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02:29 PM on 12/11/2012
Far, far, far, far too early... although there is a point to be made that by declaring his intentions so early, and given how little attention Canadians really pay attention to politics, the lustre might wear off before any election.
02:22 PM on 12/11/2012
Good, let him sit back for now, disappear from leadership talks. The country needs a strong left, not a left split 50-50 down the middle between Mulcair and Trudeau.
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03:24 PM on 12/11/2012
That would be great advice if the NDP were actually DOING anything significant.
02:02 PM on 12/11/2012
Mission accomplished. Now let's focus the vitriolic attacks on Marc Garneau.

Steve

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02:42 PM on 12/11/2012
Ah yes, the: He traveled to space, leaving Canada behind so he is not in this for you either, campaign ads.
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03:42 PM on 12/11/2012
*fade in from black back ground, various black and white recordings of Soviet cosmonaughts undergoing expariments and scientists sendign cute animals on one way trips to space*
*dare red print and ominious voice over*

"He SAYS he was only following orders... but could it be that he was just waaaiiiittting for the chance to look down on you all? All of us?
Who really needs to go to school for 10 years anyways?
Liberal elitists, like Marc Garneu"

*fade out, brifly flash moon landing denier website link*
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03:27 PM on 12/11/2012
The mission to dispatch with Mr. Trudeau is FAR from accomplished. I believe he will show that he has much more stamina than the last two sad LIberal leaders. The election is far away, plenty of time for him to make his mark. BTW, if you think that any of the other candidates will become leader of the LIberals, then I've got a Chinese oil well in Alberta to sell you.
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01:21 PM on 12/11/2012
I've been taking a closer look at Garneau after hearing Trudeau's disparaging remarks about the west, and have to say I'm impressed. The last thing this country needs is a divisive Prime Minister.
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canuckhoser
Don't mind the man behind the curtain
01:59 PM on 12/11/2012
Satire? We already have one....
ChrisH75
Apprenez à vivre ensemble/Learn to live together.
02:44 PM on 12/11/2012
The same thought enterred my mind when reading his comment.
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Warren Yuill
Jesus Built My Hot-Rod
02:03 PM on 12/11/2012
It should be interesting to see how this plays out.
Kind of a tortoise and the hare scenario.
Trudeau got a lot of people 'reconsidering' the liberal party but it may well be Garneau who solidifys that support.
Either way I see gains in the future for the liberal party.
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03:30 PM on 12/11/2012
Hey! I actually agree with you!
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ProgressiveCDN
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01:17 PM on 12/11/2012
This is still Canada, and despite Harper's many intentions, there is still no permanent campaigns. These poll numbers, while I like them, are really meaningless until the Liberals choose a leader and the election looms closer. Considering all the negative attention the Cons have hoisted on young Trudeau, I'm surprised his star-power is still this strong.
01:21 PM on 12/11/2012
You got it all wrong its (Biever)J.T doing the work for the Conservatives, he just needs to open his mouth
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ProgressiveCDN
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03:21 PM on 12/11/2012
If that were the case my guess is that the poll numbers would be quite lower.. Seeing as how he's travelled across Canada and spoken to thousands of Canadians across the country.
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02:05 PM on 12/11/2012
Doing well in a few polls between elections is nothing.

If Trudeau won the leadership, he would be faced with (1) getting the LPC's financial house in order, (2) rebuilding much of the party's organization, (3) assembling a compelling suite of policies to run on, (4) running a competent campaign, including do reasonably well against Harper and Mulcair in debate, and (5) keeping his foot out of his mouth.

He'll need more than a winning smile and good left hook to achieve all of that.
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ProgressiveCDN
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03:19 PM on 12/11/2012
Agreed.
01:14 PM on 12/11/2012
I know I am a broken record - but could we please stop splitting the vote.

The Tories will always have somewhere between 30% to 35% of the vote. With three parties fighting for the same center left political spot. With nearly identical political platforms- we are handing Harper a victory!

Karl Rove tried to lie and deny the pollsters and Rommney went down big time- we are exactly the same ignoring the polls and handing Harper an easy victory!
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02:11 PM on 12/11/2012
It's only a split vote if you look upon Canadian politics as having two sides: (1) Conservatives and (2) all of the rest.

Except that's not the case. The chasm between the NDP and the Liberals is far greater than people admit to. The NDP has been successful in downplaying its radical side so that they appear almost centrist, but I doubt they will be able to do so forever.
02:29 PM on 12/11/2012
Read the platforms- only political junkies would be able to discern the chasm. I can assure the general voting public has not.
I loved the last election debate- everyone argueing against Harper. Each mimicking each others reasoned stance. Jack Layton stood out not because his ideas were diffrent - just lucid and passionate. His platform - the same!
The arrogance of the political junkies will continue to give Harper his majority. We're number two!
01:01 PM on 12/11/2012
How can the Current Conservative Government get 31% of the vote has no one been paying attention to the Gems these guys have been up too?
01:16 PM on 12/11/2012
Easy - you split the vote between three parties (four in Quebec) with nearly identical platforms.- they each take about 17% of the vote.

The last three elections had exactly the same results - why is this a mystery????
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02:11 PM on 12/11/2012
When did the Conservatives get 31% of the vote?
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02:53 PM on 12/11/2012
Closest was 2006 with 29%. Since then they've gotten between 35% and 37% of the vote. However, as recently as 2004 the 37% they won was not enough to form the government.
12:49 PM on 12/11/2012
I will vote for anyone who can beat Harper. I am sorry Ignatieff did not do better as he was an educated, intelligent thoughtful person who would have been a good leader. However, the relentless attack ads from the conservatives did him in as did his seeming inability to come across as warm and fuzzy to the public. Justin Trudeau's father, who is the source of the fact that he has any chance at all, also never really had a job so maybe lack of experience and success in the world is not a barrier.
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01:25 PM on 12/11/2012
I had high hopes for Ignatieff as well, but the sad fact is that some of the attacks ads were bang on. He was criticized for wanting to lead a country he barely lived in. Guess where he's moving to next year? Massachusetts.
01:37 PM on 12/11/2012
Well, he was an international personality teaching at Oxford and Harvard which are huge achievements and don't happen to be in Canada. Didn't bother me that he had lived out of the country.  He went where great opportunities presented themselves.  Too bad Harper hadn't had an opportunity somewhere else and that he didn't stay there where he could not harm his country of origin.
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02:22 PM on 12/11/2012
Unfortunately he spent out his former ethical capital when he supported the Iraq war.He was a good writer, particularly about human rights, and a good film maker--he sold out.
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Ergon
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12:49 PM on 12/11/2012
How about Justin Trudeau vs Stephen Harper in the boxing ring?
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Atheist. Social Democrat. Canadian.
01:12 PM on 12/11/2012
you know Harper would fight dirty and bring a daggar
01:55 PM on 12/11/2012
I would pay a lot of money to see that, but I'd rather somethig in the realm of MMA. Just so I can see Mr. Harper tap. Being choked out would be an option too.
12:37 PM on 12/11/2012
Do you remember a time, when Canada was interesting? Thoughtful and compassionate? This Justin guy seems to want to bring that back. He seem to want ALL of us to get along, so we can mend fences. I'm from Alberta, I work in the oil industry. My generation seems to want some sort of unity. The old guys around me gripe and are unforgiving, and thing Alberta is the center of the universe, the younger folks have traveled to Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal, Charlettown, and know something has to give. He's young, but more important, he has BELLY FIRE! That might change the world. Look what Obama did for the U.S. dispite half of the country wanting him exiled. He has the BELLY FIRE too. Lets just be friends Canada, let me be proud again to say it! I am CANADIAN!
12:50 PM on 12/11/2012
Paynlac: Great passion for this country. Keep on hoping and doing.
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12:32 PM on 12/11/2012
The poll was conducted by a Quebec based polling organization and the Montreal Gazette. I wouldn't be abut surprised that only Quebec'ers were polled. I am suspect of anything coming out of Quebec. Maybe I've watched too much of the Charbonneau Commission inquiry on TV.
Again, I must alert my Liberal friends that selecting a leader that is Quebec based is not good for the future of the party. The Liberal party hierarchy hasn't figured it ot yet that the ROC does not want anymore leaders or PM's that are out of Quebec.
As for SOT,he may win the hearts and minds of Quebec'ers but outside of Quebec he won't get off the ground at all. I'm beginning to think that out west he's already cooked his goose,particularly with those Alberta voters. They think he may introduce them to National Energy Plan version 2. And they have every reason to think that because a leader out of Quebec will, when push comes to shove, cater to his roots.
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06:45 PM on 12/11/2012
Only leaders from Quebec cater to their roots?????
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dmr569
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12:18 PM on 12/11/2012
The Liberals have faltered and failed because they forgot something important -- namely, Liberalism. Chrétien was a great admirer of Reagan, and Martin was a conservative in liberalist clothing. Canada doesn't need two conservative parties. I'm no Liberal -- never have been -- but I can see that what Canada needs is a party of the true centre, one that succeeds by managing the tension between left and right.

For a country that apes the US in a true monkey-see, monkey-do fashion, whether it's raking up long-settled issues like abortion or suddenly developing a public love affair with guns, we certainly aren't learning anything from the extent of the hardship and despair of a majority of Americans at the moment. That sad situation comes in large part from Americans having lopped off the entire left side (and centre) of the political spectrum and making "liberalism" stand in for "evil." Now, in Canada, pundits talk about a "merger of the left" between Liberals and NDP. Another monkey-see, monkey-do perception of the spectrum.

Justin Trudeau is no where near as clever as his father, but I suspect he knows what real Liberalism is as both a philosophy and a political practice (his flipflop on the long-gun registry notwithstanding).
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01:26 PM on 12/11/2012
You think the Liberals became less Liberal under a former New Democratic Premier of Ontario? That's an odd assessment. Maybe Liberal doesn't mean what you think it means.
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dmr569
Peace, Order, and Good Government
01:28 PM on 12/11/2012
And Ontario is not the centre of the universe.
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Harry Nuggets
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11:57 AM on 12/11/2012
The more he says the more gaffes there will be.
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12:02 PM on 12/11/2012
True of any politician.
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Harry Nuggets
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12:15 PM on 12/11/2012
But J.T. is sooo much more than just a politician, he's the second coming of.....I'm not sure precisely what.