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mchlmack
Ban Public Whistling
10:04 PM on 12/06/2012
I only care about the workers and businesses that are suffering because of this rich boy battle.
09:18 PM on 12/06/2012
Just cancel the season and get it over with...
08:53 PM on 12/06/2012
Long past time for the players to decertify their union and follow the lead of the NFL players...anti-trust suits will settle the matter.
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TonyOnly
Truth matters.
09:31 PM on 12/06/2012
The courts ruled against the NFL. The judge said decertification is not meant to be used as a negotiating tactic.

And if the courts grant decertification, then the players would lose their collective bargaining power. And the teams would just play with whatever players decided to be cooperative. And eventually, all of them would be. Unless they preferred flipping burgers.
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piceaglauca
The picture says it all....
08:52 PM on 12/06/2012
Personally I don't care what they decide. Since when should either side dictate the lives of the fans. Fans need to be indifferent and move on. Once no one cares, shows reactions, or moans they'll figure something out. It's all about money and when there isn't any left to spend they will be right back at it again. I can't wait to hear what Don Cherry has to say. Oh wait, Don Cherry won't be on, well maybe Kevin "O'Leary or Rick Mercer's rant.
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TonyOnly
Truth matters.
08:26 PM on 12/06/2012
For the players, losing money means accepting a 7% smaller share of revenue they haven't yet earned, but continues to grow.

Meanwhile 13 of 30 owners are losing millions every year on money they've actually already invested.

In 2 moves, the owners came 300 million in the players direction on "make whole." But they need cost certainty in CBA and player contract length to make that work. That's why the proposal is a package.

So for 1 extra year on the length of the CBA, and future player contract length that currently affects only 12% of NHLPA members, the players are refusing to play hockey.

Bottom line. Fehr is demanding the owners leave the back door open so the players can take more money than CBA is intended to give them.

So. Start over next summer. Maybe the players will be more reasonable after they've lost a year's worth of income.
10:36 PM on 12/06/2012
Because the NHL claims to be losing millions annually does not a fact make. Have you examined their books?
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TonyOnly
Truth matters.
10:53 PM on 12/06/2012
forbes.com/nhl  The Business of Hockey
 
Widely reported and accepted in the media, including CBC/TheNational, CTV, TSN etc.
 
13 of 30 NHL teams are losing a total of more than $100 million a year.
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TonyOnly
Truth matters.
11:10 PM on 12/06/2012
BTW, the NHL has never claimed to be losing money. The league only admits to earning a profit. Which is true.

The teams that are making a money are making more than the teams that are losing money. Most of the profit is concentrated among TOR, MTL, NYR, VAN, DET & EDM.

But a league where almost half the teams are continuously losing money is not financially healthy. Even if it is making a profit.
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BUTCHER99
07:56 PM on 12/06/2012
So as soon as Bettman shows up things fall apart again. the players move the owners dont.
The players should just announce that the season is cancelled and that they will not return to the bargaining table until the owners agree to their last offer.
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opprobrious
More speech. Less Flagging.
07:43 PM on 12/06/2012
No future seasons are imminent either.
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Driver-Eight
07:38 PM on 12/06/2012
The NHL as a brand is completely over. It is time to move along.
07:32 PM on 12/06/2012
I don't find it particularly surprising that it was only when Bettman and Fehr were allowed back in the room that Fehr said there's no deal imminent.

Anyone got the capital to start up a new hockey league yet?
04:15 PM on 12/06/2012
So... what's up with that?
Shouldn't the Harper Government have legislated those NHL players back to work and given the NHL owners a tax cut by now?
... them NHL players are ruining the economy... they ALMOST as bad as Pilots and Flight Attendants...(the Air Canada ones anyway...)
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opprobrious
More speech. Less Flagging.
07:44 PM on 12/06/2012
Professional hockey players don't provide an essential service???
09:05 PM on 12/06/2012
The pilots were ordered back to work on the assumption that a strike would hurt the economy. I'm sure that there are few bars, restaurants and hotels that would argue the economy is hurting.
11:02 AM on 12/17/2012
After the 9/11 attack, the government compensated the airlines that provided essential services, like in remote communities. Air Canada got almost nothing because everywhere they operate there is alternative service... The big excuse Lisa Raitt and her bunch used was that a strike at Air Canada would have adverse effects to the economy.
The NHL strike has just as much an adverse effect on the economy... arenas, parking lots, bars, restaurants, catering services, the entire alcohol industry... In fact if Tim Horton's goes on strike it would have adverse effects to the economy and there are a few people I know that consider Tim Horton's essential service.
Without any guidelines on how and were to apply back to work legislation, it looks like another vindictive and discriminatory practice the Harper Government applies whenever they feel like, with impunity of course!