Ontario University Professors Worried About Class Sizes, Falling Quality; Less So About Tuition Costs

CP  |  By Posted: 05/13/2012 3:00 pm Updated: 05/15/2012 12:13 pm

TORONTO - Ontario's professors are concerned about increased class sizes and the declining quality of post-secondary education, but not so much about heavy student debt-loads, a new survey suggests.

The poll, by the group that speaks for university faculty and which comes against a backdrop of collective bargaining, indicates an increase in enrolment coupled with budget cuts has compromised their ability to engage directly with students and has increased their workloads.

"We've had concerns about workload pressures, the lack of hiring (and) replacing people," said Constance Adamson, president of the Ontario Confederation of University Faculty Associations.

"This is all adding up to an incredible strain on the system with more and more students coming through our doors."

According to the survey being released this week, 42 per cent said they believed the quality of undergraduate education at their school had declined over the past five years, while 28 per cent thought it had improved. There was a much lower level of concern about the quality of graduate education.

Almost two-thirds responded that their class sizes — which the association considers a proxy for quality — had increased over the past five years.

The concerns over quality of education and the student experience did not appear to extend to the crushing debt load many students say they face.

Asked about their priorities for a hypothetical windfall of $400 million in provincial funding, respondents overwhelmingly rated putting the money into retaining and hiring new full-time faculty.

A mere six per cent said a tuition freeze, rollback or 30 per cent tuition grant would be their No. 1 priority for spending the extra cash.

"It was probably a pretty realistic notion that the tuition argument has been lost," Adamson said, adding faculty have advocated for lower tuition for years.

"I get the sense that they've just sort of given up."

Other survey results suggest 83 per cent of respondents reported budget cuts in their department. Most also said universities had increased their use of part-time faculty.

Still, while 43 per cent of those asked said they don't have the resources to provide a quality education to their students, 42 per cent said they did.

"We're coping, but we can't keep going just coping," Adamson said.

The online survey of more than 2,000 professors and academic librarians was done between March 21 and April 16. A margin of error was not provided.

Faculty at Carleton, Nipissing, Brescia and York are among 11 schools in the middle of collective bargaining, which comes at a time when the provincial government has been leaning on the broader public sector to accept wage freezes and schools are reluctant to commit to more hiring.

"It's pretty hard bargaining," Adamson said.

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01:25 AM on 05/15/2012
Professors should care more about teaching, that's their job. There is a point when too many students become a burden. When bad students take time away from good students everyone suffers in the end.

I wouldn't mind going a 100k in debt paying for the full costs of tuition if my prospect of getting a job I can enjoy is secure. Paying a fraction of that cost like we do now with the current over-saturation of students ends up being a major burden when you have people working in factories paying off student debt.
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Doctor Nick
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04:42 PM on 05/14/2012
Most university professors care about their teaching experience. That means that they would prefer to teach (a)only the best and brightest students and (b)smaller classes where there is interaction, as opposed to giant lectures where they only get to listen to themselves talk (actual work is pretty similar in the two formats since for giant classes almost all the grading is done by the TAs).

Some may have concerns about accessibility and equality, particularly in the social sciences and humanities where they tend to be very left-leaning, but otherwise they are no more or less concerned about tuition than anyone else, and why should they be? It has no impact on them. Given the choice between equality and quality, many professors would choose quality, but what do you expect? I'm sure people in most professions feel the same way - they would prefer to interact with people who are smart and good at what they do (in this case, good students).
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05:02 AM on 05/14/2012
what room is that and where? One tiny little board, terrible lighting control, can't see anything and the sunlight creating high contrast.

I was in a new building recently and I was amazed at how badly it was built. There's never time to do it right, only time to suffer through for years
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Glass Cannon
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08:13 PM on 05/13/2012
Tenured professors are civil servants that essentially can't be fired, so no. I doubt they think about it much. However those positions are like hens teeth these days.

In the institutions I attended almost all instructors are not professors, not even salaried people. Rather they are sessional instructors with few or no benefits and little job security. They are paid based on the number of courses they teach per term. Something like $7500 per course and terms being 16 weeks. And at the end of each term they may or may not be rehired for the next.

These people probably do care about whether students can get into classes and that lots of classes are offered. If only because it guarantees that they will have courses and students to teach. I'm sure they care about the students and what they are teaching, but it is also a job.
07:48 PM on 05/13/2012
If they are not, they should be. Constantly rising costs may well lead to the creation of ways in which students can earn academic credit without attending universities (e.g., by taking examinations which test their competence). Such a project is entirely feasible, would not cost any money, and would free the students from the cost of paying any tuition fees, other than the ones the student voluntarily paid to prepare herself for the examination (for tutors, extra help, etc.).
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see-ellen2001
06:24 PM on 05/13/2012
Those nasty teachers...concerned that students are not getting a good education. The nerve!
05:24 PM on 05/13/2012
Post-secondary education is a business. They accept as many students as they possibly can while charging them as much as they can get away with.
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04:33 PM on 05/14/2012
Except in Canada universities are not run for profit, and the government has to make up the difference between tuition payments and the actual costs of a college education for each student. Not many businesses are based on losing money that is made up by government subsidies. Taxpayers, not students, are the main paying customers of Ontario's universities.
Having said that, universities and university faculty have a trade-off - with more students they can hire more faculty, or they can pay current faculty more but have them teach bigger classes.
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patrickwwalker
04:12 PM on 05/13/2012
No surprise they're not concerned about their debt. That debt pays their salaries.