmental law they should put forth an environmental bill, and they should have consultation hearings across the country. But sticking it in the budget is a coward's way of doing it," said Bennett.


While Environment Minister Peter Kent was not immediately available for an interview, Kent has said that the changes are simply about updating decade-old laws.


Speaking in the House of Commons last Thursday, Kent defended the budget implementation bill saying "the responsible resource development is an intelligent approach to environmental protection that goes hand in hand with the resource development that creates jobs and wealth for Canadians."


Kent under fire for comments


On Friday, Canadian charities demanded that Kent retract accusations that some charitable groups are "laundering" foreign funds in Canada.


Imagine Canada — an umbrella organization representing the charitable sector — wrote an open letter to the minister expressing "serious concern" over his repeated use of the word.


Mulcair told Solomon on Saturday he agreed that "Peter Kent should not only retract; he should apologize."


The coalition of environmental groups will be urging other organizations to join them in an online protest next month.


The environment groups plan to black out their websites on June 4, 2012, to protest what they see as the government's "effort to silence" environmental voices.


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sunnyokanagan
Increase compassion. Decrease suffering
08:29 PM on 05/09/2012
The Government-of-the-day stifling debate and even proroguing Parliament altogether is legal and legitimate acts of Government, right? So the objection is that Harper does it too often and to the partisan benefit of his Majority Government, disallowing the Opposition to publicly review and debate various Bills and Acts.

There is no Law or Act that prohibits Government from behaving in an unethical and unfair manner [or if there is, please point to citation].

It is up to and educated and aware Canadian Electorate to suss out liars and cheats and winnow them out of the candidates for Office. We failed. Did Harper trick us, or were we snoozing our way to the polls? No matter. We are stuck with him.

It appears that there is no legal or socially acceptable way to remove him or rein him back until October 2015. get used to it, friends.Whine or bellow or march or strike as you like, Harper has the "throne" and he will *never* willingly give it up.
09:00 PM on 05/07/2012
I begin with a "sigh"...People please take a deep breath and think upon what you post. To read and understand what the majority of people post here I feel that there are but only a few valid positions, politically and socially in this country and they are all equally polarizing. You are either a right-wing, pro-business, anti-democracy conservative or you are a left-wing, uber-socialist, pro individual rights over the rights of the masses liberalist. News flash, neither of these extreme positions is acceptable to the mass populace of this country. We will never have Nirvana. The utopian society of "Star Trek-Next Generation" will not happen in our lifetimes. As long as the accumulation of wealth and the desire for power over our fellow man drive our societal goals, we are screwed. We are also doomed to live in this imperfect system we call "democracy". Both the neo-cons and the radical socialists are guilty of falling prey to either the drive for wealth, the need for power over other people, or a combination therein. So bitching about the Harper government taking advantage of what a majority government in this country is allowed to do is foolhardy. Seems to me Jean Chretien, Brian Mulroney and Pierre Trudeau did the same thing. All Mulclair and company want is the opportunity to do the same thing to us that they accuse Harper of, only with a different spin. Change takes time, not rhetoric to happen.
09:20 AM on 05/08/2012
So your tactic is to stand for nothing? Just wait around and something will change, don't know what or when, but whatever.
11:29 AM on 05/08/2012
Actually a tactic without a strategy behind it rarely acheives its goal. I see a lot of tactical action and activity against the Harper government but no cohesive strategy. Even if it succeeded so what? The laws and charter allow the governing party to do exactly what people are railing agianst Harper about. So changing the party label or the people is just shuffling cards. The real problem lies with the ability for any government in Canada to do this. Change the rules and then you'll see real change. Oh but that will only happen by an act of parliament or a successful Supreme Court challenge to the Charter. I am not apathetic but I am not a cheerleader either. I honestly hope a party and group of non-partisan politicans will emerge who have the courage to enact the type of change I am talking about. Then we may have something, for everyone, not just those who share our views.
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canobserv
09:27 AM on 05/08/2012
sorry but apathy and cynicism are what got the country INTO this mess............sigh
02:06 PM on 05/07/2012
Annoying maple leaf phased out
in favor of $ $ $ on Canadian flag.
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Another Pesky Canadian
Talk - action = 0
01:52 PM on 05/07/2012
When a government shows only contempt for its people, it no longer represents those people.

Harper must go.
01:44 PM on 05/07/2012
You have to feel for the Conservative Party there are some people in this country that actually believe that Harpo and his crew have been bought and paid for by big business. I for one think that that is just wishful thinking even Big business wouldn't want this group.
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albertarick
These are questions for wise men with skinny arms
01:53 PM on 05/07/2012
Corpo-Capitalists don't want competent, thinking individuals as government puppets. Ideologues and religious zealots serve the purpose so much more effectively.
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sdgreen
01:20 PM on 05/07/2012
If the NDP had its way, nothing would be accomplished. But hey, that is the NDP way as they do not want change just big government and huge spending along with taxation. Seems to me that all the standards are in place and a more streamlined yet functional review process has been established.
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albertarick
These are questions for wise men with skinny arms
01:46 PM on 05/07/2012
If you can laud the wholesale destruction of democracy, the environment, and our long term economy as accomplishments, you are wearing some hard core rose colored glasses. How things seem to you is irrelevant, you are not informed enough to have an opinion, if you believe the new review process is functional.
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sdgreen
02:22 PM on 05/07/2012
You think a two year review is not enough along with a retune of 40 different agencies into a more streamline organization. I guess you like inefficiency.
02:40 PM on 05/07/2012
The NDP want the present bill broken down into smaller segments- thats because they do not have the attention span to digest the entire document as it is (plus they miss out on another 3 person national cause to champion) That pluse the fact they most likely cant totally grasp all those big words in one document.
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4evercanadian
Still my guitar gently weeps
02:52 PM on 05/07/2012
Then why not just lump all the legislation for the year into one, all-encompassing bill? Just debate it for a couple of weeks, ram it through using their majority, and then take the next three years off. I'm sure that would make you very happy, until the government changes and the shoes on the other foot.
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Spanky McFarlane
ILLEGITIMUS NON CARBORUNDUM.
01:09 PM on 05/07/2012
Here he goes again cutting off debate.
He should have been hauled before the Supreme Court for his prorogation tactics IMO. When is it legal to use an 'administrative law' to subvert our MP's right to peaceful assembly & Freedom of Association' as granted in our Charter & hand signed into Law by the actual Head of State?
Having her underling (the GG) suspend this Right without consult threatens the role of the Monarch within Canada.

A Supreme Court Ruling is still required as the prorogation law is still on the books & able to be used for an intent for which it was never designed.
02:46 PM on 05/07/2012
And maybe other prime ministers like Pearson and Trudeau could be charged as well- all postumously of course(thankfully)
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canobserv
09:32 AM on 05/08/2012
sure....if it makes THIS government take some responsibility for their own words.....transparancy?...acountability?.....all I have learned is this government is JUST AS BAD if not worse than any other before it......and use "the Liberals did it" as their choice of excuses......they are pathetic....incompetant....and quite possibly criminal........
12:09 PM on 05/07/2012
Mulcair is already getting tiresome. The budget debate has been the longest in 20 years. Democracy has been served. The NDP position is nothing more than hubris grandstanding.
12:17 PM on 05/07/2012
it hasn't been debated at all. I'm sure you don't even know everything that's in the 420 pages, but then again, you're probably one of those people who thinks the government is like our parents and they don't need to tell us everything they're doing. They know what's best, right?
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djelimon17
what's this thing for?
12:24 PM on 05/07/2012
Wouldn't the appropriate amount of time for debate be dependent on the size, scope, and complexity of the legislation rather than how much debate has been done before?
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Daniel Kilgallon
Calgary Heavy Oil
11:57 AM on 05/07/2012
What a laugh...

Best policies. Your ratings are simply based on perception and not reality.

Provinces that don't allow raw sewage to be dumped in bodies of water: Alberta
Provinces that do: the rest.

Provinces with open pit mining operations that are bigger than the oil sands: BC, Ontario, Quebec.

Provinces that require full reclamation of mining sites: Alberta
Provinces that don't: the rest.

On top of this I see the NDP saying that dutch disease is going to prevent manufacturing jobs in Ontario. They have yet to show a real correlation to this. In fact many are saying that jobs are returning to Ontario when Oil is above $100 because it's too expense to manufacture overseas at that point.

To boot, they forget natural gas is at all time lows, so maybe try switching to alternative fuels?

Well I guess even that's too dirty. You only want Hydro that has destroyed areas many times the size of the oil sands, wind which isn't economical enough to maintain manufacturing, and solar which isn't practical in Canada.
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albertarick
These are questions for wise men with skinny arms
01:51 PM on 05/07/2012
As to requiring reclaimation of mining sites, over 50,000 unreclaimed orphan wells and some pretty nasty, currently unrecoverable, tailings ponds make a mockery of the requirements. If you don't enforce the regulations there existance doesn't have much effect.
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Daniel Kilgallon
Calgary Heavy Oil
10:53 AM on 05/12/2012
Tailings ponds are reclaimable. U of A developed bacteria that can break down the elements into usable material for clean up.

Second, have you ever seen a tailings pond? I doubt it. The new ones with SAGD are the size of an olympic swimming pool.

Orphan wells are sometimes left because in the future new technologies will allow for further exploitation of the reservoirs reserves.
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Marg Wood
Peace
11:55 AM on 05/07/2012
We should have known when environmentalists were referred to as Radicals! We must defeat this dictator before it's to late and he destroys our Canada! Go Mulcair and the NDP!!!
04:49 PM on 05/07/2012
No radicals were masquerading as environmentalists.
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canobserv
09:34 AM on 05/08/2012
yeah.....sure David Suzuki is a "radical"....sheesh.....even my con lovin' elderly neighbor balked at that one......
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SeanMartin
Everything in moderation.
11:49 AM on 05/07/2012
If Harper wants to be like the Americans, why doesnt he just bloody well move there???
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Another Pesky Canadian
Talk - action = 0
01:49 PM on 05/07/2012
He probably will....just as soon as he's done selling Canada down the river.
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ProgressiveCDN
A Progressive Moderate
11:45 AM on 05/07/2012
These guys know they stole their government and they will never steal another one! They have to jam through as much radical oil-friendly legislation as they can before Canadians collectively kick their asses out of power!

"Conservative MPs justified the vote by saying there will be "more debate" on this bill than the Liberals ever had on any of their budget bills." -- THis is a bunch of bull! They're just mad because it was their neo-Con views that were dismissed by the Liberal governments while they actually hashed out some good progressive ideas with the NDP.
paintitblacker
shit happens life goes on
11:39 AM on 05/07/2012
this enviromental bill has no place in a budget, this is clearly the worst alleged government ever. And until the question of there legitimacy is answered,they have no real legal standing, they know this to be true,why else would they cut finding to Elections Canada.
11:35 AM on 05/07/2012
Just because something is LEGAL dosen't make it right.

The ruling Tories cut off all debate so the Plebs can't make their opposition known, even if theres no way they could vote it down... why is this... oh so that the views of the majority cannot be expressed publicly in a open forum.
What YEAR is this? 1870?

Democracy, even the debate, in Canada only takes palce for a month ever 4 years (assuming Parliment isen't porugated again) I don't liek ot use the word 'dictatorship' but when one person is able to manipulate the rules so that they have all power and control over the majority it kinda IS a dictatorship.

If this was in any country around the world we'd denounce it- if anyone out there is reading this PLEASE urge your goverment to comment on this abuse of power by the Canadain government.
04:58 PM on 05/07/2012
I believe it to be a forward thinking progressive piece of legislation. None partisan political pundits, yes even on the left have called the budget rather tame in fact slightly left of center.
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4evercanadian
Still my guitar gently weeps
05:16 PM on 05/07/2012
Are you talking about the budget? Or all this other baggage that is attached to it?
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canobserv
09:35 AM on 05/08/2012
wow...you actually believin' what yer writtin' there??
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The Canadian
Stop Harper
11:32 AM on 05/07/2012
Harper and his cronies are the single worst group of politicians to ever get elected in Canadian history.

Now, for those of you who might disagree with that statement, I will emphasize that I have always justified my opposition to Harper not just because of his policies, which are bad, but nothing too different than anything previous Conservative governments have done, but because Harper has a basic disrespect of democracy. That is what makes him dangerous.

I hope Canadians will rise up and fight tooth and nail against Harper and his Conservative thugs. If Harper doesn't want a dialog or debate in Parliament, an institution he obviously hates, then let's hope he gets it in the streets.