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University: Not a Pre-Req for Adulthood Anymore

Posted: 09/13/2012 1:38 pm

Until very recently it was thought that universities were virtually a prerequisite to becoming an adult. They would lead to an ennobling education and, practically speaking, open up a higher pay gradient for the rest of your career. Of course this is still the case at great schools in elite programs or with great teachers in mediocre schools, but it cannot be taken for granted that simply university is good.

Kate Lunau in a recent Maclean's article looked at how university students' mental health is seriously at risk. The October cover story of The Walrus (currently unavailable online) is entitled, "Unemployed, Unhappy, and Drowning in Debt." This supports what I have seen to be the case. For many, university's assumed value is no more than a collective hallucination.

Students enter university determined to drink, experiment with drugs (or at least use them more), and copulate. They enter huge lecture halls where tenured profs who resent the drudgery of entry level survey courses speak on subjects the students don't care about, that they only picked because it sounded easy. Perhaps sociology. If a professor or T.A. is sought during their office hours, it's not for intellectual exchange but to pout over grades. They don't necessarily learn for four years, they endure.

The academic requirements have been unforgivably watered down for the sake of the university's economic interest. A degree is mostly a commodity, and the marketplace is uninterested in preserving its actual worth. Schools lower their standards to gain greater admittance, and there is greater reluctance to fail brutal students. The golden ratio for many students involves getting a passing grade while doing as little of the reading as possible. They might blatantly cheat on exams and pay people to write their papers. This is ubiquitous, not rare.

Just today the National Post had a story about unemployed University professors writing student papers. Seriously. In any case, those who go on to work after graduation mostly don't use anything they've learned in their studies during their job. To quote the Walrus article, "Most university students get jobs, but more than a third accept jobs that require no post-secondary qualifications...Thus, universities can and do claim that their graduates find jobs, even while graduates complain that their career hopes are dashed."

University gives you a satisfactory answer to tell relatives at family dinners who inquire, "what are you doing with your life?" It has a corny prestige leftover from when university meant more, but it's mostly a brutally expensive, hedonistic way to put off becoming an adult by four years. People are realizing this, but while this delusion can still be invoked by schools and government officials without sounding like outright charlatans, tuition goes up, and programs are lengthened and broadened into subdivisions encouraging more certification.

I was in teacher's college for a year (having never been to OISE, Dante stopped short). Teachers and students knew the classes were largely useless, that you only learned during the teaching practicum outside class. In 08-09 my program took on 800 "teacher candidates" knowing full well there weren't even jobs for a quarter of them. In response, they considered doubling the length of the program (and tuition). Teacher candidates and practising teachers are encouraged to take more and more supplementary courses to become greater experts on subjects like gym. It's a never ending, foolproof business plan other industries exploit: pay us X amount of money so that afterwards you'll make X + Y.

It doesn't matter how qualified you actually are or aren't if you don't have certification. It's like under-aged kids getting into bars because the bouncer needs to see the blatantly forged Michigan ID so he can say he saw something in case a bureaucrat inspector comes in. I'd rather hire someone who smartly avoids tuition and read great, free books from the library for four years, or a 22-year-old with four years of working experience. But often these poor souls are like adults the bouncer can't let into the bar because they don't have a formally issued ID. Meanwhile the 17-year-old from Michigan gets in instead, laughing his ass off. This is a racket.

A generation of students and graduates are financially crippled with student debt, remain under or unemployed, and they literally have mental issues. And the so-called responsible people keep applauding! University is not for everyone, and society should come to terms with that.

If university makes sense for you, go ahead. I loved my time at Dalhousie and I'd change nothing, but there should no longer be an unthinking premium placed on university, and there shouldn't be a stigma placed on kids who feel it isn't for them. In fact, the job market agrees. The Walrus reported that only 2 per cent of parents want their kids to get a trade certificate. Becoming a plumber is a great thing. Hopefully soon, the university delusion and the corny prestige it bestows will wear off for good.

 

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12:26 AM on 11/09/2012
I did my undergraduate studies in management with a heavy portion of statistics and finance and also have an MBA. Both of these "pieces of paper" helped me land decent jobs. BUT. I earned my MBA when I was in my late 30s, well into my career. Everything I learned in the MBA I could place against the context of my experience in business and it was a fantastic learning experience.

I keep training so I can stay relevant. I also have my PMP and will be writing the Canadian Securities exam soon.

My only regret is not earning a degree in either economics or political science. Both fascinate me, but neither would help me with my career.
12:04 PM on 09/17/2012
Go to college. Take up a trade.

I did both. Guess which got me a job? I now work for the government in a cushy desk job where I challenge myself daily, but an go on vacation when I want, can be sick without losing pay, and meet really great people.

"Trades" are varied, also. I'm a Library Technician. I am a Librarian without the Master's degree, so I earn a bit less, but I have a better chance of getting hired. Schools don't hire librarians, small libraries do't hire librarians, businesses don't hire librarians... but they hire technicians.

It's not easy, however. Trades aren't easy. Sometimes you're in school longer (longer dys and more years) than University, but jobs are much more prevalent when you graduate. If I had gone into plumbing, become and electrician or construction worker,I'd be making over 60k a year by now. (It will take a few years to earn the experience to get that kind of pay, bu tit's worth it.)

As for me now? Going to college was the best thing I've ever done for myself. I don't regret a single second, and have continually told people to take up a trade and go to college since I finished.

What does a Bachelor of Arts get you? Or even a Business degree? An entry-level job.

Me? I worked for a prestigious private school right after I graduated, and now the government.

Take up a trade. University is a scam.
06:59 PM on 09/16/2012
Maybe I graduated too long ago (1986, '91 and '99), but I witnessed or experienced none of the depressing hopelessness that this article portrays. I found most lectures interesting, professors eloquent and engaged, reading material and assignments challenging, and I worked hard, always. Yeah, we got drunk on weekends and went looking for potential mates, but I, at any rate, never missed a class, cheated on an exam, or paid anyone to write a paper. I graduated with Arts degrees, which I am now told are nearly useless. However, I learned to think critically, read with deeper understanding and appreciation, and to write, a skill I was unable to do well before university. Now that I teach full time, I am surprised at the degree to which my students lack many of these skills, and would benefit tremendously by acquiring them. I would advise young people to work hard at school, stay focused and optimistic, and positive results and bright futures are sure to follow. Leave the smartphone at home, pay attention in class, get involved in your studies, and grow up to pass on your knowledge to the next generation.
05:02 PM on 09/16/2012
There are a couple of issues that aren't being addressed. First, forecasting is suggesting that 70% of all employment positions opening in Canada by the end of this decade will require University or College education. Currently less than half are actually attaining either of these.

The second issue was mentioned, but not really discussed. Canada is entering a slow motion crisis of tradesmen (and women) shortages and very little to nothing is being done about that, not even requiring all students to graduate with the minimum Grade 12 math required to become a plumber, or an underwater explosives technician, or a diamond driller, or anything where you could make double and even triple what their teachers are making today.
07:23 PM on 09/16/2012
I think you raise a good point there. In high school, we chose one of two routes: vocational or academic. It was quietly understood that the smart kids went academic because they were off to university. Slower students went in for a trade, auto mechanics, carpentry or drafting. I think the system could be improved by encouraging all students to find their bliss, as Joseph Cambell put it, and neither glorify nor look down on one way or another. I often wish my parents had approved my desire to pursue carpentry, which I loved, instead of pushing me through physics and chemistry, which I hated.
01:36 PM on 09/17/2012
So right!

Parents of a generation ago (mine, and it sounds like yours, too) pushed the kids to get a degree so they could get a good job. I now have a post-grad degree and make a good living, but (taking into account inflation) am not making more than what my father did with a grade 12 education and a lot of practical experience. And I will not have the cushy retirement he did.

What errors are we making today in advising our kids to "go to University"? What a shame that we seldom discover our "biss" until after university! The world needs more carpenters.
04:05 PM on 09/16/2012
Further education is not a bad thing. We encouraged our youngest daughter to delay any thoughts of adult education, until it was something she truly wants to do. Meanwhile, there are countless life lessons, (household budgeting, communication with peers, nutrition on a tight timeline, developing a strong personal relationship, advancing out of the 'J-O-B' and into a career that makes you happy... )
The gods have been kind in their teachings, and she seems to be passing with much greater understanding than she ever did in the classroom.
12:59 PM on 09/16/2012
For the most part, I concur with the theme of this article, however, I alo believe that University can offer programs of value. Specifically, programs related to Medicine, Law, Business and Engineering remain very relevent to the needs of our society. Liberal arts programs provide intellectual stimulus, however, I believe they have limited useful purpose as applied knowledge. There has been an inherent bias against technical schools, which I fear has left a whole generation inadequately employed due to the fact that they attended nonapplied knowledsge programs at University. Personally, I have a 2 degrees: Socioology and an MBA. Sociology taught me critical reasoning skills as well as methods to understand marketing and sales; demographics ands psychographics. My MBA provided me with a means to employ my method of thinking into the business world; it taught me a certain discipline of thought. I learned my basic life skills from my 10 years in the army before going to school. I have encouraged my children to consider the cost of their education and skill development within the context of what they enjoy, their capabilities and potential job prospects. The days of walking oot of University with a job guarantee in junior corporate management are long gone.
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12:12 PM on 09/16/2012
I don't know. On one hand, I agree completely about the garbage quality of teacher's college and the joke that is additional qualification courses. But I don't really agree with you on your cynical take on university. INstead of saying that we should take away the prestige of getting a degree, which really only follows the dumbassery of people being "anti-intellectual" we should instead work on fixing some of the problems you bring up. Schools shouldnt be degree assembly lines and they should be goverment funded and free to students so that economics no longer trump the whole point of educating the populace in the first place. Despite many negatives, university remains the place where smart people must go. You need a degree because you need an education. Its very shortsighted and immature to say "when are you going to use what you learn" because there is no useless knowledge.
10:38 AM on 09/16/2012
I disagree with your article.
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09:34 AM on 09/16/2012
Sorry, but things are not going to change anytime soon. In fact, they cant.

As bizarre as it may sound to understand the mindset of the global leadership today you really do need to understand the psycho-pathology of Hitler. Perhaps the simplest wy to explain is thus.

At what point did Hitler ultimately lose the war? Although there will be many historians who could give definitive answers, the actual answer is the war was unwinnable since the "plan" itself was a failure. The progressive plan, that is being prosecuted today is very ambitious unfortunately since the "science" behind the plan itself is flawed the plan has no choice but to fail.

The common denominator behind much of what is going on today is academia. Science.

They have dug themselves a rather large hole and there is still a ways to go till things hit bottom. And they will drag as many of you with them as they can.

Many of you are involved in the ultimate scam, paying for your own indoctrination, whilst the offenders know it is an economic trap.

They will begin to turn on themselves soon enough, I set the stage, they betray themselves, and things get "interesting".
09:32 AM on 09/16/2012
I never went to university, I went to college. I graduated after 2 years and started as a stationary engineer making 70k a year with no debt. I now make 90-100k a year with no university education. I know lots of people making minimum wage with university education and crippling student debt. Nothing shameful about getting a trade and making a living wage.
07:49 AM on 09/16/2012
I am a university professor. And I couldn't agree more. The thing is: I actually believe that a university education can be very, very valuable - not just in the job market, but in encouraging people to stop and think about difficult issues. That's something our society needs more of (just read message boards like these sometimes to see what I mean.) The problem is that the commodification of university has led to circumstances where it's almost impossible to teach that way anymore. The modern university is basically an assembly line. Just stay on the line, and then emerge four years later with a degree. And a pile of debt. That will keep happening until people start saying "no". And employers have to be the ones to start - they have to be the ones to say that a degree isn't necessary for a lot of the jobs they're hiring for.
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05:15 AM on 09/16/2012
University should be free.
11:18 AM on 09/16/2012
Hard to get teachers to work for that.
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06:05 PM on 09/16/2012
The teachers would still get paid. At least they do in places like Germany or Scandinavian countries where university is free.
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03:30 AM on 09/16/2012
My university education was outstanding. It taught me how to think. Now when I read articles or come across a problem i can go thru all the info and understand or solve it. Learning how to think is priceless. It's a shame that many people cannot afford to go or are indebted for many years after they grad. Education is the key to a person's and their countrie's wealth and health.
10:42 AM on 09/16/2012
Shame it didn't teach you how to spell!
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09:32 PM on 09/16/2012
Not bad for won un the morning!
01:47 PM on 09/16/2012
I have never been to university, but I can think. I am well-read, articulate and traveled. While I could have been in university, learning to think, I traveled and learned to live. Now that I've settled down I have finally chosen my path and am becoming a tradesman.

You may have for yourself a piece of paper that says you can think. But if you believe that the only reason you can read articles and understand them is because you have a university degree, then you have no respect for the power of a curious intellect.

The assumption that the college and trade school lot are somehow intellectually inferior is laughably naive and elitist. A person has a lifetime they can devote to learning, and if you truly believe that the only learning that matters happens before a person turns 23, you are most definately living in a small world.