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Lorenzo Sirois' Shriners Donation Conservative Party Bound?

Posted: 05/14/2012 6:04 pm Updated: 05/15/2012 10:30 am

An elderly Quebec man was shocked to find out he was expected to send his Shriners donation to the Conservative Party of Canada.

Lorenzo Sirois, who lives in Trois-Rivieres, Quebec, told The Huffington Post Canada he was contacted by the Shriners a few weeks ago asking if he would donate to the Karnak Shrine Circus which is rolling into his hometown later this August.

Sirois gladly pledged $20 and days later received a funding package. As he prepared to write his cheque, he noticed the return envelope was addressed to the Conservative Party of Canada, 1235 Bay Street in Toronto.

Sirois thought something smelled fishy.

“The donation, it was going — I’m not sure how they would have fixed this — but it was going to the Conservatives in Toronto. That’s what I couldn’t explain,” he said in French.

His NDP MP, Robert Aubin, couldn’t explain it either and with the robocall scandal looming in the background, he worried this might be a Conservative plot to dupe constituents.

“Nothing seems to stop the Conservatives when it comes to filling their coffers, but I never thought they would have gone so far as to use the cause of sick children,” Aubin said in the House Monday.

He questioned the close ties the telecommunications firmed hired by Shriners had with Conservative friendly Responsive Marketing Group (RMG), saying there were a lot of “coincidences.”

The Conservative government, however, dismissed the incident. Tory MP Pierre Poilievre said he had no details about the alleged incident but “clearly, there had been administrative errors in this case.”

Sirois, for his part, is unsure the Conservatives were trying to dupe him.

“I don’t know,” Sirois answered. “So many things happen nowadays that I felt I couldn’t rely on this at all.”

“Let’s just say that I started asking myself some questions when I saw that. Why was the money going directly – why was the envelope going directly to the Conservative Party? That was the question I asked myself and that’s why I did not make my donation right away,” he elaborated.

Sirois waited until the Shriners wrote him another letter asking where his donation was and, this time with the right envelope in the package, he sent his cheque and a letter explaining what had happened.

Lise Dero from the Karnak Shriners in Montreal said the company hired iMarketing Solutions, formerly known as Xentel, to help with its fundraising drive.

She said the situation with Sirois was the first she’d heard of an error linked to the Conservative Party.

iMarketing Solutions’ sister branch RMG does well-publicized telemarketing work for the Tories, including work during the last federal election campaign.

iMarketing Solutions' public relations director Leonard Wolstenholme said both companies share the same letter shop where they assemble bulk mailings and it was clearly a simple clerical error.

“It’s obviously a mistake,” he said. “I mean the wrong material was assembled in that package, for some reason, I have no idea why.”

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An elderly Quebec man was shocked to find out he was expected to send his Shriners donation to the Conservative Party of Canada. Lorenzo Sirois, who lives in Trois-Rivieres, Quebec, told The Huffi...
An elderly Quebec man was shocked to find out he was expected to send his Shriners donation to the Conservative Party of Canada. Lorenzo Sirois, who lives in Trois-Rivieres, Quebec, told The Huffi...
 
 
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cheena1
myhuffpost
06:00 PM on 05/17/2012
"Marketing Solutions' pr director Leonard Wolstenholme said it was clearly a simple clerical error."
Why does this sound so familiar?? O - wait - I know! Cuz it sounds like most of the BS that comes out of the Cons bunker when they're caught in another scummy situation!!

Fits well with: Not Me! I didn't do it! It was the NDP! It was the Libs! It's a smear campaign! They don't like that we won! Let me make this perfectly CLEAR! We have a CLEAR mandate!
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
09:25 AM on 05/15/2012
The current government is a clerical error, and an administrative mistake.
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DirkNeptune
I love raspberry pie, damn it.
09:14 AM on 05/15/2012
The non-decision I made to not donate to the Shriners proved to be one of the soundest decisions I wasn't aware that I was making.
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WeeTadBit
09:13 AM on 05/15/2012
"The Conservative government, however, dismissed the incident."

Well folks, the above line sums things up quite nicely. The conservatives simply "dismiss," one issue after another. Once it's dismissed, it is no longer subject to scrutiny by the electorate, and another dent is made in the erosion of our democracy.
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darksideofthespoon
what we think we become
12:02 PM on 05/15/2012
Yeah, no kidding.

"Oh, okay. I totally believe you. Who do I make my cheque out to, again??"
05:53 AM on 05/15/2012
Those CONS....what a sick bunch.
Supporters, what say you?
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canobserv
12:15 PM on 05/15/2012
administrative errors ....yup yup...you betcha..a lot of them lately.....un huh
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gravescanada
05:27 AM on 05/15/2012
When you get a check, all you have to do is put For deposit only on the back, no signature and the checks get processed by a computer. No one looks at the information on the check. The banks process millions of checks. So this check, if he had sent it, would have gone right through the system and into the coffers of the Conservative Party. I just wish the man had kept the originals and sent copies with his check to see who processed it.
05:57 AM on 05/15/2012
Totally agree. The Banks have cut back on staff since the 80's and the kind of people power required to catch malfeasance does not exist any more. They do continue, however, to ride the back of 'trust' and competence that was created in the earlier days as checks written can contain huge errors and still pass through the system.
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freeSpeakr
I stand on the shoulders of giants
10:45 AM on 05/15/2012
Abuse of power by the straussian Harper and his cadres is not surprising. ONe only need google "Harper Bush Tyee" to gain insights into Mr Harper's personal views on humanity and his place in it.

It is the nature of priveliged position that it develops its own political justification and often the economic and social doctrine that serves it best. John Kenneth Galbraith, 1996
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fromdnorth
OK I checked my micro-bio (didn't know I had one
03:21 AM on 05/15/2012
What have the agents of the Conservatives not screwed up. Agents like Baird, Flararty, Clements, McKay, Toewes et al - accidentally deliberately...
11:11 PM on 05/14/2012
Clearly just an envelope-stuffing error. The CPC would be unable to cash a cheque made out to the Shriners, it would be of no use to them. The mailing company screwed up.
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4evercanadian
Still my guitar gently weeps
11:48 PM on 05/14/2012
This is the company looking after the CIMS database for the CPC. If they screwed this up, what else have they scewed up?
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fromdnorth
OK I checked my micro-bio (didn't know I had one
03:28 AM on 05/15/2012
This is a serious matter and the PM should have a hearing on it, chaired by Conrad Black who is currently under-employed and needs some profile...
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Taylor Jay
I don't align myself with any political party.
12:45 AM on 05/15/2012
Conservatives own a couple cheque cashing outlets they can claim this money
10:55 PM on 05/14/2012
These are the old white guys in the clown cars right? Never heard of the Shriners though.
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fromdnorth
OK I checked my micro-bio (didn't know I had one
03:23 AM on 05/15/2012
Bless your sacred little heart...
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LGC1953
Be careful what you ask for, you might get it
07:47 AM on 05/15/2012
Been living in a vacuum have you?
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canobserv
12:20 PM on 05/15/2012
they need a sarcasm button here....
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MJinCanada
Safe from zombies until my 2nd cup of coffee
10:37 PM on 05/14/2012
If it was Xentel that explains pretty much everything. Do NOT make any donations through anyone who has anything to do with Xentel. They keep 80% or so of ALL donations as "administration fees" and the charity gets the crumbs. Nobody with any sense wants to work for them, because the telemarketing technique is pressure - guilt - pressure - pressure - annoy - repeat -- until nice little old ladies tell them to eff off and die.
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4evercanadian
Still my guitar gently weeps
11:07 PM on 05/14/2012
I'll repost what I posted below. Xentel has now changed their name to iMarketing Solutions Group, probably because of the fallout from their ties with the CPC election campaign. They own Responsive Marketing Group (RMG) which has been tied to that campaign, particularly in Guelph. One of the board members of RMG is Stewart Braddick who has some serious connections into the CPC:

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1137730--marketing-strategist-stewart-braddick-plays-role-in-conservative-party-s-electoral-success

I believe that I also read somewhere that Xentel (iMarketing) are the administrators of the CIMS database.
11:25 PM on 05/14/2012
So what some of are thinking is more than likely correct
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MJinCanada
Safe from zombies until my 2nd cup of coffee
11:33 AM on 05/15/2012
It figures. The plot thickens. Thanks!
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Opus Fideo
Atheist. Social Democrat. Canadian.
09:28 PM on 05/14/2012
a mistake??? It's conservative corruption... its been going on in Ottawa for years under the reign of Harper.
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Mad Hatter 1
08:41 PM on 05/14/2012
Money scams, Robo Calls all in a days work, after all they run the government.
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Opus Fideo
Atheist. Social Democrat. Canadian.
09:29 PM on 05/14/2012
The Conservative motto is: "Corrupta, potentia, et fraudis"
07:56 PM on 05/14/2012
Both the Order of the Shrine and it's parent orginization are stridently non-political. If they say this was an accident I believe them. I also believe the Conservatives when they claim that this was just an error. I don't doubt they use low tricks, but trying to cheat the Shriners? Thats' to dumb to even contemplate, let alone how greasy it'd be. Forget every other scandal, they might as well just disband their party at that point.

The problem now is sorting out the money that was supposed to be sent to the Shriners fund and was sent to the Conservative fund by Shriners who didn't see the address on the envelopes.
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Opus Fideo
Atheist. Social Democrat. Canadian.
09:30 PM on 05/14/2012
they defauded voters in the last election. that is way too dumb to even contemplate yet they did it. I would not be surprised at all about this shriner's thing.
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MJinCanada
Safe from zombies until my 2nd cup of coffee
10:38 PM on 05/14/2012
The Shriners should be avoiding iMarketing Solutions. They lose most of the money raised to the companies "administration costs."
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FredSanders
I Have An F- Rating From The NRA
07:53 PM on 05/14/2012
"Tory MP Pierre Poilievre said he had no details about the alleged incident but “clearly, there had been administrative errors in this case.”
And the return envelope, given to the Shriners by the marketing firm, addressed to the Con Party was a.......mistake?
Funny how those "mistakes" are piling up.
And just a coincidence that vulnerable elderly people were the targets_.
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greysells2
grey cells matter
07:31 PM on 05/14/2012
This is an endorsement of a party which is fiscally responsible, as the Conservatives claim and can manage the details of economics at a practical level? Fail.