F-35 Complaint: Speaker Andrew Sheer Rejects Bob Rae's Question Of Privilege

CP  |  By Posted: 05/07/2012 4:32 pm Updated: 05/09/2012 5:28 pm

OTTAWA - The Speaker of the House of Commons has rejected a complaint that government ministers misled Parliament on the costs of the F-35 fighter-jet program.

Interim Liberal Leader Bob Rae had argued a month ago that ministers didn't give accurate information to MPs about the true price tag for the jets.

The auditor general said in a report last month that Parliament didn't get the full picture on the costs of the jets, which are closer to $25 billion rather than the $16 billion the Tories publicized.

Michael Ferguson said members of cabinet would have known about those higher costs.

The parliamentary budget officer has also said he believes the government kept two sets of books on the cost of the fighter jets.

Speaker Andrew Scheer says there isn't enough evidence that the ministers intentionally misled the Commons, and so rejected Rae's question of privilege.

But Scheer noted that a the Commons public accounts committee is studying the issue of the costs and could turn up new evidence.

"I remind the House that a determination that breach or privilege is not (evident) at this time in no way interferes with the right of any honourable member to raise a new question of privilege should the committee arrive at findings that shed new light on this matter, or should other pertinent information become available," Scheer said.

Scheer had also rejected Rae's contention that Parliament had been misled when ministers said they agreed with Ferguson's findings, but the departments said they didn't agree with certain conclusions in the report.

Again, the Speaker said there was a high bar set for findings of breach of privilege, and that includes proving that the Commons was intentionally given erroneous information.

Liberal House Leader Marc Garneau said the ruling sets a precedent that allows ministers to give misleading information in the Commons.

"I think it's setting a precedent, it's strengthening a precedent, yes, and it's unfortunate because it kind of helps everybody wash their hands on that side of the House and walk away from it," Garneau said.

"But the reality is that the government on this whole business of the F-35 has contradicted itself, has been at variance with civil servants and with generals. ... So there is no accountability in the end and that's terribly disappointing."

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12:52 PM on 05/08/2012
The onky good thing is in three years we can finally charge these people with the crimes they have committed and will commit over the next three years.

And after the example set by Mr Mulroney, lying to Canadians, suing Canadians, then not paying back Canadians once it was found he perjured himself. It is time to set an example and send these politicians to jial. No more fines, no more probations. Do the crime do the time, even if you were Prime Minister.

And if Stevie does not end up in jail then the next party in charge is just as corrupt as Stevie.
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Awetitu
My Micro-Bio is empty? O noes!
12:02 PM on 05/08/2012
This reminds me of "The Producers" with the books that say "Show to the Police" and "Don't Show to the Police"...
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canobserv
09:20 AM on 05/08/2012
well what a shock......
09:03 AM on 05/08/2012
So now all we are left with is this new watchdog, created by the Tories, to watch themselves.

The fiasco of the F-35's never ends and the CONS are to blame for all of it.
08:39 AM on 05/08/2012
C'mon folks how can we even pretend to be surprised by this. One of the minions of the current corrupter in chief would not even dream of questioning or offending his god.
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BUTCHER99
08:14 AM on 05/08/2012
so the only person who thinks they did not mislead the house is the speaker?
what happened to non-partisan
08:05 AM on 05/08/2012
The Speaker should hang his head in shame. Some type of reviews needs to be done on this new run over everyone Government style Democracy is getting mudered here.
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Counterglow
Werner Heisenberg may have been right.
07:59 AM on 05/08/2012
There's evidence that exposure to rain degrades the stealth capabilities of both the F-22 and F-35. More reason to worry that the F-35 is a freakin' trailer queen with the durability of a mayfly and the maximum flight time of an overweight chicken.
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maxmtl
Carpe Diem
06:37 AM on 05/08/2012
The Canadian democracy is officially pronounced dead.
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1846
Deir Yassin Survivor
12:45 AM on 05/08/2012
It must be very difficult to mislead parliment. This government did however mislead the Canadian people with misinformation, with held information, and in the case of the Minister of Defence lies. (Unless you believe 10 Billions dollars is an accounting glitch in the DND)
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stanschurman
10:48 PM on 05/07/2012
The only thing missing is the Speaker not sitting on Harper's knee like most ventriloquist dummies.
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Counterglow
Werner Heisenberg may have been right.
08:00 AM on 05/08/2012
The Speaker holds the toilet paper and towels in the Tories' men's room, and lives on tips.
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Thalin Lea
10:41 PM on 05/07/2012
I think my polling station got kidnapped by these bunch of worthless F-35 toys .
10:22 PM on 05/07/2012
They didn't Misleed anyone, they just lied their little Butts off.
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itsmedia
10:03 PM on 05/07/2012
so the 30 something conservative speaker who was appointed by Harper says nothings wrong .Our democracy is a joke ! welome to facist Canada
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Opus Fideo
Atheist. Social Democrat. Canadian.
08:11 PM on 05/07/2012
Summer hasn't arrived yet, there's still time for a Maple Spring!