Canada Budget 2012: NDP Public Budget Hearings Planned

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Canada Budget 2012
NDP house leader Nathan Cullen.

OTTAWA - Two years ago, Errol Mendes showed up at Liberal-sponsored public hearings to decry the erosion of parliamentary democracy in Canada.

The University of Ottawa law professor was back on Parliament Hill on Wednesday, with the same message, at the first of a series of NDP-sponsored public hearings on the Harper government's massive budget implementation bill.

"I come here in a non-partisan nature because I'm worried about the state of Canadian democracy under this present government," Mendes told the hearing.

How to get Canadians equally concerned about it is another matter.

The NDP is hoping their hearings will help raise public awareness and rally public opinion against the budget bill, which is stuffed with a host of non-budgetary measures including overhauls of immigration, Old Age Security, Employment Insurance, environmental assessment and fisheries management laws.

The NDP, along with other opposition parties, maintain it's a "Trojan Horse bill" designed to push through a bunch of controversial measures with little public notice or parliamentary scrutiny.

But the Liberal experience suggests it's no easy task to engage Canadians about the state of their democracy.

Liberal-sponsored hearings two years ago were similarly focused on Harper's attempts to avoid parliamentary scrutiny, although in that case the party was protesting the prime minister's use of prorogation to shut Parliament down altogether.

The erosion of parliamentary democracy was a favourite theme of former Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff.

Indeed, Liberals defeated Harper's minority government last spring on a contempt-of-Parliament motion. During the subsequent election campaign, Ignatieff repeatedly exhorted Canadians to "rise up" against what he described as Harper's "ruthless, relentless disrespect" for Parliament.

The Liberals were reduced to a third-party rump for their efforts and Harper won his long-sought majority.

"I think, in some respects, it takes time for the public to really know and understand what's going on," Mendes said in an interview.

"But ultimately, the dangers to Canadian democracy will eventually seep through and people will say, 'Well, hang on a second here. Yeah, we care about jobs and we care about the economy but didn't we fight two wars for something else?'"

Mendes said disrespect for Parliament has increased under majority Conservative rule, with Harper essentially running a "one-man government."

"He started that in a minority government, using all the tricks of the trade, from manipulating committees to prorogation to you know what and, now, it's extreme ... Canadians need to know about that. It goes way beyond the budget."

Government House Leader Peter Van Loan, meantime, disputed that assertion, saying the budget bill reflects the views Canadians expressed through "the most extensive round of pre-budget consultations ever."

"The NDP should stop obstructing this job creating bill and holding up a critical economic plan that will continue creating jobs for Canadian families," Van Loan said a statement.

Wednesday's NDP hearing attracted about 100 people, primarily New Democrat MPs and their staffers.

But Matthew Carroll, campaign director for Leadnow.ca, said 20,000 Canadians have signed an online petition against the budget bill, launched by the online advocacy group just a week ago.

"Never before has a budget been used as cover for such a sweeping agenda to remake Canadian society," Carroll said.

"The most egregious element of the bill, to my mind, is its overarching anti-democratic nature ... Such sweeping changes to our laws must be presented openly for debate."

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OTTAWA - Two years ago, Errol Mendes showed up at Liberal-sponsored public hearings to decry the erosion of parliamentary democracy in Canada.The University of Ottawa law professor was back on Parliam...
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Donna Meness
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11:54 AM on 05/17/2012
Read the list...& weep then RISE UP

DM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Has Stephen Harper Been Looting the Canadian Treasury?

.....The list goes on.

These are enormous sums of money, taken from us with little in exchange. What value did Canadian tax payers get for this transfer of funds?

Are we better off, knowing that Harper's caucus can travel in style? Are we better off realizing that Harper can fly his friends around in our military jets, that may help with party fundraising, but does little for out of work Canadians.

Are we happier with his HST? Are we smiling, living vicariously through the orgy at the mini-bars? Can we ignore expensive medial bills if it means we have fighter jets to keep us safe from the Russians and prisons to keep us safe from who knows what? Did I mention that our crime rate is the lowest in our history?

This is looting on a massive scale. Absolutely massive.

And yet the Harper government is blaming us for expecting too much.

How selfish are we that we want perks like healthcare and education? That we want to live in a just society? That we want clean air and clean water and a climate bill that actually fights global warming? That we want our veterans and seniors rewarded for their service to our country? That we want to end poverty and homelessness?

http://pushedleft.blogspot.ca/2010/12/has-stephen-harper-been-looting.html
10:56 PM on 05/16/2012
I may be wrong, but is it at all possible that Canadians seem not to buy into the "threat to democracy" cries because we simply don't want to? The evidence is plain and clear before our eyes, yet so many simply pass it off. Those who pass it off the most are those who are not experiencing some kind of hardship at this time. This reminds me so much of Hitler's rise to power. while i won't directly compare harper and hitler (both start with an H), it should be noted that the people of germany didn't grumble as hitler took over the entire government because things were looking up for them, harper has had the luck of Canada not falling into a deep recession yet and thus the majority of Canadians, while they may not have voted for harper, are still happy with their lives and do not have the personal need to "rise up". hopefully something changes in the minds of Canadians before it is too late.
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sdgreen
10:44 PM on 05/16/2012
The socialist NDP have zero concept about the Canadian or world economy and never will with their ignorant isolationist along with their anti-unifying policies announced by their equally stupid leader Thomas Mulcair. Dumb dumb Nathan Cullen is equally stupid for his ignorance of how the real Canadian and world economies actually work.
01:35 AM on 05/17/2012
Yeah ... you are so right about that with the NDP... hold it, let's think about this for a moment...

First off, do you really have any proof of that? It's not like the NDP have been in Gov't before, so what are you really basing that off of. Oh I know, it's the traditional theme of the Cons know best when it comes to the economy... hmmmm let's think about that.

You referenced NDP Cullen as a 'dumb dumb'; that's interesting name calling. I am sure that if you are an honest blogger, that you have even more choice words for Ministers like Bev Oda who hides her secrets until she gets caught then try's to make amends. Or what about Peter MacKay? I would love to hear the name calling you must have for him (because no wise Canadian would defend a guy who misled Canadians for over a 2-year period regarding the F35's. Well maybe MacKay isn't that bad... I guess it depends if one is actually capable of fathoming a cost difference between the numbers: 15 billion and 25 billion... you do get the math on that don't you? I am not down on your NDP comments and name calling. But I am sure that you, if you have a shred of decency, must have even more choice name calls for the Cons presently 'running' our country now (did I say 'running' I meant 'ruining').
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djelimon17
what's this thing for?
04:31 AM on 05/17/2012
Lot of opinion, not a lot of substance
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djelimon17
what's this thing for?
10:01 PM on 05/16/2012
Said quotes were Harper decrying the practice of omnibus bills as practiced by the Grits
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djelimon17
what's this thing for?
09:58 PM on 05/16/2012
I noticed Van Loan was reticent in front of Cullen yesterday on CTV when this came up, as Cullen started reciting Harpers own words from before he was a PM at him. He could do nothing but look sheepish, and avoid eye contact.
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sdgreen
10:54 PM on 05/16/2012
The NDP on the other hand have a distinct genetic defect i that they can not multitask on anything that does not involve a single subject. It is clear that the NDP really have no clue on how government operates. Cullen is clearly impaired and not up to the job.
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djelimon17
what's this thing for?
06:38 AM on 05/17/2012
So I guess Harper has a genetic defect, since you can't get rid of them.

To quote the man in 2005 WRT the Martin 120 page omnibus bill (current bill is 420)

“In the interests of democracy, I ask how can members represent their constituents on these various areas when they are forced to vote on a block of such legislation?”

How indeed?