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TonyOnly
Truth matters.
08:27 AM on 12/07/2012
For the owners, it's about playing hockey. For the players, it's about getting as much as they can from the owners.

If the owners wanted to squeeze every last penny out of the players, they would've waited til next summer when the players will be more desperate after having lost a year's pay..

Fehr is taking advantage of the owners desire to have a season. If you're someone who is fed up and just wants them to play, Fehr is definitely the bad guy.

The owners are not stupid. They know when they've been disrespected. And now they likely will wait til next summer.
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valar84
09:31 AM on 12/07/2012
Who do people go see play? Players, or owners? Who ends up at 40 with chronic pain because of years of physical games, players or owners?

Who deserves the more money, players or owners?

The owners don't care about hockey. For most of them, owning a team is just a hobby or a status thing, they got money coming in from a variety of sources. For players, hockey is basically all they have. The owners created this conflict in a greedy grab at money, they want to break players' contracts, not because they don't make money, but because they want ever more of it. This is typical of the North American rich, everything is never enough, they just want to screw their employees as much as they can, and if someone points out their greed, they cry like babies that they're being "disrespected" as if everyone should bow their head to them 'cause they're rich.
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sgillhoolley
Occupy the discussion.
09:32 AM on 12/07/2012
Let the owners lose hundreds of millions of dollars...that will teach those poor players. I think most players will be able to weather the lost income...and some are already earning money playing in Europe, or even volunteering their time to coach some young kids at a local rink. The owners care about the money, or they would have given in to one of the reasonable demands made by the players. In the end, the owners do not play hockey. They run the business of hockey. Players would love to just concentrate on playing, but hockey is more of a business than it is a sport these days, and it is not the fault of players for that. I think the players should form their own hockey league, and let the owners keep the logos and trademarks of their playerless franchise. With the players being the owners ticket prices could come down.
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Victor Saymong
Canuck up Toronto way
08:24 AM on 12/07/2012
Bettman shook with rage? Too bad his head didn't explode...maybe then we'd get somewhere with negotiations.
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AllanHunkin
Create Elegant Solutions
09:29 AM on 12/07/2012
I concur.
09:33 AM on 12/07/2012
Who wouldnt dealing with a tool like Fehr!
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Victor Saymong
Canuck up Toronto way
10:38 AM on 12/07/2012
If Fehr's a tool, then so is Bettman. He's just a windbag shill for the owners.
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Machine Head
No Facebook; No comments.
08:22 AM on 12/07/2012
How can you not enjoy watching Bettman's little head bobbing around as he seathes in anger. What a weasel!
08:09 AM on 12/07/2012
Wasn't it Gretzky who convinced Canadians that it would be so much better for the sport if we let the Americans take over, expand all these teams. Now look what we've got. Watered down drivel. The top notch players don't shine anymore because they are surrounded by second rate players, all in the attempt to meet the number of players needed to fill these teams. But Gretzky did quite well out of the idea now didn't he? He's no hero to me.
08:05 AM on 12/07/2012
More first world problems of the super rich. What a bunch of out of touch egomaniacs.
07:50 AM on 12/07/2012
What these guys don't understand is what they are now actually negotiating is the Death of a Franchise, as times get tougher people simply don't have the money to see Live Hockey games anymore and the callousness that both parties treat their fans with, will simply be the end of what was a great Canadian Sport. A Pox on both their houses.
08:07 AM on 12/07/2012
When Winnipeg finally got the Jets back, they sold close to 15,000 season tickets in less than 3 minutes after they went on sale, even at ridiculously high pricing.

The NHL will survive this, except, perhaps, a few teams in places where professional hockey never belonged in the first place, like Phoenix. Hopefully, Saskatoon, Hamilton, and Quebec City will get franchises soon.
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sgillhoolley
Occupy the discussion.
09:35 AM on 12/07/2012
I enjoyed hockey back in the day when we had a Whales conference, and people won the Smythe trophy. Now we have the eastern league, or whatever they call it (I stopped watching over a decade ago), and I suppose they award trophies like the WalMart Best Player or Sunoco Goalie of the Year. Although the rivalry was Montreal vs Boston, I enjoyed the Montreal vs Quebec games just as much. Those Nordiques were some big fellas.
07:42 AM on 12/07/2012
Well really, who cares now! Too much greed on both sides. I'm not saying I will never watch another NHL Game, but the majority of my Hockey experiences shall be at my local Arena. So, Sydney et.al, take your Millions and shove it up your collective Asses!!!
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Warren Yuill
Jesus Built My Hot-Rod
07:26 AM on 12/07/2012
Why fell all over ourselves trying to sell the game to americans
And they bought it.
Now it's no longer "our" game.
If it was we'd be watching hockey.
Instead we get watch a bunch of corporate suits acting like they were on some BS TV show.
07:14 AM on 12/07/2012
Don Cherry...where arewhen we need you?!!!
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Angus12
06:39 AM on 12/07/2012
Shut'er down. The season's toast. See you next year.... maybe.
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Poster999
A promise made is a debt unpaid.
06:34 AM on 12/07/2012
So sad to see what the NHL has become. Just a business. Then they will turn around and say it's all about the fans. Yea right.
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Awetitu
My Micro-Bio is empty? O noes!
08:55 AM on 12/07/2012
Yeah, they will. Almost guaranteed.

If they REALLY want to make it about the fans, then make the games affordable. Better yet, get rid of f#$%^&g corporate seats and sell more for fans. There are just over 2,000 seats released for each Toronto Maple Leafs game, the other 17,000 are corporate or season seats and there's a 5 year waiting list, at least.

I find it very hard to drum up sympathy for 4th line benchwarmers that make over 10x my salary as a starting point. If you can't live, and be happy, on $525,000.00 a year, then there's something seriously wrong. Then again, my idea of happy and an NHLers idea of happy are probably 2 different things...
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Poster999
A promise made is a debt unpaid.
09:11 AM on 12/07/2012
Amen to that.
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Warren Yuill
Jesus Built My Hot-Rod
06:26 AM on 12/07/2012
Maybe now ballroom dancing will get the media exposure it truly deserves.
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Stormlight
07:08 AM on 12/07/2012
Well maybe Toronto can actually focus on the one winning team it has: The Toronto Rock Lacrosse Team. That team has won more championships in the past decade than all the other sports teams combined.
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greysilk
07:43 AM on 12/07/2012
That must be because maple leafs sports and entertainment doesn't own them.
07:09 AM on 12/07/2012
and a one, and a two........
05:58 AM on 12/07/2012
Here's the thing: With the lockout ongoing, the players aren't being paid. The municipally owned venues aren't being maintained by the teams. Staffs have been cut, and the NHL still gets to sell and profit from merchandise, and insurance will kick in if the season is cancelled.

Simply? The owners profit more when the teams are off the ice than on. There is no incentive to settle this, and in fact, quite a bit of incentive to carry it on.

That all said; Who cares? While I took the time to make a comment, I won't take the time to follow the NHL anymore. Sport that people take part in rather than sport they just watch, has far more value, and I thank the NHL for reminding me of that.
06:55 AM on 12/07/2012
Also, Bettman still gets paid.
07:11 AM on 12/07/2012
Bettman should be stuffed...
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shanester
Bedrock & Barack Rock!
05:46 AM on 12/07/2012
I love hockey but I'm tuning out with this lockout nonsense

PS I was more interested in the figure skaters in the background that Kane's comments :)
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utalkin2me
Ph.D anthro and behavioural sciences
05:44 AM on 12/07/2012
heres an idea: start a new league....every player gets a 1 million dollar salary...and bonuses based on performance...(every positon will be graded seperately)...if a player isnt performing to his ability, he is cut...just like in the nfl....3 year deals...tops....no touch icing in the regular season...playoffs stay the same...take out the stupidest rule in all of sports: the instigator rule...all drafted players do not start in the league until they are at least 19 or 20....just a thought
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Awetitu
My Micro-Bio is empty? O noes!
09:03 AM on 12/07/2012
I think that's a great idea. Then the sole determiner of franchise performance is based on win/loss and their ability to put butts in seats. No more season ticket holder cushion to reward bad performance, strictly pay as you go.

We can monetize performance for forwards based on goals and assists, on blocked shots and +/- for defencemen, save % for goalies, win/loss for coaches, man hours lost to injury for trainers, and set gate prices at fixes, affordable rates for arenas.