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Victory: ICC Rules that Palestine is Still Not a State

Posted: 04/ 3/2012 4:13 pm

In a massive defeat for Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas' campaign to delegitimize Israel, the International Criminal Court (ICC) has ruled that Palestine is not a "state" and it therefore does not have jurisdiction to investigate alleged "war crimes" committed by Israel in the "territory of Palestine since 1 July 2002."

On January 22, 2009, the Palestinian Authority lodged a letter with the ICC, purporting to accept the ICC's jurisdiction in order to bring war crimes cases against Israeli officials at the ICC. The application was lodged in the wake of Israel's defensive Gaza War, aimed at ending years of rocket attacks from Gaza by Hamas.

In an official statement released today, the ICC said that under the Rome Statute (which governs the court's jurisdiction), only for the "relevant bodies at the United Nations or the Assembly of States Parties to make the legal determination whether Palestine qualifies as a state for the purpose of acceding to the Rome Statute and thereby enabling the exercise of jurisdiction by the Court."

According to the statute only internationally recognized states can join the ICC. The ICC said that although the Palestinians claim to have been recognized as a state in bilateral relations by more than 130 governments and by certain international organisations, including United Nation bodies (such as UNESCO), the relevant decision for the purposes of its determination is the status which has been granted to it by the UN General Assembly.

At present, Palestine has only been granted "observer" status by the United Nations General Assembly and not full membership.

Under Article 4 of the UN Charter, states can only be admitted to membership in the United Nations by a decision of the General Assembly upon the recommendation of the UN Security Council.

In addition, membership is only open to "peace-loving states" which accept the obligations contained in the Charter and, are able and willing to carry out these obligations. Given the PA's intentions to form a unity government with Hamas, an internationally recognized terrorist organisation, the latter is highly dubious to say the least.

On 23 September 2011, the Palestinian Authority submitted an application for admission to the UN. However, in an embarrassing diplomatic failure for Abbas, he was unable to secure the nine votes needed to pass a Security Council resolution to even determine whether to hold a vote. In any event, this was a moot point, as the United States declared it would veto such an application, saying it opposed any unilateral actions by the Palestinians to try establish a state "that can only be achieved by negotiations."

Abbas' application to the ICC has been part of an ongoing Palestinian lawfare campaign, aided and abetted by anti Israel non-governmental organisations, to delegitimize and demonize the Jewish state by political exploitation of international law.

In fact, Abbas was very explicit as to his intentions, when he wrote in a May 16, 2011 op-ed in the New York Times:

"Palestine's admission to the United Nations would pave the way for the internationalization of the conflict as a legal matter, not only a political one. It would also pave the way for us to pursue claims against Israel at the United Nations, human rights treaty bodies and the International Court of Justice."

The Palestinians' defeat at the ICC is a clear victory for justice and commonsense. However, the vexatious brief should never have even got this far and ought to have been thrown out after the first glance.

Furthermore, the ICC's decision is also the umpteenth reminder to the Palestinians that only direct and bona fide negotiations with Israel, and not unilateral actions at the UN or international fora, will bring about statehood for them.

 

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03:01 PM on 04/05/2012
As things stand Palestine will never receive state status because the required security council recommendation will inevitably be vetoed by the US and Israel, and that is the case even though Palestine has observer status and is recognized by 130 countries and UNESCO. So they must continue to be bombed, buzzed, falsely imprisoned, tortured, humiliated, marginalized, stalked - and all by a "democratic" country abetted by another "democratic" country. If that isn't ridiculous, what is?
Thelonius
Lived in Middle East for
02:26 PM on 04/05/2012
Amnesty International’s response to the ICC:

http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/MDE15/018/2012/en/a6cf21da-8cdc-4913-9972-c9e6b30b7491/mde150182012en.pdf

EXCERPTS:

"[By] making a non-judicial finding that the ICC cannot act without a determination by the United Nations or the ICC Assembly of States Parties that the Palestinian Authority is a state, the Office of the Prosecutor is sending a message to those who committed crimes under international law that they are currently beyond the reach of international justice. Such impunity perpetuates an environment where human rights violations by all sides can continue, and increases the risk of further civilian casualties...."
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"...the Office of the Prosecutor’s decision to form its own position in favour of a political determination, rather than seeking a judicial ruling by the judges, creates the danger that the Office of the Prosecutor will be subject to allegations of political bias and failing to act independently by relying on external political bodies to determine its jurisdiction. This could threaten the credibility of the ICC...,"

"Despite its recent statement, the Office of the Prosecutor has not closed its preliminary
examination into the situation in Palestine and therefore remains seized of the matter. On this
basis, Amnesty International is calling on the Office of the Prosecutor to reconsider the position in
its statement, and is urging the Prosecutor again to seek a judicial ruling on the jurisdiction of the
ICC in this situation."
12:16 PM on 04/04/2012
I suppose it's not a state.

I believe the term is "Bantustan"
11:53 AM on 04/04/2012
So basically , if palestinians can't do it since they are not a state, can another state do it on their behalf, say IRAN or LEBANON or EGYPT...?

problem solved
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Charles the Great
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02:41 PM on 04/04/2012
Will not happen. Israel or the Palestinian National Authority do not recognize the court even by a third party since neither side does not even recognize the ICC.
07:45 AM on 04/04/2012
This is called a victory from an organization with the Gall to include Democracy in the title. This is another Israeli institution under the guise of legitimacy. To call a victory because Palestine does not have the right to investigate War Crimes is a travesty of justice. The world saw what happened and the fact that we do not collectively speak out is a crime against humanity. When will people wise up and say enough is enough. Never again, unless it is a Palestinian,
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RollaJones
Is there a Robespierre in the house?
06:50 AM on 04/04/2012
From article: 'The Palestinians' defeat at the ICC is a clear victory for justice and commonsense.'

I suppose this statement could be considered true if one also believed that down is up and black is white.
jimbo57
ni dieu ni maitre
05:36 AM on 04/04/2012
Obviously the Palestinians are wasting their time trying to get recognition as an independeant state through diplomatic channels. Maybe they should follow the same process the Israelis did to gain THEIR independence.
05:39 PM on 04/04/2012
They don't have similar means to bribe our "honest" western democratic leaders.
12:18 AM on 04/04/2012
It is against International law for any state to oppress a population under its control, to withhold water supply, cooking oil and gas and other basic amenities, not to mention menacing and bombing them as Israel did Gaza in the "Cast Lead" operation. How does Israel get away with that and how does bringing up such abuse constitute unfair criticism of Israel? If Israel does not control Gaza, what are the numerous checkpoints and the huge numbers of Palestinian prisoners about ?
What is behind the ICC's pronounced lack of interest in this situation?
Thelonius
Lived in Middle East for
02:29 PM on 04/05/2012
Israel is in continuous and gross violation of the 1949 Fourth Geneva Convention binding on all UN members and also ratified by Israel in 1952. Furthermore, Israel is in gross violation of the UN Charter and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights which are also binding on all UN members.
09:44 AM on 05/17/2012
In your imagination. Israel is not in any violation of the 4th G.C. And they wouldn't constitue Gross violations by any measure. UDHR is not binding in Law, and Israel still isn't contravening that. This political assymetric Lawfare perpetrated against Israel is simply a ridiculous attempt to de-legitimize Israel. How nice it is when no International Law's apply to non State organization like the terrorist group Hamas, PIJ, PRC, PA, & PLO.
09:39 AM on 05/17/2012
Israel is not in any violation of International Law in regards to the occupied territory's. The territories consist of a extreme belligerent population that has repeatedly demonstrated violence and murder against innocent Israeli civilians and seek Israel's destruction. Israel has right by law to subdue any uprising and violence by the terrorists within that area, which may include reoccupation, as the PA are the one's that administer most of the Pal'ns in the W.B. and Hamas looks after all of the Gazans. Under Humanitarian Law Israel is providing all it is required by law, and what was agreed to by previous agreements from Oslo accords. Only after 8000 rockets/mortars illegally shot into Israel for years and the kidnapping of Israeli soldier , did Israel finally decide to take LEGAL action against terrorist Hamas group. Since Hamas nor PA do anything about terrorist actions, Israel has to take responsibility to prison such terrorists, that nor checkpoints have any relation to whether a place is occupied by Law. ICC understands their is and never was a state called Palestine. If it were a State then they would be brought to court as defendants for their perpetual terrorism against Israel and targeting of civilians.
11:47 PM on 04/03/2012
When do the jews get back their k\land from when they were forced out of the rest of the middle east? How about Pakistan, India wants it back. BTW the Romans want Egypt back
02:55 AM on 04/04/2012
Let's keep it simple the Gauls have the gall to demand their land back and the French want Normandy back. I tell you there's a lot of people who have been slaughtered and no justice in sight. I mean why do some get their land back and others don't. As to that guy Genghiz Khan - well he just conquered land for the hell of it. No real reason ever given.
10:30 PM on 04/04/2012
You two are way off the mark. The simple reason is that the international legal norms (laws) were not in place when in other instances of colonization.
Your logic is weak as well. You are using the fallacy tu quoque. Learn how to think.
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Patrick Flannery
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10:53 PM on 04/03/2012
Does anyone vett this stuff? This is just a bunch of partisan pro-Israel propaganda. No, Palestine is not a recognized state by the U.N. but there are a whole lot of people who think it ought to be. And the bit about U.N. membership only being open to "peace-loving" organizations is laughable. IMO, Israel has been flushing whatever sympathy it might have attracted from me down the toilet by refusing to restrain its fanatics from building settlements in disputed territory. Certainly not the action of a country trying hard to find a peaceful solution.
10:03 PM on 04/03/2012
I thought you Israel-Firsters did not put any stock into international court decisions. Lets now dwell upon the ICJ decision that ruled Israel illegally occupies the West Bank.
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Charles the Great
Canadian/Israeli Goy in Alert,Nunavut
09:04 AM on 04/04/2012
So the ICC an apologist for Israel since some do not even know how international law even works? Is the ICC a 'Israel-Firsters'?
Rosin the Bow
Palestine doesn't want peace. Meshaal said so
12:21 PM on 04/04/2012
And I thought you Hamas lovers consider the international court sacred and the ultimate authority.
03:24 PM on 04/05/2012
rosin - Just love how thoughtlessly throw around those words "Hamas lovers" I love Hamas as much as I love the Stern Gang, the Palmach, Commando Group 101, and Ergun and all of those other violent groups....do you remember them? Do you remember all the people who led them or involved with them including a litany of Israeli Prime Ministers......Begin, Sharon, Shamir, Rabin, and Ben-Gurion. But let me ask you this....what exactly would you expect from an occupation of over 60 years on a sham religious pretext....flowers?
09:37 PM on 04/03/2012
An article that starts out its opening line by saying that the ICC decision and the Palestinian effort was "a massive defeat....to [the effort to] delegitimize Israel..."

This should be enough to alert the mind of the slowest editor.....but it would appear not.

The quote supplied in the article does nothing to justify these claims....they do nothing of the sort. I have pasted it below...

"Palestine's admission to the United Nations would pave the way for the internationalization of the conflict as a legal matter, not only a political one. It would also pave the way for us to pursue claims against Israel at the United Nations, human rights treaty bodies and the International Court of Justice."

Can we please not have writers Ostrovsky and Douglas Anthony Cooper who shill for their causes rather transparently under the pretense of "analysis" or "journalism"....its evidently clear it is neither.
Thelonius
Lived in Middle East for
02:37 PM on 04/05/2012
Apparently, Ostrovsky is blissfully unaware that Israel is doing an excellent job of delegitimizing itself. Also, can Israel be recognized as a state when it has yet to declare its borders while belligerently, illegally and brutally occupying Palestinian and other Arab lands, dispossessing the native inhabitants at an excelerating rate and stealing their water resources?
09:01 PM on 04/03/2012
So a state can do pretty much anything to a people lacking state status.
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FearlessFreep
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10:31 AM on 04/05/2012
Like the Chinese in Tibet...
08:50 PM on 04/03/2012
So you have to be a 'State' to complain about aggressions made to you by another country. Would Twaiwan have a standing with the ICC. So a group of old men with self interests declare that a group of people can have war crimes committed against them, because the land they legally occupy isn't recognized as a State by the grumpy old men that could make a historic decision to move this process forward. They would rather leave it as the status quo?? Totally ridiculous that we leave human rights and dignity to the politics played by nations bent on their own grab for power at all costs. The article was not 'common sense', neither was the ICC ruling.
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Baghooli
Immortals!
08:08 PM on 04/03/2012
This game shall continue! It's not that Palestinians don't have any competent Attorneys to tell them that there are procedures to be followed before taking their case to ICC, Palestinians have enough votes in UN general assembly to become a state and then having access to ICC, Palestinian leadership just have to find a courage and use it!