Ex-Quebec MPs Blast Motion To Study When Life Begins

CBC  |  Posted: Updated: 05/16/2012 4:39 pm


Four former Quebec MPs are joining forces to fight a private member's motion calling for further study on when human life begins.


The ex-MPs are opposed to motion 312, proposed last month by Conservative MP Stephen Woodworth, who wants a parliamentary committee to study the fetus's legal status.


Former Bloc Québécois MPs Nicole Demers and Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral are working with Alexandra Mendes and Lisa Zarac – two ex-Liberal MPs – to denounce Woodworth's proposal.


"What right does Stephen Woodworth have to flout our parliamentary procedures to reopen debate on a woman's most fundamental right to choose what happens to her body?" asked Mendes, who represented Brossard-La Prairie.


Woodworth introduced his motion in late April on the grounds that current Canadian law on human life is based on a centuries-old definition imported from Britain.


When he announced the motion, Woodworth had argued he was simply interested in updating the law to agree with 21st-century medicine. He later conceded the motion could allow Canadians "to have an honest discussion about the abortion question."


But the four ex-MPs from Quebec say the motion is a major step backwards for Canada.


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  • Liberal Party

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cwebster
predominantly exasperated
02:28 AM on 05/17/2012
Hmmm...the people on this thread who object to abortion all seem to be Catholic.
Trying to force their religious ideas on the rest of us.
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10:55 PM on 05/15/2012
And when think CONservatives can't go any lower, they prove you wrong YET AGAIN.

Conservatives are diseased, mentally, emotionally, psychologically and of course morally.
05:12 PM on 05/15/2012
this is Canada. Women do not have to cover their bodies with black clothing their everyday clothes. They don't have to cover their faces or walk behind men. They can walk with their breasts bare if they want. and they are certainly free to choose what else they do with their bodies. Men who disagree feel free to get vasectomies to stop impregnating women but let women decide whether they want to carry a fertilized egg to term or not. After all at least 25% of fertilized eggs abort naturally and nobody - not even the woman knows she was pregnant. 25,000 children die of hunger each and every day. Millions of women are dead or permanently damaged by having to go through with pregnancies and childbirth. Let the religulous of all sorts keep their religulous beliefs to themselves and get on with the job of saving the children who die every day of hunger and disease. Or are abused because their children are abused. Or those children who have no family to care for them. Lots of children for the religulous to focus on. Leave zygots for women to decide on whether to abort them or allow the pregnancy to carry through to term
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Opygollopy
The more I talk to people, the more I love my dogs
07:04 PM on 05/14/2012
If Mr. Woodward does not want an abortion he should not have one. Other than that, please realize that women are sentient, wise people, more so than men and we can make our own decisions with our doctors rationally without the government interfering.

We are capable of realizing life is precious and we are capable of recognizing when our lives are in danger carrying a child full term. That is our decision, not the government's or any church.

I will fight this to my last breath and I am no longer within child bearing years.

Women have had to fight tooth and nail for our rights on every issue and we still have a long way to go to be deemed equal to men in the workplace, education and pay scale. This is just a foolish attempt to put us back to the 1950's where we had no rights except in the kitchen.

No more, Women unite. This just isn't about abortion, it is putting us back to a half human status.
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cwebster
predominantly exasperated
08:28 PM on 05/14/2012
So true. Who wants to be reduced to the status of chattel?
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smduib
truth is not relative
12:58 PM on 05/14/2012
Ignorance is not bliss. If abortion is truly justified, what is the government afraid that science will reveal if the definition of life is reviewed? Perhaps it doesn't want to acknowledge that actual human lives are being snuffed out at a rate of 1 per 3 live births in Canada. Laws are meant to protect others from harm, and abortion does the utmost harm. It stops being about woman's health, when another human life is affected.
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MissHtoA
Bad Religion is my gospel.
02:14 PM on 05/14/2012
Fund the research privately, then. Don't ask us to foot the bill for research that is of no benefit to anyone without some sort of religious agenda. SECULAR and proud. Get used to it, or move to Arizona.
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smduib
truth is not relative
02:41 PM on 05/14/2012
This isn't a religious issue, it's a human rights issue. Do you feel murder laws are religiously motivated as well? I reiterate what I said in my comment, laws are meant to protect those from harm. I don't suppose it's only religious people who believe that. There actually are many agnostics & athiests who are pro life because they recognize the reality of what abortion really is.
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MissHtoA
Bad Religion is my gospel.
02:51 PM on 05/14/2012
"The causes of infant mortality are “strongly correlated to those structural factors, like economic development, general living conditions, social wellbeing, and the quality of the environment, that affect the health of entire populations,” according to a 2003 article in the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health"

To bring forth your "1 in 3 live births" comment and suggest it has ANYTHING to do with this discussion, particularly the bogus when does life begin "argument" is dishonest at best. Do you think we're stu pid? Your 1 in 3 is generally a natural death, after birth. Key word, BIRTH as in, outside of the womb and includes babies less than 1 year.
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smduib
truth is not relative
03:15 PM on 05/14/2012
Maybe I wasn't clear. There is 1 abortion for every 3 live births in Canada.
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NoPartyRule12
Conquest is not in our principles. It is inconsist
10:02 AM on 05/14/2012
As a US citizen I have to say...don't let conservative extremism take over your country. Our country has been taken over by zealots. This is a private matter, as so many issues are that the politicians wish to legislate these days. Whatever someone believes is their business and what decisions that they have to make should be their business as well. Good luck to the women of Canada
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cwebster
predominantly exasperated
10:46 AM on 05/14/2012
Thank you for your kind wishes.
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joncie
11:50 AM on 05/14/2012
Feeling the love up in here. I'm with NoPartyRule12. Best of luck to the women of Canada.
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ochaye
09:29 AM on 05/14/2012
Life begins when the harper government ceases to be.
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cwebster
predominantly exasperated
10:43 AM on 05/14/2012
Amen. May it be as soon as possible.
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cinderelladressmaker
09:55 PM on 05/14/2012
F & F Love your way of thinking!
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freeSpeakr
I stand on the shoulders of giants
08:38 AM on 05/14/2012
It's never an easy decision but sometimes it's the right one.
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gsmp
What the ????
05:42 AM on 05/14/2012
So kochandklan are branching out? Gobblingup the US, state by state, isn't good enough. Now they're not only exporting jobs, they're gonna outsource theology.
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cwebster
predominantly exasperated
10:44 AM on 05/14/2012
I'd like to tell them where to shove their theology.
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cwebster
predominantly exasperated
02:12 AM on 05/14/2012
Glad they are speaking out against this nonsense. There is no debate. This issue has been settled and we women do not want to revisit it.
Her body: her life and health on the line: Her CHOICE!
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11:06 PM on 05/13/2012
Showing a plastic baby is not going to stop abortions.
Let's be honest here...the world CANNOT support the "humans" they have now....preventing births (for whatever reason) is helping. I know that is not what religious people want to hear, but nothing satisfies these people.
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smduib
truth is not relative
01:31 PM on 05/14/2012
FreedomLady10, the fact is that Canada's birth rate is below replacement value. We are not having enough children to sustain our economy or our future, instead having to rely solely on immigration. We have seen the consequences of this in Greece, where there simply are not enough people in the work force to support the social system. The idea that the planet is overpopulated is a myth. Even in countries with high poverty and high birth rates, studies reveal that the population is not a contributing factor to poverty. Humans are the greastest resource on our planet.
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cinderelladressmaker
04:08 PM on 05/14/2012
'The idea that the planet is overpopulated is a myth.'
Oh my word, that is the most ludicrous statement I have read in a long time!!!
I think you need to put down the bible and read some current material. It is called 'science'. I think you may be one of about 20 people on this planet that doesn't know that it is overpopulated!
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cinderelladressmaker
04:45 PM on 05/14/2012
'Humans are the greatest resource on this planet.'
Well they were until they started ruining it! And at this point, there may be no turning back!
You know we are in the year 2012 don't you?
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jfjoubert
Le pire n'est pas toujours certain.
10:18 PM on 05/13/2012
If there wasn't a good reason for the left to unite in Canada, there is one now. The Conservatives are completely taking advantage of the situation by inching reforms that are unpalatable to(I imagine) a majority of Canadians. That the Bloc is taking the lead in this, as well as other ex-MPs from Quebec, says a lot about the very real problems of the left in Canada outside of Quebec. Is this shift to the right the overall result of Quebec's declining political influence in Canada?
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canobserv
08:48 AM on 05/14/2012
I am hearing a lot of my Lib friends who are taking a look at Mulcair......I think there will be some serious strategic voting going on next election....assuming the Reformers don't try to steal it again
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trying2help
mom doc
09:38 PM on 05/13/2012
Pleae go home already protesters. We did this long ago and will- do it again. If you do not want an abortion - do NOT have one.
Please respect the reproductive rights of the Canadian women who have done this years before- We will organize and defeat any govt trying to limit our freedoms.
So please- go home and care for yourselves- as the rest of us do!
compro01
Conservatism : Policy-based evidence making
10:59 AM on 05/14/2012
The adults are getting a paid day off and the children are getting a free day off from school to protest. Why would they go home?
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agness nutter
What fresh hell is this?
09:14 PM on 05/13/2012
I don't think I really fully appreciated Dr. Henry Morgentaler until a few years ago. He is a very brave man.
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jfjoubert
Le pire n'est pas toujours certain.
10:10 PM on 05/13/2012
Absolutely!
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cinderelladressmaker
10:50 PM on 05/13/2012
Met him right after his Supreme Court decision with my feet in stirrups.
Incredible man, had on obvious glow about him. Will never forget that moment!
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agness nutter
What fresh hell is this?
12:18 AM on 05/14/2012
He certainly changed that experience for Canadians, eh? He deserves the Order of Canada.