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bubbles3660
Semper in excremento sum solum profunditas variat.
01:17 PM on 12/10/2012
I worship the IKEA Monkey now. (Makes sign of the Allen key.)
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DoctorHorror
01:16 PM on 12/10/2012
At one time religion was a neccessity for human surivial. Mainly because we are a species that needs to categorize and provide explanation to our very existence. However as we advance and get a better under stanind our everything works, religion only becomes a mechnasim for control and manipulation. the very idea because a money making gimmick for the very crafty, while taking advantage of the elss fortunate.

There are so many examples where Christianity has held advancements back only because the Pope feared that he'd lose weatlehr and control. Mulsim religions also exhibit this idea and control and discrimination as well.

the bottom line is you don't need to worship a god to be a good person. As subjective mortality is, we can draw the lines ourselves of what is right and wrong.
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giantsteps
01:16 PM on 12/10/2012
Read the book by Christopher Hitchen called God is not Great. It says it all.
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Free Again
04:08 PM on 12/10/2012
No, that book doesn't say it all.
01:09 PM on 12/10/2012
any religion-----where the head guy says----

""i know---- i'll incarnate my son on earth and the people will crucify him and that will atone for their sins ""

has a serious credibility problem
01:18 PM on 12/10/2012
The problem I've always had is having to accept stuff as a matter of faith. I'm not able to do that.
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Free Again
04:09 PM on 12/10/2012
Sure you do. You accept scientific explanations without having done the experiments yourself. You have faith that other people didn't fudge the facts in that regard. Even scientists can be unscrupulous because ego is always involved.
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04:14 PM on 12/10/2012
Good point. But, creating the human race from scratch didn't work and destroying the entire world through a flood didn't work either. I guess the head guy was just trying something new to get respect, kind of like the late Rodney Dangerfield.
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01:00 PM on 12/10/2012
As other commenters here have indicated, the youth of today can confirm all of the facts on their Blackberrys.
But, that is exactly where the roads split. Facts are facts. Faith is faith; it's a belief, a belief that cannot necessarily be proven to your satisfaction. Therefore you reject that belief. And that is perfectly acceptable to you. If so, so be it.
Live and let live. Have enough respect for yourself to have some respect for others. I know that I don't even come close to fitting into the traditional mould within the church that I was raised either. I just haven't let go of my faith, my beliefs.
So, even if God doesn't fit into your life, He still fits into mine. Don't condemn me for that and I won't condemn you for your beliefs either. Live and let live.
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01:16 PM on 12/10/2012
Exactly. Well said.
01:48 PM on 12/10/2012
As long as you can do that quietly at home without bothering me, that is fine. You can believe in mermaids, unicorns, leprechauns or any number of things, as long as you don't insist on having symbols of your belief displayed in public or taught in schools as a credible theory of existence. Nor do I want to live by the rules you happen to believe a god has made. Unfortunately, the track record of religion tells me most of you will at some point try to make me live by your rules and treat your beliefs as credible.
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Free Again
04:11 PM on 12/10/2012
But isn't that a rule, forcing other people to hide symbols and mentio of their belief systems?
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04:16 PM on 12/10/2012
100% agree.
12:59 PM on 12/10/2012
Religion is dying and good riddance.

One of the biggest and simplest reasons is access to information. Religion has been so successful over the last few thousand years mainly because of factors such as isolation, ignorance and indoctrination of children who will readily believe whatever their parents tell them.

With the invention of two major forms of information and communication, television and the internet, people are now (in general) becoming less isolated, less ignorant and can think or find answers for themselves.

Thousands of years ago we knew very little about how the universe works and most was attributed to "God did it." Now the opposite is true....we know much about the universe and very little can be attributed to their magic man in the sky (although they still try).

The kids growing up today, except for the most heartily brainwashed or those who can't think for themselves very well, just aren't having it. They hear the silly fairy tales, the ridiculous rationalizations, the bigotry and none of it makes sense. So they do a little research on the internet and find the correct answers. The internet is truly where religions come to die.

Yep, religion is dying. Amen to that.
12:53 PM on 12/10/2012
I believe that A Perfect Circle's version of "Imagine" does this thread justice: http://youtu.be/dunKAwRN3P8
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12:44 PM on 12/10/2012
It really angers me that so many Christians won't acknowledge evolution, just because the bible says so.
What about the fact that until recently, both the Old and New Testament said that the earth was the centre of the universe?
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Simon Wagstaff
Friday the 13th comes on a Wednesday this month
12:51 PM on 12/10/2012
Next you'll try and tell the tale that the earth isn't flat...
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Zozzer
Dum Spiro Spero - While I breath, I hope.
01:16 PM on 12/10/2012
It amazes me in the minds of many Christians who claim to use the Bible as the literal word of God, but they will pick and choose which bits are and aren't. Genesis creation story is literal, yet Polygamy is just a cultural construct.

My funnest rebuttal to the earth was created in 6 days is to look at the hebrew, and the word used in Genesis in Hebrew isn't day, it just is a period of time, unspecified. Day is used in English and other Translations. More for effect and tradition the word day is used, as it sounds more awesome to speak in days than in periods of time...

*cue rebuttals...*
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12:44 PM on 12/10/2012
Time to cut the churches loose and give them the honour of paying taxes.

Religion is growing more and more irrelevant in large part to Gen-X who have reaised their kids absent the indoctrination.

Who would really believe all the crazy things religion pushes if you don't start with the child?
01:20 PM on 12/10/2012
It would help if the churches started paying their fair share for sure.
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Liz Wilson 2
“a small group can change the world
01:36 PM on 12/10/2012
No taxes is a small way to support the many charities that opperate out of the churches and with funds from the membership.

We could tax churches, most of them would most likely not generate suffient funds to be taxable anyway.
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Darlene1964
03:03 PM on 12/10/2012
The catholic church is one of the richest organizations in the world. If they sold a small part of their collection to feed the hungry I might have more respect for religion in general. I can't understand how they can justify holding onto artwork while the faithful starve. Stuff like this is why people no longer want to believe.
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Barb Bissonnette
Political junkie in rehab
12:40 PM on 12/10/2012
This isn't just a Gen Y thing. Those under 25 who've never been a member of a church? Well their parents aren't either. I'm in my 50s and I've drifted slowly but surely away, even from a fairly progressive church. The fight over truly being a welcoming church to ALL who seek common worship (i.e. gender, orientation, size of your wallet) just got to be too much. I hope they enjoy their church, and the back-stabbing and whispering that goes on. I used to think it was just one church -- it isn't. It's all of them.
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ren soloman
12:40 PM on 12/10/2012
Good riddance, seriously good riddance forever to the church.
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chromium dullard
shiny shiny shiny
12:39 PM on 12/10/2012
Religion doesn't matter. I have attended church before, although I never really believed. Who cares about an old fantasy book that's littered with plot holes?
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Joeyj1220
01:40 PM on 12/10/2012
I felt the same way about Twilight
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Achilles Wrath
Nullius in verba
12:30 PM on 12/10/2012
Even religious people are atheists; Christians don't believe in the Great Manitou, Lord Ganesha, Krishna, Zeus, Kwaku Ananase, Nanuk, Ometeotl, Quetzalcoatl, or Vishnu. Atheists simply believe in ONE fewer God than Christians (or Muslims or Jews). Why should I believe that YOUR God (whichever that may be) is the "right" one? I'll stick to treating people as well as I can and being honest. If there IS a creator of the Universe, I hope she understands that my unbelief was sprung from my confusion....
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Simon Wagstaff
Friday the 13th comes on a Wednesday this month
12:52 PM on 12/10/2012
no, not really, but I get what your trying to say, atheists don't believe any god, goddess or pantheon of them exist...
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jsehgal
I am asking for more soup.
01:05 PM on 12/10/2012
Atheists only say that when there is material evidence of any god, they will acknowledge its existence. Till that time they want to be left alone.
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Achilles Wrath
Nullius in verba
01:27 PM on 12/10/2012
Christians don't believe in any god but their own either. Neither do Muslims. Or Jews. So, in a manner of speaking, they are also atheists, with one exception.
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Liz Wilson 2
“a small group can change the world
01:47 PM on 12/10/2012
Interesting comment. Personally I think many of these are the same although culturally nuanced.
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Achilles Wrath
Nullius in verba
02:42 PM on 12/10/2012
But their followers will swear up and down and possibly kill you in order to "prove" that they are not. Many cultures are polytheistic and don't care to "win converts". The three main monotheistic religions, however, claim to be THE right one. Christianity and Islam in particular claim to be THE WAY and that all others are "false". They try to "prove" that theirs is the only way and that without "their" God, you will burn in hell forever. I'll take my chances...
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bigmovieman
living free without the 1st and 2nd amendment
12:28 PM on 12/10/2012
While I do believe rational thought is growing and while this news is good I fear that on a global level we are still very much behind the times. We must also not let this growing trend of tolerant secularism blind us to foreign fundamentalism creeping across our borders, threatening not only our safety but this positive trend towards rationalism. While all religions hinder progress to some degree we must not pretend they do so equally...