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Why Do Breasts Always Have to Sell Beer?

Posted: 11/30/2012 5:58 pm

I get emails from public relations companies all the time. Generally for medium to large breweries announcing a new product or event, but there are exceptions to that.

The other day I got a message about a bar opening in Toronto. It doesn't really matter what bar it is, as it raises a concern that exists in a variety of bars. In fact, the problem isn't even black and white, there's definitely a variety of shades of grey. Of course, the company was looking for some coverage, which is a big part of what I do. Normally I would have just sent a quick "No thanks" email to be polite and left it at that, but for some reason, yesterday was different.

I'm not sure if it was because it was my 9th wedding anniversary, and my wife continually impresses me and brings me joy. Possibly it was because I have a daughter now, and I'm thinking about my actions as a man, particularly relating to how they relate to girls and young women who are growing up in a messed up world. Whatever it is, I started typing and the next thing I knew, I had a blog post. So here's what my problem is, and what I wish for in the world (among a lot of other stuff).

Thanks for the note. While I appreciate you taking the time to write me, using women's bodies to sell alcohol is probably the thing I hate most about the broader beer culture in the western world. As this is foundational to [The Bar]'s business plan, I would hardly be able to avoid editorializing on my feelings about this, and I don't think this would be at all helpful to your marketing campaign.


I would say I wish the [The Bar] success, but I don't. I wish they would encourage their servers to dress in a way that is tasteful, and respectful to who they are, rather than how they look. To embrace who they are as individuals, rather than using their sexuality to increase the company's bottom line. I wish their customers would have the confidence to drink in social settings where they are valued, not for how much money they might spend, but rather, for what they add to the interesting mix of folks who inevitably provide the life and "feel" of a great bar. I wish they would have enough faith in themselves to not believe the hype, that drinking brand X at bar Y somehow validates them.

While this might sound preachy (it probably is), know that I feel genuinely bad for both the servers who work at these types of bars, and the customers who drink at them. Because participation in a bar culture can be a healthy wonderful experience, where you can find real validation being who you are, whether you are an attractive young women, or a balding middle aged dude like me.

Again, thank you for thinking of me. Feel free to keep me on your contact list for future announcements regarding beer and related stuff in Toronto.

Best,
Chris

What are your thoughts? Are using breasts and immodest clothing as a marketing plan acceptable? The servers are hardly being forced to work at these establishments, they choose to do so. The customers must know that the (mainly female) staff are only being to paid to act interested in them (at least they must know it on some level).

If everybody is going in with their heads up, is there a problem? Am I crazy, or an over-sensitive father? I should add, I realize this isn't exactly revolutionary thought. But I've been struck by it a lot recently. I think as a man, I need to be held to a higher standard. It's not OK to actively participate in both the objectification of a woman, and in the simplification of who I am as an individual. We need to demand better of ourselves.

 

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I get emails from public relations companies all the time. Generally for medium to large breweries announcing a new product or event, but there are exceptions to that. The other day I got a message ...
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08:25 AM on 12/03/2012
I think that to bring about change, people do need to start voicing their concerns about practices they disagree with. I think you're doing something great, and if you even manage to get a few of these bars to stop and think about how they're marketing themselves then you'll have done everyone a service. Keep up the good work!
06:05 AM on 12/03/2012
Who cares what sells beer?

"What's wrong with Sexy?" Nigel Tuffnel
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03:27 PM on 12/02/2012
Sex sells, Chris. Sex sells.
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04:45 PM on 12/02/2012
It sure does. But we've changed a lot of bad stuff; much worse than using sexuality to sell non-related products. This should be fairly easy to accomplish. Not only in my lifetime, but maybe in time for my daughter's first job pulling pints.
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01:26 PM on 12/02/2012
"To embrace who they are as individuals, rather than using their sexuality to increase the company's bottom line." What I got out of this was that a woman's sexuality can't be part of being an individual? That a person who has what are considered attractive physical features not to use them for profit? We all have talents that are used for profit, brains, social skills, strength, endurance, but as soon as it is good looks people tend to start thinking its demeaning. A company would be acting against its own best interest to not attempt to use a strategy that has been proven to be effective. As you said if the servers want to display themselves for profit, so be it, it is their choice, have fun.

If you as a father don't want to attend these establishments, don't go. Its the wonder of a free market. If you don't want your daughter to work in a bar showing off her assets, well that's a harder thing to assure. I know a few waitress' who work at bars who started as they wanted to freak out dad. :-)

Now for me, I find so much flesh posted everywhere that I really don't seem to notice it. It now fails to gain my attention, and many bars and casinos with ads that display attractive men and women having fun, well the reality when you get in there is the attractive people tend to be elsewhere.
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03:42 PM on 12/02/2012
I don't consider market principles to be moral principles, so I couldn't possibly care about market principles and would life to stop companies from profiterring from exploitation.
The fact that you associate market forces with "how things ought to be" is your choice, but you first have to convince me why market forces trump moral truth before I can accept something like that (I am not from the religious right, but what we ought to do should be based on some moral outlook and principle)
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04:40 PM on 12/02/2012
A woman's sexuality is absolutely part of who she is as an individual. My point is when who she is gets distilled down to her sexuality exclusively, there is a problem.

Clearly I won't be attending these bars, but a big piece of writing this post was to challenge other people to consider their actions. Why choose to drink in these places? What on earth does one gain over the many other bars available, other than looking at a woman's body, that you will very likely never have any more intimate contact with than staring? Why not buy a 6-pack and stay home and spend some quality time with Google Image search?

The thought of both my son and daughter's choices of rebellion are simultaneously a joy and terror. Joy remembering how hard I tried to carve out my own identity as a teen, and terror remembering significant parts of the process that I would rather they avoid.

As far as desensitization goes, I know what you mean, but I try to stay quite aware of the prevalence of sexuality on display for the sake of dollars in coffers. There are days when indignation doesn't strike as I walk by an American Apparel advert, and I need to consciously remind myself that this is not OK, no matter how common-place it becomes.
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08:49 AM on 12/02/2012
Changing your attitude towards women after having a daughter, is like getting religion after the second coming.
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03:42 PM on 12/02/2012
Thats a little unfair.
Some people need a smack to the face to see clearly.
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04:26 PM on 12/02/2012
Haha, well it's a fair point, though my attitude didn't change. Rather my reaction to my own indignation did. I was raised by my mother and sister, only visiting with my Dad for some evenings and weekends, as well as a vacation or two a year, until my Mum remarried when I was 10. Being raised in a fairly female-dominated environment meant I took for granted how "feminist" I was until high school when guys I hung out with had these shocking attitudes towards women.
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11:08 PM on 12/02/2012
Fathers guard their daughter’s virginity like it belongs to them. They will perform all manner of mental calisthenics to justify their ownership of the said hymen, including a new found interest in women’s liberation.
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05:40 AM on 12/02/2012
Ads for beach vacations are more revealing and those for sports cars are often accompanied by nubile young women. Beer ads are just more in your face and feature women as submissive 'servers'.

I think the difference is that beer ads are the least subliminal to the point that they suggest sex more blatently than the erectile dysfunction ones do.

Regardless of the product ad makers know that sex sells and the newly converted feminist father is just beginning to realise how deep that truth runs.
12:55 AM on 12/02/2012
Why are mentions of breasts used to draw eyes to "news" articles?
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10:56 PM on 12/01/2012
There is always the burqa as way of controlling the females in your life.
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05:25 PM on 12/01/2012
Pitcher selling the staff of life I think it's rather obvious.

We never get off the teat we just change the contents.
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03:49 PM on 12/01/2012
jsehgal, marketing campaigns, whether they feature breasts or not, are very carefully monitored for success, based on subsequent sales, consumer engagement, etc. So to change the behavior, we stop buying and engaging, when the sales tactic is essentially exploitation. And we challenge the people in our lives to do so as well. We demand better of ourselves and our friends. There are some phenomenal beers being made across Canada and the USA, by people who have effectively no marketing budget, let alone one for a breast-centric campaign. So we support them, and try to introduce our friends to them. And maybe, by the time my son is legal drinking age, more people buy beer because it's cask-conditioned and well-made, than because the beer appeared in an add with sexy parts of a woman's body.

sordo44 What's the beer in question? Recently I've been drinking a lot of Sawdust City and Bellwoods, which are two very small craft brewers here in Toronto.
01:45 PM on 12/01/2012
An answer to your question Christ, I like both.
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01:15 PM on 12/01/2012
The other day, I was enjoying the company of my friends at home. In walks my well dresses beautiful young daughter with a couple of seedy looking young boys in tow. My friend repeated the refrain, "You realize that those boys have the same thing in mind as you did at your age." I could have smacked him! I guess this is reality. We grow from unruly young boys chasing girls to responsible fathers protective of our children. and the world of commerce uses any trick available to increase sales by appealing to our instincts, bribing our law makers and monopolizing our markets. Marketers choosing to exploit sex seem to limit themselves to the social mores. Witness the billboards in conservative countries such as India and China where attractive girls dressed from head to toe are set beside the products. In the West, we expose more skin because it is socially acceptable. So, Chris, if this is not acceptable, how are we going to change that?
12:47 PM on 12/01/2012
Reading some of the replies below, that you are being too sensitive, that breasts sell beer, that the girls happily, if not merrily flaunt themselves for cash, that this type of marketing has worked for years so why change it, etc.is, perhaps, expected. I think it is great that you spoke your truth and made a conscious choice to not take this on and let the client know why without drama. There are many things that the humans have done in the past (even in the present) that we would look at and think "how could they do that?". The influence, of ads and promotions that objectify women, is not always apparent, and even if it is, we have created enough cognitive dissonance to accept the current state of our society. This may seem like a small thing but I think it is part of a much bigger picture. Historical events or behaviour that we shudder at today, did not change because people put their head in the sand.
12:33 PM on 12/01/2012
As a prisoner of testosterone I love those buxom babes on beer commercials but truthfully I drink the kind of beer that pleases my palate and I've never once seen it in a TV ad.
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03:45 PM on 12/02/2012
It must suck to be imprisoned by your passions.....
04:39 PM on 12/02/2012
Hell no, I love being a prisoner of testosterone. If you're going to be a prisoner, it's the only way to go.
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12:04 PM on 12/01/2012
Hey everyone, thanks for reading and for your thoughts, I do appreciate good dialogue. I just tried to post a comment, but it exceeded the comment word limit by nearly 100%, so perhaps that's a gentle nudge that perhaps it's meant to be another blog post. I will put it together, and get it up ASAP.

For now, let me allude to it, and say that two main themes seem to be emerging, both here and on twitter. What I would call the "passive", that the girls are choosing to do this, so it's "harmless", and the "pessimist", that it's always been like this, men will be men, etc, and there's nothing to be done about it. I don't think either of these are valid arguments, and I'll explain why in the post. For now, what does everybody else think? Reasonable? Not?

By the way, this isn't to devalue the other types of comments, including those or support and empathy. Thank you for those, as well as all the others. This was my first post here, and I'm really excited about the engagement.

Thanks!