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11:40 AM on 12/04/2012
according to the graph --------the tough on crime boys are 20 years too late

so the only conclusion --they want full occupancy when they privatize the accomodation chain
12:29 PM on 12/04/2012
problem with that is not enough crime is done to do it
its gonna be a mulroney moment when they cant fill them up
and they cant trust me
all the so called gangs have to do is declare a year a peace and you screw over the harper govt....
haha
and believe me those gangs get it.
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AfzaalKhan
10:54 AM on 12/04/2012
Seriously I moved to canada when liberal took over from Mulroney, economy got better, crimes rates went down, we had surpluses. With conservative in power both are bad again how they are better at managing economy and are better at tackling crimes, I saw same thing in US. How in the world people keep voting conservative when they always mess up on both accounts.
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Tony frm Banff
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11:01 AM on 12/04/2012
mmmmm, never looked at it that way, intersesting. Maybe because conservatism brings out a DEVISIVE and hatefull society. I've always thought a Liberal government brings about a more caring and loving society.

F and F AfzaalKhan!
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Warren Yuill
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11:15 AM on 12/04/2012
Moved back from where?
And you seriously moved from Canada just because of a change in Government?
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tokenblackman
11:21 AM on 12/04/2012
One of the reasons I moved from Alberta to BC is because at least here in BC people will kick out incompetent gov't once in a while.
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AfzaalKhan
01:31 PM on 12/04/2012
No man i meant when I moved to Canada it coincided with change of govt from conservatives to liberals.
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FredSanders
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10:51 AM on 12/04/2012
"Spoons should be banned because they cause obesity, is that the next step?"

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Where do you being with a comment like that, except to begin and end with laughter?
Any of the drugs used that resulted in Ted Nugent should be banned.
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FredSanders
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10:48 AM on 12/04/2012
People with knives don't kill as much people with guns do kill.
Something to do with the fact that guns were made with the sole purpose of killing may have something to do with that.
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colpy
11:10 AM on 12/04/2012
The worst murder in Canadian history left 37 dead.

No firearms were used.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Bird_Caf%C3%A9_fire
11:58 AM on 12/04/2012
well shi t....lets go get some guns then yeeeeeeehaaaaaw
12:32 PM on 12/04/2012
really so we have al capone running around shooting dozens if not thousands of people?
wake up and quit lying go get some real facts and realize your more likely to be hit by lightning then a bullet
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FredSanders
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01:06 PM on 12/04/2012
You point being(?).....because there appears to be none.
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Warren Yuill
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10:47 AM on 12/04/2012
Kinda makes sense why Alberta would be right up there.
All them young people making lots of money, too much debt, gambling, drugs, long hours on shift.
A lot of young lives, being lived, wide open.
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11:15 AM on 12/04/2012
And no women! That's what I heard from a friend who went to work construction up North, apparently it really screws with the heads of some of the guys up there
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Warren Yuill
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11:30 AM on 12/04/2012
It is brutal.I lived up in The Fort for 20 years.When I met my wife, the last place I would even think of taking her for a date would be a bar. Too many hammer heads wandering around  thinking cause they gota pocket ful of cash they can say anything they want to a woman.The competition for a womans attention up there was freaking intense.Lots and lots of fights over women.
12:33 PM on 12/04/2012
yes yes we need to get some hookers and pimps to move up there....
lol might even solve the importing of immigrants issue
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FredSanders
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10:46 AM on 12/04/2012
Despite annual fluctuations, the overall homicide rate has remained relatively stable over the past decade, after a steady decline from the mid-1970s.
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Darn, and it seemed to be such effective fear mongering, until one reads that. AND that graph took the fear right out of me.
The Press is really falling down on the job these days, what with no war or looming economic crisis to gin up the fear and ratings.
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Harry Bradford
10:39 AM on 12/04/2012
Canadian murder rates continue to be about 1/3 of American rates. 30-something % of Canadians own firearms compared to 88 % of Americans. Interesting smilarities, don't you think?
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colpy
11:13 AM on 12/04/2012
Here is a list of countries by rate of gun ownership:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country

I challenge you to find ANY correlation between that and murder rate by country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Good luck.
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Harry Bradford
10:19 AM on 12/05/2012
I have no intention of taking up your challenge because my focus is on the fundamental difference between the Canadian and American cultural mindset. Check out American history for stories like Custer's last stand. Then check out Canadian history for stories like ONE RCMP officer bringing a whole first nation across the border peaceably. The American creed has always been, "Shoot first and ask questions later". When I was a kid, my American cousins were ALWAYS, and I mean ALWAYS, talking about how they could come to Canada and take over with their guns. As an adult, hearing our North Carolinian salesperson say, "Canadians? The only thing I don't like about Canadians is you don't carry guns and you don't spank your kids" is typical of the American attitude. Year after year after year, American gun ownership is triple, murder by gun is triple, and the murder rate is triple, that of Canada. The cultural correlation is right there before your eyes. And increases of gun-related murders in Canada is related to illegal weapons coming from guess where?
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Harry Bradford
10:30 AM on 12/05/2012
2007
Canada 1.6 murders per 100 000 actual 554
United States 4.2 murders per 100 000 actual 12,996
The States was down that year. There are usually 18,000+.
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Poster999
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11:16 AM on 12/04/2012
It's probably a factor but there are certainly other important ones like population density, amount of poverty, demographics, average age, etc. Also culture would be a factor I would think.
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Harry Bradford
11:23 AM on 12/04/2012
The most important factor is culture. Toronto has about the same population density as Chicago, but 45 murders in 2011 compared to 423 in the Windy City.
11:52 AM on 12/04/2012
Nobody ever takes into account that in the U.S. there is not one generation that has not been alive during some kind of war. Their culture is based on war.
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turkeylurky
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10:37 AM on 12/04/2012
It is also interesting that HP would put a picture of a high powered rifle shell on this article when the article makes it clear that all the log arms in Canada (rifles and shotguns) account for only 9% of all homicides.
Why not a pic of a knife?
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Poster999
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11:00 AM on 12/04/2012
Good point. I guess they most feel a bullet will garner more clicks. They probably had a focus group weigh in.
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tokenblackman
11:22 AM on 12/04/2012
It does not sell as well.
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MissingTheExpos
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10:33 AM on 12/04/2012
One of the poor side effects of the oil patch is that it brings in a lot of bad seeds. Not the rig pigs per se, but the camp followers, for lack of a better term. Ft. McMurray is a modern day Dawson City and as a friend of mine once put it when I asked him about life in the oil patch he simply responded: "I didn't know there was that much cocaine in Canada."
12:35 PM on 12/04/2012
now you know why redford is so crazy in defending herself
and why jaffer was caught with it
and why prolly half there party is stoned on coke right now....
10:33 AM on 12/04/2012
"The rate of homicides involving handguns has also generally been declining since reaching a peak in 1991, although they account for about two-thirds of all firearm homicides."

Is it just me, or does this sentence not make sense?
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turkeylurky
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10:44 AM on 12/04/2012
Makes perfect sense. Homicide by all types of firearms (hand guns, rifles, shotguns, assault rifles, etc) account for 27% of all homicides. 2/3rds of those firearm deaths are from hand guns. 1/3 of those deaths (or 9% of total homicides) are from rifles and shotguns..

Your confusion probably stems from the fact that so much attention has been paid to the LGR (long gun registry) as the mechanism for reducing homicides, when, in fact, long guns play only a minor role in the overall death count.
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Tony frm Banff
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11:06 AM on 12/04/2012
And those LG homicides were domestic homicides.......that is still too many.
11:21 AM on 12/09/2012
Ah thanks. I was confused because I didn't notice the distinction made between stats on handguns & overall fireams.
10:31 AM on 12/04/2012
Those numbers are interesting but once again confirm that Canada's homicide rate has been falling for quite a while.

The intimate partner rate increasing is quite concerning & confirms that Gov't is not doing enough to protect those in busive relationships.
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Tony frm Banff
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11:07 AM on 12/04/2012
Very concerning this domestic abuse.
10:29 AM on 12/04/2012
Oh Winnipeg... why do I live here again? Oh, right... once you're in, you can never get out. Even as cynical as I am, and even living at the edge of the city away from the crime, sometimes I'm still scared. Which makes me angry.

Time to keep looking for work elsewhere...
12:13 PM on 12/04/2012
If Winnipeg scares you then don't head out to Alberta.
12:36 PM on 12/04/2012
move ....
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turkeylurky
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10:22 AM on 12/04/2012
"Stabbings accounted for virtually the entire increase in homicides in 2011, with 39 more stabbings.

Overall, stabbings accounted for 35 per cent of homicides, firearms for 27 per cent, beatings for 22 per cent and strangulation for seven per cent."

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No doubt that Muclair will also want to implement a Short Knife Registry (SKR) when he reimplements the LGR if he gets to power.
And there can be no doubt in anyone's mind that it will be as effective as the LGR was.
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DoctorHorror
10:28 AM on 12/04/2012
And Harper will scream we need more private prisons! Prisoners for Profit has started in Canada under the Harper Regime.
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turkeylurky
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10:46 AM on 12/04/2012
These's something seriously wrong with you. Get some professional help before you hurt yourself or some one else.
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sdgreen
10:48 AM on 12/04/2012
Where?