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Wolverine 556
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08:54 PM on 10/08/2012
First, people keep saying that Psy is a geek or whatever, which I take issue with. Many non-Asians are insanely popular for their cool style and whatnot, so why is he a geek? He seems awesome to me.

Second, I like Psy but not Rain. So?

Finally, there are certainly people that mask racism, sexism, and so on by "loving" certain things as proof they do not hate those things, but would it not also be racism for a non-Asian to claim to love everything Asian just because it was Asian?

I am a white man that loves Japanese and Chinese history so much that I spent much of my time in graduate school studying both, but I am not drawn to all things Japanese or Chinese. I wrote papers about the role Western racism played in the development of Imperial Japan. That continued racism isn't one-sided, however, and I have seen Asians ridiculing non-Asians for liking their cultures, albeit said Asians always wore Western clothing, enjoyed Western movies/television, celebrated Western fads, and so on.

Some people may indeed like Psy for all of the wrong reasons, but this article seems to go too far towards making it seem like he can't be popular without racism playing a role because he doesn't look like Rain. Cee Lo doesn't look like Denzel, but so what? Cool is cool, and I cheer for the cool guys that aren't perceived as "cool" just because they are attractive.
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LamAng
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08:53 PM on 10/08/2012
Thank you! I agree 100%. It does nothing but promote a stereotype. Not all Asians dance like that and not all Asians are good in math. Whether they admit it or not, racism in America is still alive and well. As for the video, the question is - are they laughing with him or at him?
08:40 PM on 10/08/2012
So if I understand you correctly, you'd be less offended by white people enjoying Gangnam Style if the singer was in better shape. Because by being a bit pudgey, he's perpetuating a stereotype that think all white people have. Because white people think that all Asians are pudgey and great dancers. Got it. Maybe you should direct your comments to Psy. Ask him to work out and get 6 pack abs. Do you think he would do it? Or would he try to gain more weight? Because being unattractive is how you make it in show biz if your Asian? Except for Bruce Lee, Jet Lee, Chong Fat, etc.
02:06 AM on 10/09/2012
Um I don't think you read the article very closely. The problem is that in mainstream Western culture the preference is for asexual Asian men. Even when the actor in question is attractive if the film was made in Hollywood he won't get the girl. When someone like Psy comes along and unwittingly fits into Western stereotypes ('cause I get he's comedic and was aiming his performance at a South Korean audience that is well aware of the joke) it's allowed to be popular. It's also about challenging people who think they've just done a great job liking Korean music to listen to Korean music where the Asian singer isn't the joke.

It's a pretty deep rooted stereotype and one a lot of people either aren't aware of or don't recognize it when it's in front of them. Look at Bruce Lee on The Green Hornet, look at American Jet Li films. Look at the current Marvel movie run. Only Asian guy I can think of is Hogun (played by the absolutely delicious Tadanobu Asanao) aka the single member of the warrior three not getting any.
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Chunkylover54
me are no nice guy
08:30 PM on 10/08/2012
IIDK WHAT THIS GUYS PROBLEM IS... ASAIN CHICKS ARE HOT!
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Brent Casey
08:28 PM on 10/08/2012
Psy exhibits a physical humor that transcends race, while performing a (too) catchy synthpop tune. I look at him and feel like laughing - as I do with many people I find funny. This is endearing. Most of the scenes in the Gangnam style video I find funny and stylish. The guy does not take himself too seriously and I admire that. He is cool and does not appear to care about cool.
A person could learn from such things.
10:53 PM on 10/08/2012
I wish I had moves like Psy. Seriously.
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Brent Casey
12:44 PM on 10/09/2012
Hell yes. I don't care where he's from, but I dig that he's Korean.
Divine thought
hate knows that love's the cure
08:22 PM on 10/08/2012
Interesting.
I understand your view.
Bring the RAIN!
08:10 PM on 10/08/2012
People love catchy songs with funny, colourful video clips. Same reason why the Lonely Island tracks are so popular. I just don't see Asian stereotypes as being an important part of the mix.
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linmarco
08:09 PM on 10/08/2012
Be careful accusing whites of being racist. When segregation was the order of the day, and I know. I was a black living in the segregated south, they considered it a badge of honor to openly assert their loathing and hatred for minorities, especially blacks. Come 1964 and the Civil Rights act and after that you couldn't get one of them to admit being racist. I've seen them make people-especially blacks- who accuse them of being racist, look like a fool. Those of them that practice it have mastered the art of making it seem like theirs is nothing more than a mainstream complaint. They hide it better than a camouflaged deer hunter. This is not a complaint but an observation.
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Darius Molark
de gustibus non est disputandum
07:46 PM on 10/08/2012
The thought that you have made the Western world when you have slept with their women flies in the face that you have made it when you take they money from them. It's the money, man, that opens all doors in the West, and your daring balls.
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Alex Goncharenko
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07:43 PM on 10/08/2012
So before we couldn't openly dislike something for fear of being called racist, now we can't openly LIKE something for fear of being called racist?
Do you realize that you are desensitizing people about racism this way? When EVERYTHING you do is called racist by someone, legit or not, you really stop caring about racism.
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Sara Williams
07:06 PM on 10/08/2012
You're really stretching it looking for racism. It might hold true for a few old ladies, but until you mentioned the American Idol guy, I hadn't even thought of him. Rather, being a geek for all things Asian, I see more racism of the "weeaboo" kind than the "let's all point and laugh at the Korean from Mad TV" kind.

Us Americans do find Asian quirkiness to be crazy over the top quirky, though. What struck me about the video was what a dork Psy looks like, yet he has all these beautiful people around him and is doing a really catch dance song. It's meant to be funny, and y'know what? It is.
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Gaaltero
Conscious Black Man
06:45 PM on 10/08/2012
The emasculated Asian male has always been part of American culture. Don't let any white guy tell you different because obviously they will disagree.

The ladies are already checkin out the brothas. What happens when Rain comes rollin up in his Ferrari?
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GravitonX
10^300 bosons could care less.
06:39 PM on 10/08/2012
Excellent article and completely valid.
06:36 PM on 10/08/2012
Mickey Rooney as an Asian, I always found that offensive, I am saying this as a white guy
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sgillhoolley
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05:59 PM on 10/08/2012
I think you are overthinking things. I dont like the song, but it did catch my attention the first five times. It will soon die of overplay, and then be tossed on the crapheap with the likes of Ice Ice Baby, Blame it on the Rain, and the Macarena. Some truly horrible songs have captured the North American audience more than once, and will continue to bewitch in the future. I don't get the Japanese obsession for Crayon Shinchan or Dragon Ball Z (mindless nonsense if you ask me), but to each their own.
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Doctor Nick
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06:57 PM on 10/08/2012
The song can only be interpreted as such because of the wider cultural context. Hence the article provides that context. Are you telling me that every example the author provided is an example of "overthinking" or a somehow selected sample?

You can certainly accuse Asian men of being "overly sensitive" about their view that popular culture in North America routinely emasculates Asian men, but that falls into the same category of accusing blacks of being "overly sensitive" about racial stereotypes directed at them (or political dogwhistles) or accusing women of being "overly sensitive" to sexism of various kinds. In the end it is possible for this song to both be a crappy one-hit wonder like those others, while still being popular in part because it plays into a common stereotype - the geeky Asian.
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Chunkylover54
me are no nice guy
08:32 PM on 10/08/2012
Well if it isnt mr McCraig, with a leg for an arm and an arm for a leg!!
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sgillhoolley
Occupy the discussion.
10:21 PM on 10/08/2012
Funny, when I think Asian, I do not tend to think geeky.  I think of Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, the samurai, the ninja, Shaolin Monks, and Thugee Assassins.  I guess we all come at it from a different perspective, and projecting your own cultural stereotypes onto the intentions of others is unlikely to be accurate.