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westcoastkid
10:51 PM on 11/20/2012
Legalize. Allow people to grow their own and trade amongst friends with no regulation at all. If you want to start a business producing or marketing cannabis in large scales, you need a license, inspections, and you need to pay taxes. If you break the rules (i.e. sell to minors) you pay a steep fine. If it happens again, you lose your license. It is very simple. We have a very workable model in place - alcohol. Why reinvent the wheel?
10:47 PM on 11/20/2012
Like it did in China during the latter part of the Qing Dynasty?
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cameron d
Good Guys Win
10:15 PM on 11/20/2012
Bringing in tax revenue and hurting illegal drug trade: only what we've been saying for decades.
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Burlesque Lea
the dog is the only animal that has seen his god
10:12 PM on 11/20/2012
Marijuana is not the cure to your low self esteem, and the money it's legalization may produce is not the solution to the global economy recession.
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westcoastkid
10:29 PM on 11/20/2012
Neither of which were claimed by the article.... What was your point?
10:40 PM on 11/20/2012
And the solution isn't losing money arresting, prosecuting and imprisoning people associated with the plant.
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10:10 PM on 11/20/2012
What would be the value of pot if legalized? If most could grow it then the value could fall drastically and the tax revenue overestimated. Perhaps the real benefit would be savings in policing and proper attention paid to more important criminal matters.
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opprobrious
More speech. Less Flagging.
10:54 PM on 11/20/2012
The elimination of organized crime's current monopoly for starters.
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1846
Deir Yassin Survivor
10:09 PM on 11/20/2012
This is going to hurt the mafia, so don't hold your breath on any politicians in Ottawa approving it.
10:22 PM on 11/20/2012
and all the dumb dumb lazy people growing it,legalize it, so these bums have to work and pay taxes.
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Paul Ca
11:27 PM on 11/20/2012
and support you.
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Dick Fancy
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12:01 AM on 11/21/2012
Not everyone that grows pot is dumb and/or lazy.
It's a weed, it grows fairly easy, and if you're faced with the choice of interacting with a shady dealer vs. not having that experience, I think it's an easy choice to make.
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rotary
canucklehead
10:36 PM on 11/20/2012
Ottawa might, but Quebec is a different story.
12:15 AM on 11/21/2012
rotary---kebec is already stoned--they don't need any more help
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colpy
10:07 PM on 11/20/2012
WAY past time the gov't got out of our liquor cabinet, or pot can....whatever.

The 1972 LeDain Commission advised legalization.....so don't hold your breath...:)
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carledgar
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10:04 PM on 11/20/2012
It would also significantly reduce the amounts spent on policing and further the amounts spent on court cases, including the Courtroom itself, judges' time, Crown prosecution time, miscellaneous Court employees time and on and on.

It would also reduce the perennial backlogs that Courts in most - perhaps all - jurisdictions continually suffer
09:32 PM on 11/20/2012
As any rural teacher in BC could tell you, a lot of students don't get their new school gear until well into November. Just as most statisician could also confirm that there are a lot of people not showing up in the unemployment figures and retailers across the board are very conscious of business that is driven by the marijuana trade. Who is losing out on the hundreds of millions currently circulating in the BC economy? Over the decades BC has developed a trade in cannabis that is a world brand. It is unlikely that we will see full legalization because it would be impossible to replace a business that evolved under extremely difficlt circumstances that is so resilient and well evolved. The answer is more likely in what we essentially have, a defacto decriminalization. Keep a low profile, keep the violence out fo the business and steer clear of young people. The currency that is circulated throughout the BC economy from marijuana has the best multiplier effect, it is spent into the economy and circulates freely. Why fix was is not broken. Everything can be fine tuned, Don't fix was ain't broken.
10:24 PM on 11/20/2012
your a grower,your not paying your fair share of taxes,.
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Dick Fancy
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12:02 AM on 11/21/2012
Look around, the facts stated above are available in the public domain... not just to growers.
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Rhiness
09:10 PM on 11/20/2012
Interesting that economists and/or the editor of this article completely overlook a very important factor; how much is it going to cost to run such a program. Governments can't operate a coffee maker cost effectively. Bring in all the revenue you want, but if it isn't break even or profit than it's not worth it (or you privatize).
12:30 AM on 11/21/2012
rhiness---
how much does it cost to 'run such a program'' as legalizing alcohol/tobacco ? Pot will more than 'break even' if it is legalized---taxation--'allowed' industry--employment--
What's the 'difference' between- 'smoke--booze-- pot'? other than a 'moral' judgement??
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Rhiness
01:21 PM on 11/21/2012
Alcohol was centrally managed in BC for many years and resulted in a loss every year.  Nowhere in my statement did I mention a comparison to alcohol or tobacco; not sure where you got that from.
08:25 PM on 11/20/2012
Perhaps Hostess Foods should delay bankruptcy proceedings.
compro01
Conservatism : Policy-based evidence making
09:16 PM on 11/20/2012
Wouldn't help them much. Pretty much everything sold under the Hostess and associated brands in Canada is actually make by Saputo, who license the brands from them.
09:36 PM on 11/20/2012
Aww.

Now you have to go all technical and stuff.
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carledgar
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10:05 PM on 11/20/2012
You just reminded me that marijuana helps the food industry necause marijuana users often get munchies that would make locusts blanch
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Douglas Sinclair
Phi Zappa Krappa
01:31 AM on 11/21/2012
Blanched locusts in rice cakes by the new line "Hostess Healthies". Betcha can't eat just one!
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sdgreen
08:19 PM on 11/20/2012
The construction of the northern pipeline also would bring in billions, but the environmentalists will not allow. Funny though how the environmentalists seem to love the pollution created by pot!
08:28 PM on 11/20/2012
I'm pretty sure that cleaning up empty munchie wrappers is considerably easier than scrubbing bitumen out of the soil.
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the3rdmuskateer
08:53 PM on 11/20/2012
It would bring in billions... Until murphy's law strikes.
Then we're REALLY in for a big surprise.
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Warren Yuill
Jesus Built My Hot-Rod
08:12 PM on 11/20/2012
Sales of those little green houses will go through the roof and everybody who wants pot will have pot.
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07:55 PM on 11/20/2012
This study was brought to you by 5 guys with a bong in a 69 Chevy van. Legalize pot & expect the following to occur.

1 - Legalize pot & people will simply grow their own. Pot is as easy to grow as tomatoes.
2 - People who already grow their own will grow more to sell to friends & family.
3 - Drug cartels will lower prices to sell to an even larger pot smoking base once legalized.
4 - Policing costs will jump thousands of times as everyone becomes suspected growers.
5 - Ride programs will need to be expanded as people treat pot like alcohol was treated pre-1980s.
6 - MASD (mothers against stoned drivers) will be launched. MADD is currently 100% funded by government, as will be MASD once launched.
7 - Courts will be inundated with workplace firing cases, as employers fire people for being high on the job which endangers lives.
8 - School board spending on security will increase hundreds of times as pot proliferates the education system.

There will be increased policing costs, increased court costs, increased health care & education costs. Along with billions lost annually to lower productivity in all sectors of the economy. Foreign investment in Canada will dry up as countries steer clear of the legalized pot zone. Tourism will be the only sector of the economy to see growth. Yet the additional revenue brought in by tourism will be lost to increased policing costs.
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Old Glenridge
in the Great White North
08:09 PM on 11/20/2012
You are wrong on so many points. So I will just pick two.

>>>1 - Legalize pot & people will simply grow their own. Pot is as easy to grow as tomatoes

Wrong, Tomatoes are far easier grow. Good weed is difficult to grow. It take some trial and error to learn it, plus a significant investment.

You could have a still in your basement to make your own whiskey, yet very few people choose to do that. Same thing here, it will just be easier to buy it at a liquor store or wherever. People choose convenience for a lot of products and this will not be different.

>>>>4 - Policing costs will jump thousands of times as everyone becomes suspected growers.

Ya, like cops don't already feel that way.

Issue personal grow licenses. If you get caught growing for commercial purposes without a license, issue the grower a very large fine.
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Just a question ... does your income in any way come from the War on a Plant?
Because you really sound like you have a vested interest in the status quo.
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sdgreen
08:23 PM on 11/20/2012
But the largest down side would be the creation of a whole new government bureaucracy to manage pot. That I do not want.
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09:01 PM on 11/20/2012
Nonsense, I grow my own pot back in the 70s, nothing to it. If your trying to grow an acre of pot sure that's hard, not so for a couple dozen plants.

We have gathered enough statistics over the years to know precisely how many people grow pot illegally (not who) & budget police forces with that information. Once legalized those statistics are tossed out the window, everyone once pot is legalized will have great reason to grow their own. That reason is money & that will result in increased policing budgets for a solid decade or two until they once again have accurate statistics.

I am day trader & currently retired, I believe pot should be decriminalized not legalized.
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Hjorlejf
08:11 PM on 11/20/2012
A few problems with your argument. If people are so easily able to grow their own or obtain it from friends/family who grow, there would be no business for drug cartels and legalization would severely cut into their profits. People growing plants for personal use should not be pursued at all, plus regular users would not be pursued - we would be freeing up our police for more serious offences. As for point 8, children have always been able to obtain illicit drugs more easily than licit ones.
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09:10 PM on 11/20/2012
Most people are to timid & afraid to grow their own pot because it is illegal & cultivating pot comes with serious criminal charges where as simply possession charges do not.

If legalized they would have to allow for some individual growing as the bills being proposed by both U.S. states include.

It's not that some growing would be allowed which will increase policing costs, it's the fact they will need to police it thoroughly to ensure people don't grow more than allowed. That means every home now becomes a potential illegal grow operation, rather than the small percentage police currently watch for.
07:30 PM on 11/20/2012
The main reason why it should be regulated is that it could be free of all the toxic pesticides and herbicides and growth additives that are sold in most grow shops. Most of it contains toxic residue from improper application of, or using non food crop pesticides and herbicides. There are ways to grow it so that the lab sample is certified pure, growers must be educated and follow procedure. Also lab testing should be done on each crop. The average lab sample contains over 3 pages of contaminants present. There should be 0. Regulatory measures for quality must be put in place.
Just trying to look out for the 366,000 people in BC. Something that our Guv. should be doing eh!
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Mad Hatter 1
07:33 PM on 11/20/2012
Tell that to Monsanto.
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sdgreen
08:24 PM on 11/20/2012
You are saying that pot is toxic then such should be outlawed!
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carledgar
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10:08 PM on 11/20/2012
oh you get a lot of that stuff in vegetables and fruits too
01:17 AM on 11/21/2012
sdgreen

I suggest you check out the 'things' that are sprayed-- that are toxic-- on your lettuce/tomatoes/carrots/potoatoes/celery/radishes/spinach/onions/corn/beans
etc etc etc and then get back to us with the same comment