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Go to Prison, Get a Great Job

Posted: 03/10/2012 11:00 am

According to Robert Sampson, mandatory minimum sentencing is a great tool for getting people the education and training they need to successfully reintegrate and contribute to society. At least that was the focus of his argument in a debate with Eric Sterling on CBC's "The Current" Thursday.

Sampson served as Corrections Minister in Ontario under Mike Harris, and reviewed Canada's Correctional Services in 2007. Many of his recommendations were included in Bill C-10, known as the Safe Streets and Communities Act, which includes mandatory minimum sentences for drug offences.

As legal counsel to the U.S. House Judiciary Committee in the 1980's, Eric Sterling drafted American legislation on mandatory minimum sentencing. He now believes that legislation was a "tragedy" for the American judicial system.

I'm stuck on Go to Prison, Get a Great Job. It's no worse than Join the Navy, See the World. It's the cheap alternative to college and university -- room and board included. These are unemployable people, Sampson says, many with no more than a grade eight education, and no skills whatsoever. If we let them out after a few short months they won't get the help they need. Locked in, they can't drop out seems to be his logic.

Why examine and address the causes of alienation, and failures of our education system? Why enable young people to finish high school with the social supports they need to make good choices, when we can let our corrections system do the job for a lot more money?

My friend suggests that with steeply rising tuition rates, encouraging our kids to become felons may ensure they get the skills they need to compete in the 21st Century.

With Canadian rates of recidivism at approximately 50%, and mandatory minimum legislation guaranteed to pack our prisons with even more low-level criminals, these great training programs had better work.

Sampson is confident they will. I think he's deluded. An ex-prisoner commented that he'd never been violent until he entered the prison system where aggression, stress, and watching your back rule the day. Not the best learning environment.

In the world of politics, strong arguments are built on either side. The fact that our neighbours to the south whom our current government is often keen to emulate, have tried and failed, might, at the very least, give us cause to reflect before moving forward. Then again, we had plenty of evidence about other things like the economic failure of mega cities, but we chose not to heed that either. The beauty of being in power is you get to pick and chose your evidence.

Our government has their classic conservative arguments for C-10 -- getting tough on crime, keeping the streets safe, and using stronger sentencing as a deterrent. But Sampson's argument about prisons as community colleges for the criminally inclined is, well, laughable. B.A., M.B.A., E.C.E., trades, medicine. What will be on offer? It makes embracing a life of crime as a first career, then heading off to prison to prepare for a second one look kind of sweet.

Countering his own argument Sampson went on to say that Bill C-10 is not as harsh and absolute as people seem to think, that one can in fact be paroled for good behaviour before completing a minimum sentence.

So now I'm confused. What does minimum sentence even mean? And if they get paroled early won't they miss out on all that critical classroom time our prisons are set to deliver so effectively?

I'd be grateful for the giggles, were it not for the disproportionate negative impact of this legislation on poor, and marginalized communities, and the utter unlikelihood that Kingston Penitentiary College or Millhaven U. will overhaul the criminal world, transforming grade eight drop outs into the workforce of tomorrow.

Maybe Conservatives should stick with what they know best -- law and order, and not try to wade into the social, do-gooder realm. It really doesn't suit them, and they just end up looking silly.

 
According to Robert Sampson, mandatory minimum sentencing is a great tool for getting people the education and training they need to successfully reintegrate and contribute to society. At least that w...
According to Robert Sampson, mandatory minimum sentencing is a great tool for getting people the education and training they need to successfully reintegrate and contribute to society. At least that w...
 
 
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Dale Chan
Hope is both panacea and poison.
01:49 PM on 03/19/2012
Wait, free education in prison? Well I'm off to commit a felony!
12:14 PM on 03/17/2012
They should do hard labor for some crimes. But I don't know if you could get them to do it, legally.
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Whistlejackett
Hey stop doing that
08:47 PM on 03/13/2012
Education in the prison system is imperative. Although funding for a University degree is over the top. There is nothing worse than having inmates caught up in a life with nothing to do. Remember though, any one person who chooses to make improvements to their life will usually be centered out and beaten by his peers, especially in an over crowded jail system. There are many aspects to consider for each and every one person. To do nothing is worse than offering something, even if it is just plain social skills.
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Don McLeod
08:40 AM on 03/13/2012
People who got failing marks in school are going to get failing marks in prison. Not that they are failures. A system that relies on wedding out using a mark is going to do just that. I can't see prisons that are modeled on schools, with marks, doing most prisoners any good. In prison about 15% of the population are psychopaths. They learn to manipulate the system for their own self interest. They will use Sampson's system.
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Marg Wood
Peace
09:30 PM on 03/12/2012
I have a better idea make education affordable for everyone ! Do not have minimum mandatory sentences for miner offences ! Do not build more jails! Put violent offenders away for a long time! Use the money saved for education so our young people don't go to jail, but get an education outside of jail! You can't force education on offenders who don't want it! Encourage your kids to become fellons??? Who want's to hire fellons, even educated ones? These people are about as smart as the GOP in the US and that is not smart at all !
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08:43 PM on 03/11/2012
The only educational future we see for our children, in this decade..
is in prison...?
its a lucky thing if the only resource they have to protest education is a strike or a dangerous street demonstration.
Has anyone ever had the joy of being caught up in a taboo political discussion in this century?
I see why such discussions have become taboo...but I wonder if I am the only one who has made this observation...
When you listen to a Conservative speak...
its like listening to Harper himself talk.
Everything is pro party..pro this..pro that...
lots of facts and figures...
jargon, jargon, jargon..
Nothing gets said.
When a Liberal speaks..
everything relaxes a bit..
there is a slight French accent in the room..
people become sarcastic...and subtle
there is some complaining..
and anger at the role of money mongers in our country
but the conversation always leads its way back to
a calmness as the Liberals will always
end their conversation by laughing inwardly at the square brained incompetence of the Conservative...
01:37 PM on 03/11/2012
If education is the goal of minimum sentences, prisons are are extremely expensive institutions of learning. At a cost of over $100, 000 a year, it would be cheaper to send them to Harvard.
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logicanada
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01:27 PM on 03/11/2012
Uhm, if children were encouraged to stay in school they likely would be less vulnerable to criminal activities. That Vladimir Harper wants to fill prisons for profit is a given. Maybe he can start with his own ministers once the investigation into this criminal election scandal is completed.
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djelimon17
what's this thing for?
10:42 AM on 03/11/2012
I think what we're looking at here is the new CPC vision of our manufacturing sector
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08:36 AM on 03/11/2012
When I heard the interview, I too was disgusted by Samson's ridiculous claims that putting more Canadians in prison amounted to an education program. But further, when it was suggested that mandatory minimums disproportionately target low level offenders, he agreed that was a "market" that needed to be "harvested" (his words). He also went on to acknowledge the bill was all about "public perception" and didn't need to offer evidence of efficacy.

Tory claims to be 'tough on crime' are simply that - claims. They appeal to the lowest common denominator by playing to public perception, sweeping under the rug the subsequent need to build more prisons, their tendency to produce more career criminals, their disproportionate incarceration of society's poorest members, etc.

But what to expect from a party whose base fawned at the feet of Alberta's former premier Ralph Klein who freely admitted his idea of leadership was to "figure out which way the parade was going and jump in front of it."

Pathetic.
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arachne646
No more hurting people--Peace
03:57 AM on 03/11/2012
Canada's prison system is still not equipped to deal with the disproportionate numbers of prisoners of First Nations' origin, nor the constant problem of prisoners who have mental health problems.
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foogie
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12:10 AM on 03/11/2012
Just a fact check: Our (Canada's) federal prisons do provide inmates with an opportunity to earn their high school diplomas or GED. They do not provide inmates with a college or university education. Inmates must pay for their own college and university courses and these courses must be print-based correspondence courses as inmates are not allowed access the Internet.
11:50 PM on 03/10/2012
Minimum sentencing has not worked, nor has the death penalty; for example, USSR, China, Britain and many other countries. As a retired lawyer, I remember prisoners opting to remain in prison a while longer to complete the trades they were learning rather than take early parole. Then on their release, the unions would not accept them as tradesmen. Some criminals are simply "bad" and others make mistakes much like children. We need wise judges to assess and sentence accordingly, and of course with community input.
05:28 PM on 03/10/2012
So ... for a four-year course, I need to commit a bigger crime, right?
04:27 PM on 03/10/2012
Bill C-10 is a classic example of "it didn't work last year, so let's do more of it this year" logic. How long will it take to fix the problems caused by this bill?
01:40 PM on 03/11/2012
I agree. This bill is ideologically driven and nothing to do with is logical and practical.