Internet Surveillance Bill Not Dead, Toews Says

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Public Safety Minister Vic Toews is denying reports that the Harper government intends to quietly shelve its controversial online surveillance bill, C-30. (CP/Alamy)


Public Safety Minister Vic Toews is denying reports that the Harper government intends to quietly shelve its controversial online surveillance bill, C-30.


Speaking to reporters on Wednesday morning, Toews insisted the legislation was moving ahead.


"Our government has been very clear, that matter will be referred to a parliamentary committee. In fact we made it clear that legislation would proceed to committee prior to second reading," Toews said.


Toews can move to send the legislation to committee for review before any House debate on the bill, but he has not done that yet in the Commons.


C-30 is similar to earlier legislation that had died on the order paper, but goes further in its enforcement measures.


But the Conservatives faced criticism not only from the opposition benches but also inside their own caucus about privacy concerns with the bill.


In February, shortly after the bill was introduced, Toews told CBC News that he was surprised to hear criticism that a section of C-30 provides for "exceptional circumstances" under which "any police officer" can request customer information from a telecommunications service provider. Toews said in his opinion, it shouldn't extend police powers in that way.


The committee's review is expected to provide the government with an opportunity to amend the legislation.


When the bill was introduced in February, Toews said the legislation was necessary to protect Canadians from child pornography and organized crime. But although it mentions protecting children from predators in its title, there's no mention of child pornography in its actual text.


In the heat of the early debate on the bill, Toews told Liberal public safety critic Francis Scarpaleggia he could "either stand with us or with the child pornographers."


Two social media protests online – one using the Twitter hashtag #tellviceverything, and the other using the Twitter account @vikileaks30 to circulate personal details from the minister's divorce files – raised awareness and mobilized concern about the bill.


Review delayed until fall


On Wednesday, Toews told reporters that it's the "house leader's responsibility" to decide when the legislation proceeds to committee, but the government is "intent on proceeding."


Government House Leader Peter Van Loan's office says the Commons is expected to rise on June 22 for summer recess, and until then the government is focusing on economic legislation.


The Commons committee's review of C-30 isn't expected to start until the fall.


The government could prorogue Parliament at some point over the next year, allowing some bills to die on the order paper. If that happened, the government could deliver a new Throne Speech and make a fresh start with a new legislative agenda, moving on from recent controversies.


Toews mentioned that the recent Queen's Speech in the British Parliament indicated Britain would be bringing forward legislation similar to the Harper government's online surveillance bill.


"This is legislation that civilized, democratic countries around the world recognize is important in order to deal with some very significant problems," Toews said.


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  • What's In Online-Snooping Bill

    Like similar legislation introduced in the past by both Conservative and Liberal governments, the new bill includes provisions that would: <em>With files from CBC</em> (Shutterstock)

  • Warantless Online Info

    Require telecommunications and internet providers to give subscriber data to police, national security agencies and the Competition Bureau without a warrant, including names, phone numbers and IP addresses. (CP)

  • Back Door Access

    Force internet providers and other makers of technology to provide a "back door" to make communications accessible to police. (Getty)

  • Location, Location, Location

    Allow police to get warrants to obtain information transmitted over the internet and data related to its transmission, including locations of individuals and transactions. (Alamy)

  • Preserve Data

    Allow courts to compel other parties to preserve electronic evidence. (Alamy)

  • New Bill Is Different

    However, unlike the most recent previous version of the bill, the new legislation: (Alamy)

  • Less Data

    Requires telecommunications providers to disclose, without a warrant, just six types of identifiers from subscriber data instead of 11. (Alamy)

  • Oversight

    Provides for an internal audit of warrantless requests that will go to a government minister and oversight review body. Minister of Public Safety Vic Toews is pictured. (CP)

  • Review After 5 Years

    Includes a provision for a review after five years. (Alamy)

  • More Time To Implement

    Allows telecommunications service providers to take 18 months instead of 12 months to buy equipment that would allow police to intercept communications. (Alamy)

  • Expanded Definitions

    Changes the definition of hate propaganda to include communication targeting sex, age and gender. (Alamy)

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06:24 PM on 07/13/2012
"This is legislation that civilized, democratic countries around the world recognize is important in order to deal with some very significant problems,"

That's why the European Union killed ACTA which was similar to bill C-30 right? Toews needs to give his head a shake or do people need to throw more of his personal information on the internet to show him it's not only the police who will have access to your information.
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BCSLAVE
Got a key?
08:45 PM on 05/17/2012
Harper wants what Hitler had - total control over your lives, your decisions, your communications.

He wants to make laws and policy outside of parliament (escape scrutiny and accountability) and be able to have friends and allies spy on everyone (including unions, opposition leaders) so he can stay in power. Heck he even profiles all of us to cross check if we deserve services from the government. If you have no intention of voting for him - no soup for you today (read EI).
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Nadine Lumley
unseatHarper circle ca
10:45 AM on 05/17/2012
Harper's Gov. has NOT pulled the legislation, and it has failed to make any firm commitments to make substantive changes. As it stands, Bill C-30 is still alive in Parliament, including sections that allow a range of "authorities" to access the personal information of any Canadian, at any time, without a warrant.

http://openmedia.ca/blog/online-spying-bill-alive-and-well
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Nadine Lumley
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10:44 AM on 05/17/2012
...not only did Vic Toews appoint Catherine Everett to the court of Queen's Bench while sleeping with her,

…. but Stephen Harper discovered this at some point during the month or so between November 26, 2006 and January 4 2007,

and quietly removed Vic Toews from the position of Justice Minister.

http://www.vancouverobserver.com/politics/commentary/2012/03/03/vic-toews-targeted-second-anonymous-smear-campaign?page=0,1

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Nadine Lumley
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10:44 AM on 05/17/2012
In brief, Mr. Toews was a candidate for the Progressive Conservative Party of Manitoba in the 1999 provincial election, which was called on August 17th of 1999 and which was held on September 21st of 1999.

The Election Finances Act imposes limitations on election expenses that are to be incurred by both political parties and candidates. It is not in dispute that Mr. Toews exceeded the limitations on election expenses in his campaign.

http://accesstoinfo.blogspot.com/2008/07/canadian-federal-mp-vic-toews_14.html
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Nadine Lumley
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10:43 AM on 05/17/2012
A Vic Toews billboard on Highway 1 near Steinbach was vandalized sometime around March 25, 2012.

http://www.winnipegsun.com/2012/03/28/say-it-aint-so-vic
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Nadine Lumley
unseatHarper circle ca
10:43 AM on 05/17/2012
After selling himself as “Family Man”, Vic Toews fathers out-of-wedlock baby

The 55-year-old Toews' public face of self-righteous morality is now clashing with his troubled private life. An MP dubbed the "minister of family values" by Liberals is embroiled in a messy divorce after fathering a child last fall with a much younger woman.

That's his business, frankly, yet it might explain why Mr. Toews was demoted to the Treasury Board and immediately cloaked by invisibility, stewing in question period silence while his junior parliamentary secretary juggles tough questions on election financing irregularities.

But if a judicial appointment is being used to ease a problem minister out of government, it only increases the galling patronage of the appointment.

And if they brazenly go ahead and hand him the $232,000-plus job and announce it in the dead of summer when nobody's looking, it will underline the optics of this government behaving no differently than any other. Justice Vic Toews would be a huge sign this government, even having become thoroughly Ottawashed, is still dirty.

http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/columnists/story.html?id=743e9b7e-d2d6-43c2-a37d-71e38a84163e&p=1

http://montrealsimon.blogspot.com/2008/05/vic-toews-hypocrisy-as-con-value.html

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AuntiFascist
Orwell predicted Harper
07:52 AM on 05/17/2012
The Conservatives need to know what Canadians say, think, and do in order to ensure that it conforms, or at least doesn't obstruct, to their plans for the oil sector in Canada. How can we expect them to efficiently oppress us if they can't spy on us?

Obviously they can do this via the RCMP to whom the Party now issues direct orders or by having Party "advisors" accompany officials travelling outside Canada.

There is human intelligence gathering model used to great success in East Germany where they secret police, the Stasi, scared average people into reporting on on another.

If the Internet security bill cannot be used and should the RCMP prove bothersome then the Harper Conservatives can in turn create and empower a secret police force to utilize all manner of Communist and fascist techniques. There are great models for 'Vic Toews and his Harper to consider. They just need the go ahead from at least one of the Koch brothers.

I suspect this is probably already in the planning stages. Gotta go, it's late and someone just rang my door bell I wonder who........................
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Spanky McFarlane
ILLEGITIMUS NON CARBORUNDUM.
02:55 AM on 05/17/2012
I guess the flagrant abuse of power during the G8/G20 fiasco by the Police didn't raise any eyebrows with Conservatives ...or they are just not capable of putting two & two together as their spending has indicated.
paintitblacker
shit happens life goes on
02:33 AM on 05/17/2012
toews is a pervert ,passing a spybill on the backs of victims,claiming those who questioned his imagined moral superiority,supported child porn. nothing would be sacred even medical records of abuse victims . also the inclusion of a clause that allows toews to appoint who ever he chooses to be an oberseer and sift and sort through peoples phone calls e.mails and all electronic communications, well vic how old was that babysitter, and did you plead guilty to your election rule violations
08:39 PM on 05/16/2012
If the police can spy on you, they can spy on the person posting to the Internet a video of cops breaking into a house and shooting puppies. Then they can dig up whatever they want on that person to smear them, and say to the public "if you don't trust us, you're a freak like this person!" (Even if many people who DON'T post videos of cops doing whatever also happen to share what was being smeared about.)

Yeah, this bill needs to die already.
paintitblacker
shit happens life goes on
02:41 AM on 05/17/2012
did he ever read the bill ,no tried to just wake into the HoC and pass the bill.
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08:18 PM on 05/16/2012
Can Toews use a computer? I doubt it.

"Internet is bad, it's right in the bible, " said Public Safety Minister Vic Toews to a group of enthusiastic bible freaks.
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04:42 PM on 05/16/2012
Wow, for a mennonite preachers son wick i dont think you are getting the message. dont worry about our lives clean up your own personal logs first.
paintitblacker
shit happens life goes on
02:36 AM on 05/17/2012
he likes babysitters ,and violating election rules
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Taylor Jay
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03:56 PM on 05/16/2012
keep pushing Toews, this is the undoing of the Reform party right here, by your actions and your hypocritical lifestyle. Canada 2015 I cannot wait to kick these republicans out.
paintitblacker
shit happens life goes on
02:38 AM on 05/17/2012
wonder what they got in store for all us dissenters on line , perhaps a prisoner exchange program with china .