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02:04 PM on 12/18/2012
Polling techniques have to catch up with technology. How many people under the age of 50 hang up as soon as the robo-voice is on the other end of the line?
The real value in this poll is highlighting how any party with 32% of the vote could win a majority of seats... If Canada is a democracy, something has to change!
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waynerism
04:07 PM on 12/18/2012
why democracy has spoken it's only you who don't like the answer
08:23 PM on 12/18/2012
Maybe it's just me, but isn't a democracy supposed to reflect the votes? The Conservatives did not get the most votes...
01:55 PM on 12/18/2012
Lefties need to relax take and take a deep breath..... Canada is doing just fine, just think Harper has not used his power to put forth any far right supreme court judges he's not looking to open any abortion laws, he's not looking to ban gay marriage, he even allowed the RCMP the right to wear turbans

He's clearly a dictator! or is he.....

then the economy is doing fine, so naturally the only way the opposition-post has been attacking Harper is on the environment and energy policies as you can read almost every day on this site, on both cases this site adds a twist to the titles of each story to twist the facts... I guess journalistic integrity is hard to find these days
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Shaun L
Self-proclaimed political pundit
02:25 PM on 12/18/2012
Canada is doing just fine? Wow someone needs to open his eyes. Didn’t he just gut the Environment act? Didn’t he just sell Canada out to the Chinese (even though when Paul Martin went to China for trade talks Harper tore him a new one for collaborating with communists). Perhaps Harper has ‘closed’ the doors on abortion and gay marriage but I am sure those doors will open just as easily when he thinks it is the opportune moment.
02:36 PM on 12/18/2012
Harper is in bed with the U.N in case you haven't noticed not to mention he fully supports the IPPC
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waynerism
04:50 PM on 12/18/2012
no he didn't - the environment regulations have been streamlined and not gutted - now run of the river projects can actually get on line whereas before forget about it. Canada has not sold out to china as they have only paid for a lease that is subject to renewal and they are in a minority psotion - the real kicker is now canadian companies will have more and more control of china partnerships gotta love it - and if only harper would open the door to more value driven policy we would be in better and better shape but that will be for his next term :)
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Doctor Nick
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02:57 PM on 12/18/2012
Between the crime bill and military purchases, I think it would be very easy to make a winning coalition against Harper without needing to criticize economic management or focus on energy issues. You're right that gay marriage and abortion are off the agenda, but wrong to think that the ideologically driven parts of his policies are popular with most Canadians. This is still a center-left party, as evidence by the conservatives inability to break the 40% barrier. There's also the inevitable fatigue with any government - sooner or later they run into a recession or scandal - that may well doom the conservatives in the next election.
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waynerism
04:08 PM on 12/18/2012
maybe maybe not :) - I mean so far the scandal dujour approach doesn't seem to have affected his numbers one bit and the global recession only got him the majority - you might want to re-think your idea
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heterodoxlibertarian
small government liberal
01:12 AM on 12/19/2012
First of all, your username is Doctor Nick so, ipso facto, you're awesome. Beyond that, I would say that you're right that most Canadians are uncomfortable with the reactionary streak and below the surface social conservatism of the Tories. I also think most people like the "smart on crime" message rather than the "tough on crime" message. However, on economics, the other two parties need to move in a more free market direction to compete with the Tories whose message of lower taxes, less spending, and less state interference in the economy is understandably popular. Finally, on the military, I would say that, yes, buying planes we don't need is dumb but we should have a strong military that can meaningfully participate in securing international peace and security and, in some cases, that may need to involvement peacemaking rather than just peacekeeping.
01:53 PM on 12/18/2012
In fact, due to the new seats being added, the Liberals and NDP will have to work together, whether they win or not.

The sooner they realize it, the better.
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waynerism
04:09 PM on 12/18/2012
quite the reverse - the lib's and the NDP have to go to war with each other - otherwiise with the subsidy gone neither willl be able to afford to run a full slate!
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AcunningDisguise
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01:33 PM on 12/18/2012
Just another Canadian baiting story in the HP at this point they grow tiresome.
01:31 PM on 12/18/2012
The NDP, Liberals and Greens must put their egos on hold and unite! Seriously. One party! That's what the Conservatives did and look at them now and the next twenty years if we don't UNITE!!!!!!
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waynerism
04:10 PM on 12/18/2012
ABSOLUTELY !!! - then again I am a Tory :)
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spinnerator
01:27 PM on 12/18/2012
Ha ha, this must drive all the leftards on this site, insane.
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AcunningDisguise
magnus gigas caput
09:35 PM on 12/18/2012
Not really 3 years is a long time I seriously doubt the election will be any more then show regardless.
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Angelo Barovier
I came, I saw, I ate the cheese.
01:17 PM on 12/18/2012
Say it ain't so!
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stopgeorge
Paper Ballots WORK. Unverifiable e-voting doesn't
12:52 PM on 12/18/2012
Alberta is a lost cause. But Ontario needs to wake the 'eff up!
01:12 PM on 12/18/2012
If you mean by lost cause, that Albertan's are the richest province well look at that paradox and then in the mirror.
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Shaun L
Self-proclaimed political pundit
02:27 PM on 12/18/2012
Alberta may be rich now because of the oil but just wait until no one can live there for more than 6 months at a time because of all the pollution in the water and air.
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stopgeorge
Paper Ballots WORK. Unverifiable e-voting doesn't
12:51 PM on 12/18/2012
And what would the results look like if the cons are found guilty of systematic election fraud?!!

Translation for media: Election Fraud = Robocalls Affair
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waynerism
12:53 PM on 12/18/2012
doesn't look like such will ever necessary if you have paid attention to the case by the CoC - zero evidence only hearsay so far
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stopgeorge
Paper Ballots WORK. Unverifiable e-voting doesn't
12:56 PM on 12/18/2012
There is plenty of evidence. And evidence that is being withheld by the cons.
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12:36 PM on 12/18/2012
I'm tired of these polling research companies getting their filth published. Do we all forget when they predicted a Wildrose party WIN, and not even by a close margin?
12:36 PM on 12/18/2012
If the Libs and NDP don't find a way to work together, Harper will get back in, the foreign workers will have our jobs and we will be the Greece of the North. You can count on it.
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waynerism
04:52 PM on 12/18/2012
:) - you make my day! - then again I am a huge harper fan
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Adolf munk
12:33 PM on 12/18/2012
Actually they would both lose even if they got the most seats. Eirther one party would have to defer to the other's ideas or they'd have a quick breakup probably resulting in an election won by the CPC.

If their ideas are so similar, they should unite. If not, their campaign slogan of "we're not them" won't draw much support.
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opprobrious
More speech. Less Flagging.
12:09 PM on 12/18/2012
Sorry but they'd win with a full merger. There is no other way.
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ProgressiveCDN
A Progressive Moderate
12:19 PM on 12/18/2012
I agree, but they're right that it wouldn't be a slam dunk. This new party would need to continue this centrist pitch coming from both the Libs and Mulcair in recent weeks. However, I think more NDPers would go Green than this poll shows. If a merger happens, it will be around a centre-left party (basically the Liberals) and that will turn off a lot of hard-left NDPers.
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opprobrious
More speech. Less Flagging.
01:08 PM on 12/18/2012
I think you're looking at a situation similar to the Democratic Party in the US, which is essentially a coalition of centrist, center-left and left leaning interests. I also think that the Green Party could be accommodated to a great extent under that tent.  You will lose people but you'd probably still end up with a plurality.
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waynerism
04:15 PM on 12/18/2012
did you read the article?
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opprobrious
More speech. Less Flagging.
04:34 PM on 12/18/2012
yes i did thanks
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opprobrious
More speech. Less Flagging.
04:44 PM on 12/18/2012
Oh and it's "conclusions" have very little impact on the outcome of an actual merger (as opposed to cooperation where one party runs in one riding but not in another where the other party has a better chance). If the parties were to merge they'd clean up in Quebec, the Atlantic provinces and much of the 905 region surrounding Toronto (which they'd also win) as well as parts of Manitoba and much of BC. The rest simply doesn't matter.
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waynerism
12:08 PM on 12/18/2012
What a wonderful time to be a Tory and a huge Harper supporter! To read this forum along with TGM and the CBC and laugh to the point of my sides aching at the obvious frustartion the left have in canada right now! Harper haters are becoming the very reason Harper has and will continue to win as long as they don't make up their minds and support one party. As it stands now there will be no merger, no coalition. no cooperation and no arrangement no matter it's design! You see folks there is an essential ingredient to the recipe and that is overlooked byu the haters on this and other forums. The collective wisdom of the average canadian has determined this a long time ago and our history is chock a block full of the proof! In point of fact Harper himself has used this time and time again. The first time is with the first coalition that he setup - can you say Reform - Alliance - PC = now if you don't see what happened you are probably not old enough to vote! The bottom line is that any deal even if promised to be a one off won't work because the stronger will devour the weaker - proven time and again - right now why should lib's cut a deal with the NDP when they might just defeat the NDP and why should the NDP cut a deal with the Lib's = don't make sense
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