Chinese Firm's Canadian Contracts Raise Security Fears (VIDEO)

CBC  |  Posted: Updated: 05/17/2012 8:29 am


The former head of U.S. counter-espionage says the Harper government is putting North American security at risk by allowing a giant Chinese technology company to participate in major Canadian telecommunications projects.


In an exclusive interview in Washington, Michelle K. Van Cleave told CBC News the involvement of Huawei Technologies in Canadian telecom networks risks turning the information highway into a freeway for Chinese espionage against both the U.S. and Canada.


Huawei has long argued there is no evidence linking the company to the growing tidal wave of international computer hacking and other forms of espionage originating in China.


Nonetheless, the U.S. and Australia have already blocked Huawei from major telecom projects in those countries, and otherwise made it clear they regard China's largest telecommunications company as a potential security threat.


Van Cleave, who served as top spy-catcher for the Bush administration until 2006, describes Huawei as a potential "stalking horse" for Chinese military and intelligence objectives.


Even Canada's own intelligence agencies have warned the Harper government of the risks of throwing open the door to Chinese telecom companies.


Despite all the warnings, the federal and Ontario governments have rolled out the red carpet to Huawei, officially praising the Chinese company's partnerships in Canadian telecom projects with Telus, Bell, SaskTel and WIND Mobile.


During a recent visit to China, for instance, Prime Minister Stephen Harper said he was "honoured" to have witnessed the signing of large contracts for Huawei to provide Telus and Bell with the latest LTE high-speed wireless networks across Canada.


Among its many large customers, Telus has just signed a $250-million contract to provide the Canadian military with secure voice and data services worldwide.


The Ontario government has been equally enthusiastic toward Huawei, giving the telecom giant $6.5 million of taxpayers' money to locate its Canadian office and a "research facility" in the province.


Huawei last year had worldwide revenues of more than $32 billion.


For its part, Huawei has long confronted its critics with claims to be just another multinational corporation owned by its employees, free of Chinese government control, adding it would be commercially suicidal to engage in espionage.


Huawei declined to be interviewed by the CBC. Instead, the company issued a written statement late Tuesday saying, in part, that the company ensures "all our stakeholders, including governments, have a clear understanding of the tools we use to protect the integrity of our customers' networks to the highest standards.


"Over the past four years, we've worked openly and transparently in consultation with our customers and government to meet these requirements."


Van Cleave sees things differently.


"China is a totalitarian government, and Huawei operates at the sufferance of the government, and those relationships are there. Even if Huawei management wished them away, they would still be there."


Van Cleave says the intelligence community fears digital "back doors" could be hidden in the telecommunications networks, allowing spies to steal American and Canadian secrets and ultimately disrupt everything from public utilities to military operations in the event of international conflict.


She says the U.S. government's actions to prevent Huawei from taking over U.S. telecom companies, or participating in major infrastructure projects, "is the right thing to be doing."


'Considerable risk' to Canadians


The Harper government's own Department of Public Safety warned more than a year ago that Canada's telecommunications network is too important to be left to foreign companies.


In a secret memo written in 2011 and obtained under the Access to Information Act, a senior public safety official says "the security and intelligence community" believes that throwing open the Canadian telecom market to foreign companies "would pose a considerable risk to public safety and national security."


While large sections of the secret memo were withheld from release, intelligence sources say the biggest concern was the Chinese.


Van Cleave says China indeed remains the No. 1 espionage threat to the United States, mainly through computer hacking aimed at stealing everything from proprietary technologies to defence secrets.


And it's only getting worse.


The former counter-intelligence boss says frankly: "I would be hard-pressed to say we are winning."


The U.S. International Trade Commission estimates that in 2009 alone, Chinese theft of U.S. intellectual property cost almost a million American jobs, and $48 billion in economic losses.


Van Cleave wonders why Canada hasn't intervened with Huawei.


"Isn't there a process for… the [Canadian] government to step in?"


Canada targeted by hackers


Last year, the Canadian government itself was hit with its worst-ever hacking attack from China, penetrating the highly classified computer systems in at least three federal departments: Finance, Treasury Board and Defence Research.


Documents obtained by CBC show the hackers managed to steal large amounts of classified data before the computer systems could be shut down.


Eighteen months later, those computer systems remain corrupted and unable to connect directly to most of the internet without losing more data to the as-yet-unidentified Chinese spies.


More recently, a former executive of now bankrupt Nortel has blamed Chinese technology theft for hastening the demise of the former Canadian telecom giant.


So, why is the Canadian government greeting Huawei with open arms?


From a business perspective, Huawei is apparently hard to resist.


The upstart WIND Mobile, for instance, used Huawei to build a whole new wireless network in Canada, and has publicly gushed about the Chinese company's high-quality products, reliable service and lower prices than the competition.


China's exploding marketplace of over a billion consumers is also an offer most multinational companies and Western governments — Canada's included — find hard to refuse.


The Harper government, for one, has done a complete about-face with respect to China over the past six years, from a prime ministerial cold shoulder to an all-out trade love-in.


Huawei is bending over backward to show it is a good corporate citizen. For instance, it has put up $1.4 million along with Telus to fund a new centre for cutting-edge research into so-called cloud computing at Ottawa's Carleton University.


Michel Juneau-Katsuya, a security expert and former member of Canada's spy service, says the Harper government is "absolutely" taking a big risk with Huawei, and appears to be ignoring warnings from the U.S., Australia and other allies.


He says there's little doubt CSIS "did its homework" on Huawei, and passed along the information and resulting security recommendations to the Prime Minister's Office.


"Unfortunately, the PMO is very nonchalant when it comes to security," said the intelligence expert. "They have an agenda, a political agenda … and they disregard some of the warnings coming from the official agencies."


Juneau-Katsuya said one of the dangers in Huawei's having access to the Canadian telecommunications network is that it could damage intelligence sharing with the Americans.


He says Canada remains one of China's most important espionage targets precisely because of our close intelligence relationship with the U.S. and other allies.


"If we have not taken certain responsibilities and certain steps to protect ourselves, then our allies will have to assume we have been compromised, and cut communication from their end."


U.S., Australia wary


One thing the Canadian government could not possibly have missed is all the controversy about Huawei in the U.S. and Australia.


In the past five years, there has not been a time when at least one U.S. government agency involved in security hasn't been holding hearings, writing reports and otherwise investigating the possible threats posed by Chinese telecommunications companies such as Huawei.


The CIA, the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, the Pentagon, the White House, Congress, the list goes on — all of them have tried to dissect Huawei's activities and intentions in the U.S. and beyond.


The latest of these is an investigation by the powerful House intelligence committee into "the threat posed by Chinese-owned telecommunications companies."


In announcing the probe, committee chairman Mike Rogers said: "We are looking at the overall infrastructure threat and Huawei happens to be the 800-pound gorilla in the room.


"As the formal investigation begins, I stand by my caution to the American business community about engaging Huawei technology until we can fully determine their motives."


The U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission, an independent agency created by Congress, has produced two thick reports on the role of Chinese telecoms in the growing problem of cyber-espionage against the West.


Both reports conclude there is reason to be wary of Huawei.


Mike Wessel is a sitting member of the commission, and suggests Huawei is a clear and present danger to both the U.S. and Canada.


"Our [telecommunications] systems are not only seamless, they are completely intertwined," Wessel said in an interview with CBC News.


"If it's a security concern for us … why aren't we concerned about what may be happening across the border?"


Australia has taken an even tougher stand than the U.S., telling Huawei there was no point even bidding on that country's largest ever telecommunications expansion.


The Chinese government has dismissed the allegations, accusing Australia of trade protectionism.


But Australia's foreign affairs minister, Bob Carr, later told reporters that the decision on Huawei was purely "on security grounds, reflecting a focus by Australia on the resilience and security of core infrastructure."


Bell and Telus declined interview requests for this story but issued prepared statements.


Bell states in part: "For a company like Bell, security is of primary importance. We work with government and the Canadian and international telecom industry to ensure Bell always offers the highest possible levels of security to our customers.


"We are confident in our network suppliers, including of course Huawei [which] partners with most of the world's carriers."


Telus never mentions Huawei in its statement: "Like all telecommunications companies, we implement the best security safeguards into our network leveraging our own extensive expertise, and the expertise of federal security agencies."


Finally, Public Safety Minister Vic Toews issued a written statement late Tuesday saying that while the government has taken "strong steps" to open the mobile phone sector to competition, it will "continue to ensure that Canadians can rely on telecommunications infrastructure that's safe and secure."


One of the most vocal and colourful critics of Huawei in Washington is congressman Frank R. Wolf.


"The Chinese are the most aggressive spying in this town, and my sense is in Canada and many other places," Wolf said in a recent interview on Capitol Hill.


The congressman comes by his concern about Chinese cyber-espionage through personal experience.


In 2007, hackers traced to China hit his congressional office computers, "and got to everything."


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Leanne McKenzie
You can't make this sh*t up.
08:18 AM on 05/17/2012
Hmmmm Chinese on one hand, the US on the other.

Since Harper has given both access to the information, who do we trust the least?

I'm going with the US as the least trustworthy, because we have what they want and they are too close for comfort.
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Deir Yassin Survivor
01:38 AM on 05/17/2012
Maybe Keifer Sutherland can protect us with a few seasons of "24 Beijing".
04:30 PM on 05/16/2012
Funny, we would be giving the Chinese access almost equal to what the Americans have now. I wonder if we could replace the governments current secure phone system which has, for over 25 years been completely accessible to US Security interests, be replaced by one from China. Why not let Russia in on the bidding?

But don't worry folks, Stevie will get a call from his bosses, it will all go away.
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sdgreen
04:21 PM on 05/16/2012
The BRIC nations are rapidly rising as economic power houses and I do think Canada needs to greet this new reality with positive interface. A massive amount of product is now manufactured in these BRIC countries and used in just about every thing we see on the shelves in Canada, Australia, US and other traditional developed countries.

While I certainly agree that foreign ownership of our resources, manufacturing, and other enterprises should be tightly controlled to maintain Canadian ownership, I just do not see the malevolence of China against Canada that others are quoting in this forum.

Canada needs to inject a new priority into its R&D, manufacturing niches, agriculture and areas where we can compete. There is no way that Canada can compete, at this time, with those in the BRIC nations. Globalization in one sense has changed forever the industrial output of what were the former industrial power houses. At the same time, gradually, those in the BRIC nations are increasing their standard of living and industrialization. Canada needs to find its new path to achieve more employment through specialization.

We live in a new reality and we cannot stop such so we better adapt.
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contest d
03:57 PM on 05/16/2012
What do the Chinese want with all this technological and economic prowess anyway? Neither the social nor environmental catastrophes they're creating, by rushing to catch up with the 'developed world', can be addressed by becoming a larger purveyor of goods and services.

Unless of course they believe, like their myopically enlightened teachers in the West, that over-accumulating wealth fixes more problems than it causes.

Furthermore, if anyone wrote the rules on how to screw your neighbour in global trade (via free trade, foreign investment, structural reform), it's the West. Now that the Chinese are getting good at subterfuge we cry foul... what a bunch of whiners (I mean those destined to loose out on otherwise woefully begotten profitability, ie. our multinationals).
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WeeTadBit
03:23 PM on 05/16/2012
"They have an agenda, a political agenda … and they disregard some of the warnings coming from the official agencies."

The conservatives disregard any, and all warnings. Period.

Does anyone think this government is comprised of visionary geniuses, with priority to protect its citizens, our natural resources, or our environmental integrity?

China is making a laughingstock out of us, knowing Harper and his minions will recklessly sell our future, and our beautiful country, out from under us; as easy for China, as taking candy from a sleeping baby.
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sgillhoolley
Occupy the discussion.
01:50 PM on 05/16/2012
Sounds like some people are missing the boat. The internet is already a highway for intellectual theft and espionage. People need to secure their systems and not assume that things are safe. We also need to start training our own team of crack hackers to probe their systems.
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canobserv
12:25 PM on 05/16/2012
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/chinas-oil-sands-deal-will-have-lasting-impact/article2292009/

Does anybody else find "pinko commie" comments from Reformer supporters highly amusing
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Opygollopy
The more I talk to people, the more I love my dogs
12:24 PM on 05/16/2012
Harper is not going to listen to anyone. I am Canadian and I am disgusted at the fact that Canadians actually voted this man into office. He has sold out Canadian interests to the highest bidder and WE will be paying the price for it.

For the Love of God Canada, wake up, better still, pay attention. We are going to end up in the ditch with this to.ol as the the driver.
11:56 AM on 05/16/2012
NO MORE DEALS WITH THE CHINESE! I WILL NOT VOTE FOR HARPER OR ANY OTHER PARTY THAT MAKE DEALS WITH THE CHINESE.
11:26 AM on 05/16/2012
If I could vote 1000 times on this, it would be NO!
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11:11 AM on 05/16/2012
Canada's telecom will be like a porn star. Double penetrated by the US and China.
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piceaglauca
The picture says it all....
10:51 AM on 05/16/2012
Why does Harper want to isolate the US even more? And maybe ourselves.
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canobserv
12:27 PM on 05/16/2012
it's blatantly obvious this government is dangerously incompetent.....
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Francmon
Homo homini lupus
10:51 AM on 05/16/2012
Harper will keep selling off our country to corporate friends and the Chinese have become friendlier lately. And now Harper "allows" our new Chinese friends to put their noses into our business, just to make sure they get the best deals. And turning a deaf ear, while our new friends are spying is just another way of saying that we don't have any importance, compared with the tons of money that will leave Canada for far away China. Think "OIL"...
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Opygollopy
The more I talk to people, the more I love my dogs
12:26 PM on 05/16/2012
In December, he signed into law that Foreign corporations can buy up to100 % of companies in Canada. Up until that time foreigners could not own more than 21% of anything Canadian.

As far as I am concerned, he has already sold us down the river.
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10:28 AM on 05/16/2012
The sky is falling! There is no way to counter the Chicken Little argument, it makes a media story. This is about paronoia and racism - both rampart in the US and Australia. It is also about Americans trying to protect Cisco Networks world domination. Few preople know that the US NSA (above the CIA) had and for all I know has a backdoor to every computer made. How do you think they can find guys like Bin Ladin?

It is no more dangerous to deal with the Chinese than the Americans.

If the Chinese system is superioir to the Americans system, which it is, then by buying it we become superioir to the Americans, and they don't like that, and a lot of Canadians also want to be subservient always. Thank you Prime Minister Harper for making us independent and world leaders.
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4evercanadian
Still my guitar gently weeps
10:39 AM on 05/16/2012
There is no need to cyber attack a system that is already compromised, and that is exactly what the Chinese are doing here.

http://factsanddetails.com/china.php?itemid=1105&catid=8
http://phys.org/news/2011-12-hacker-teams-china-based-theft.html

I am sure that 2500 years ago you would have been one of the Trojans wheeling the Greek horse through the gates of Troy and telling everyone about of the wonderful days of peace and prosperity to come.
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11:06 AM on 05/16/2012
We already have a Trojan horse in our yard - sent by the Americans. My point is, as you like these facile analogies, lets take the Trojan horse of the Chinese and park it next to the American one, but if we know there are soldiers in both it is simple to post a guard and kill the trojan soldiers when they come out.

I think we should also be buying the Russian or Chinese version of the new fifth generation fighter because they will shoot a F-35 out of the sky in a heartbeat.

The sun has set on America, we need to move on. To be afraid of the Chinese more than the Americans is racist.
11:09 AM on 05/16/2012
Why would you want another country involved with our telecom system then? Seems to me also that the U.S. is generally more in tune with our way of living anyway. I don't think having the NSA overseeing our telecom system is good either, but again, why have someone else involved.

As to Canadians being world leaders and independant, get your head out of your backside. The Harper government also allowed the sell off of the Nortel patents to the highest bidders, virtually ending decent pensions for those workers who had made Nortel the success it was.

This makes us world leaders in giving foreign corporations a stranglehold on the Canadian economy. Where do you think profits go when Vale, a Brazilian company, bought the nickle mine in Sudbury ? Harper's comment -" the last time I looked the mine was still in Sudbury". The workers have had to sign anagreement that substantially reduces things they bargained for in order to keep jobs.

You might also take a look at what hppened to Electr-Motive in London and Stelco in Hamilton. you are thanking Harper for this?