Quincy Jones needs no introduction, but if he did, where would you start? His work and friendships with Michael Jackson, Frank Sinatra, Lionel Hampton, and Ray Charles? How about Marvin Gaye, Sidney Poitier, Stevie Wonder, 2Pac and Will Smith?
Would you mention his astounding 27 Grammys or his even more astounding 79 nominations? Would you include his Emmy, the seven Oscars for which he's been nominated, or the one — the Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Award — which he won?
Any way you slice it, Quincy Jones is one of the most important figures in the history of popular music, a fact not lost on the scores of people who jam-packed Toronto's Marriott ballroom on May 10 to see the legend interviewed by Ross Porter of Jazz FM.91 as part of Canadian Music Week.
It’d be impossible to relate all of the stories that Jones told over the course of over an hour onstage, but here are some of the best anecdotes he shared with us at CMW 2014.
QUINCY JONES LOVES HIM SOME NIKKI YANOFSKY
Canadian jazz singer Nikki Yanofsky was referred to by Porter as Quincy Jones' "most recent discovery," and at one point Jones compared her ability to Ella Fitzgerald's. "Don’t fail to listen to her," Jones warned, "because this lady is just starting and she is just… I watched her last night and I see her growth, exponentially. It was just incredible."
Yanofsky, who was sitting directly in front of me, was in a semi-permanent state of cheering and blushing throughout this and other bits of the conversation. She was delightful.
"When I was studying in Paris with Nadia Boulanger," Jones continued, "she said something I'll never forget. She said 'Quincy, your music can never be more or less than you are as a human being.’ And Nikki is a great, great human being.”
QUINCY JONES IS YOUR DAD
From the same conversation about Yanofsky, Jones dropped an oldie but a goodie: "God gave you two ears and one mouth; you're supposed to listen twice as much as you talk."
ON NADIA BOULANGER, IGOR STRAVINSKY, AND STRENGTH
"Nadia Boulanger was Romanian, Russian, and French. The most astounding woman I ever met in my life. She was a mentor to Stravinsky, taught Aaron Copland, Philip Glass, Daniel Barenboim, Leonard Bernstein. I met Stravinsky there when I was working with her in the 50s. What a lady! She was strong, really strong. She was the first woman to conduct the New York Philharmonic." He later added, "she said, 'I have to be careful with jazz musicians, Quincy, because you guys shack up with music first, and you record it and marry it later.'"
A HILARIOUS-SOUNDING THING ABOUT AN ALL-TIME LEGEND
"At that time, Lionel Hampton was bigger than Louis Armstrong — Louis Armstrong used to open for us."
ON ROCK AND ROLL'S ORIGINS
“I know it might seem that Bill Haley and Elvis Presley started rock and roll, but I'm telling you — and the Quarrymen — Louis Jordan and Lionel Hampton did that.”
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"Imagine what a harmonious world it could be if every single person, both young and old shared a little of what he is good at doing."
"A great song can make a terrible singer sound good, but a good singer -- you put a great song on top of that, you're really in great shape!"
"Arts is just as important as military defense ... Emotional defense is just as important."
"It's amazing how much trouble you can get in when you don't have anything else to do."
"You cannot get an A if you're afraid of getting an F."
"Count Basie used to tell me, 'There's hills and valleys in our business. You find out who you are when you get in the valleys.'"
"You make your mistakes to learn how to get to the good stuff. The thing is just you never can stop trying. That's the difference between steps of victory and steps of defeat."
"Greatness occurs when your children love you, when your critics respect you and when you have peace of mind."
"Every country can be defined through their food, their music and their language. That's the soul of a country."
"Music was the one thing I could control. It was the one world that offered me freedom. When I played music, my nightmares ended. My family problems disappeared. I didn't have to search for answers."
"I think drugs should be legalized tomorrow. I really do. It should be planned. I'm not saying it could be irresponsible, but everybody wants to get high in any strata of society is already doing it."
"Every day, my daddy told me the same thing. 'Once a task is just begun, never leave it till it's done. Be the labour great or small, do it well or not at all.'"
"I guess hip-hop has been closer to the pulse of the streets than any music we've had in a long time. It's sociology as well as music, which is in keeping with the tradition of black music in America."
"I found this out over the years, that racism is a thinly veiled disguise over economics and money. It really is."
"I like all music. The only music I don't like is bad music."
ON WHY HE STOPPED PLAYING THE TRUMPET
“I stopped playing trumpet because I had to. I had two aneurysms. Serious brain operations. They cut my head open twice [in the mid 1970s]." This, he said, has interfered with his ability to go through metal detectors and customs.
ON MARLON BRANDO, STEVEN SPIELBERG, AND BEING UNDERESTIMATED
After his brain surgery, Jones says Brando sent him to his home on the island of Tetiaroa to convalesce.
"That was right after 'The Color Purple,' [which] was the first film I produced and it was a lot of work. I also discovered the power of being underestimated. It gives you strength. Everybody was saying 'what does this idiot Quincy Jones thinking about? He thinks he's going to get Steven Spielberg to direct his first movie. Steven was a $5.5 million director, 'E.T.,' 'Close Encounters,' everything you could imagine — 'Jaws' — and guess what? He did the movie for me for $84,000."
ON 'THE COLOR PURPLE'
"He said 'you've got to find somebody.' I was talking with [Spielberg] about this lady up in San Francisco working on the streets, doing these impersonations. Whoopi Goldberg. So I had her come to Amblin and [she did] seventeen vignettes from junkies to Valley Girls. Everything. And Steven was so in love.
You may remember there was another famous actress in that movie. Ever wonder how she got cast?
"I saw this lady on Chicago A.M. and said, ‘if she can act, that’s Sofia. It took me three days to find the name.” That name, of course, was Oprah Winfrey.
The Color Purple didn’t win any Oscars despite getting nominated for 11. Jones said it was because of an anti-Spielberg bias in Hollywood. “The Academy guys, 350 Academy guys, they were very jealous of Steven. They gave [Best Picture] to 'Gandhi' instead of 'E.T.,' they were very jealous of Steven and George Lucas, you know.”
ON FRANK SINATRA, AND WOMEN, AND GOODNESS
There was a long story about the first time Jones performed with Sinatra ("this man was from, like, another planet!"), but the best part was at its conclusion. There was a long pause, and then Jones said, breathlessly, "I cannot tell you the experiences we had. It was just un-be-lieve-a-ble."
Porter pushed: "Let’s talk a little bit about the ladies, what trouble did guys you get into with the ladies, you and Frank?” Jones replied with something unintelligible under his breath, which delighted the crowd. “We saw Ruth Roman, Ava Gardner, Lana Turner, Marilyn Monroe. And see, I didn't think Marilyn was that hot because I was big into Mamie Van Doren back then. She was Swedish and Cherokee, give me a break!”
“Ever seen anyone get on the bad side of Frank?” Porter asked. “Well, Frank was bipolar, you know,” said Jones. “And he loves you to pieces. One example: I went over in 1968 to do the score to 'The Italian Job' with Michael Caine, who happens to be my celestial twin — we were born on the same year, month, day, and hour — and he taught me Cockney and all this stuff. And my son was born that same year.When I came back [there] was a letter from Sinatra and it said, “Dear QIII,” which is my son. “Let uncle Frank welcome you into this world with a college education, [and there was] a bond for his whole college education.”