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11:04 PM on 12/20/2012
Charles Adler accused someone of lacking nuance....
...we are Sia..mese if you don't please..
01:37 PM on 12/21/2012
HarHarHar! Ah, "The Addled Nation"!
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10:35 PM on 12/20/2012
So Pat. Some of us have actually researched 'gravity' and 'resistance.' How about you ? Inside job ?
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11:36 PM on 12/20/2012
So Pat. Forget you. I've also checked out the image on the Urban Moving Systems truck. Well ok. Forget Twitter. Whatever.
Inside job ?
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10:20 PM on 12/20/2012
Well since Pat, Tom, Judy ..etc. have taken free trips to the MIDEAST and haven't given their voters any rhyme or reason why they travelled there.
I'd say Google the "Urban Moving Systems" boys Canada.
Inside job ?
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10:54 PM on 12/20/2012
(Check out their truck)
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11:43 PM on 12/20/2012
(Personally - I'd say the "Urban Moving Systems " boys- looks a bit fishy.)

Then again - I'm not American..)
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09:22 PM on 12/20/2012
Not a bad description.
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08:52 PM on 12/20/2012
Oh - I glanced at their site. CJPAC which previously I knew little about seems to be a 'no go' here.
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09:52 PM on 12/20/2012
Well.Ok I knew Peter Kent and Pat Martin speak there. But I'm willing to guess they didn't bring up the "Urban Moving System" boys in any of their talks.
Pat and Pete. Any comments ?
(Inside job?)
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09:08 AM on 12/21/2012
What is this Inside Job you keep referring to?
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09:58 PM on 12/20/2012
Cliff Notes : The censorship is painful.
Binky: Oh.
08:47 PM on 12/20/2012
I find his label of the Conservatives quite original and apropo.
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09:09 AM on 12/21/2012
I don't, it's insulting to rats!
08:27 PM on 12/20/2012
Harper's gang of Cabinet Incompetents is not harmed when someone just calls them names, without the backup information needed to convince people that the Cons are doing wrong and need to be stopped. That background information is widely available, so I'm quite surprised that Martin isn't being more strategic. Everyone knows that the Cons are despicable. So does Martin think he's a lone wolf screaming into the night with a big need to alert the forest to this plague of Cons? The NGOs, blogs and social media are on it all day long! Party politics may very well not be the machine that ends Harper's career, but Martin shouldn't be so irresolute. Martin needs practice, the entire opposition needs to strategize, collaborate and for example, look how powerful of an effect Elizabeth May has, as one MP and loads of volunteer support and background information against the Cons! Tactics, gentlemen!
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08:42 PM on 12/20/2012
Inside job?
08:26 PM on 12/20/2012
Martin should win any legal action since truth is always a defence in defamation cases.
Mr Woo
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02:36 AM on 12/21/2012
In the 1950's Liberace sued and won several lawsuits against magazines that insinuated that he might prefer the company of males. The fact that they were correct had nothing to do with it. They all lost. A courtroom is no place to look for the truth.
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08:06 PM on 12/20/2012
The Conservatives appear big on funding proselytizing evangelical Christian and Conservative propaganda only:

- $4.2 Million to the Newman Theological College
- $3.2 million to Youth for Christ in Winnipeg
- $192,000 to the world of Truth Christian Center
- $495,600 to Wycliffe Bible Translators
-$357,146 to Chakam School of the Bible Inc.
- $198,951 to National Evangelical Spiritual Baptist Faith International Centre of Canada
- $84,110 to Eastside Church of God
- $2.9 million to Redeemer University College
- $2.614 million to TrinityWestern University
- $1,0 million to Global Kingdom Ministries Community Center, Toronto

It's becoming more difficult to see much difference between countries like the USA, Israel and Iran. Heavily armed and run by intolerant religious fundamentalists. Harper is doing his best to paint (taint) Canada in their image.
11:32 PM on 12/20/2012
Organised ignorance is in the ascendant under Harper, and his loyalty to Canada rather than Israeli or US interests is certainly in question.
12:11 AM on 12/21/2012
Please, no mentions of 'taint' and Dear Leader in the same sentence.
07:45 PM on 12/20/2012
Dipper Pat Martin is a complete example of what a politician should not be. Martin should be censured and removed from Parliament!
08:37 PM on 12/20/2012
I'd rather see Our Furious Leader censured and removed from politics. At least Martin isn't a serial liar like Harper, who is intent on remaking Canada in his image.
11:32 PM on 12/20/2012
The truth hurts.
A starry-eyed idealist with too much time
07:30 PM on 12/20/2012
While he's right, you need to have a really cool head in politics. Pat Martin seems to go off the hinges way too often.
10:07 PM on 12/20/2012
He might not be my first choice for a diplomatic post, but I would certainly want him in government.

It does us no favours to trade honesty for politeness.
11:35 PM on 12/20/2012
Politeness only applies in response to the polite. The Marquess of Queensbury rules apply only to those using it. Since the tories are neither gentlemen nor polite, in addition to being loyal to foreign interests rather than the Canadian interest, the only criterion to apply is whether moves made against the regime would be effective in curbing it.
07:18 PM on 12/20/2012
He should not have apologized. It's true.
07:15 PM on 12/20/2012
Pat Martin is an absolute embarrassment as a parliamentarian . This man has for years now presented us with language and behavior equivalent to an out of control 13 year old in need of treatment intervention . Listening to the Winnipeg media the term "vile " has been tagged to this outburst . It should be known that he has been particularly critical of this youth facility being built in his Winnipeg inner city riding for no other reason than its association to Christianity . Gangs are ok , youth facility not so much . By the way this facility is quite active with over 1500 children participating in activities none of which are associated with the Christian faith .He does not spend much time in Winnipeg preferring to live on Vancouver Island when he is not in Ottawa . Yes he is truly a piece of work that and with that I am quite assured Thomas Mulcair must not be pleased a senior NDP member is again showing his true character .
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09:46 PM on 12/20/2012
Inside job ?
10:21 PM on 12/20/2012
SOunds like a perfect candidate for a senator. All he needs is a 15 year old girl friend and he has met all the job requirements.
07:11 PM on 12/20/2012
Pat Martin didn't get angry enough and should have stayed focused on what mattered. Stopping public funding from going to the Youth for Christ an Evangelical Ministery active around the world where children are vulnerable. They are literalists when it comes to the Bible, accepting every single word in it as God's word no scholorship gets in their way. They believe that Mary was a virgin and that being gay is a choice and needless to say in their view an 'abomination'. they were and are very active in Rwanda, you may recall that this is the African state, that saw gays being killed and are trying to have gays put to death. The Evangelicals from the US played a huge role in the Rwanda attitude toward Gays that now endangers their lives. They prey on the vulnerable, the hungry the sick and the impoverished. No wonder First Nations people want nothing to do with them. First Nations traditional spiritual beliefs were very accepting of Gay people they call them the people with two spirits.
Youth for Christ is a ministery and spreads the same right-wing, hatefilled Christian dogma of intolerance that fuels the Conservative party. Anti-Muslim, anti-Catholic, anti-gay, anti-abortion and pro-Israel christian zionist who belive that all of Palestine should be handed over the Israeli's. There is nothing charitable about these people they are on a Mission.
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08:28 PM on 12/20/2012
Sorry. Couldn't be bothered to read it all.
Oh, by the way.Inside job ?
11:35 PM on 12/20/2012
Inside job? I don't care who reads it, I write for the thoughtful and independent thinkers. We do have some here.
09:50 PM on 12/20/2012
Of course Mary was a virgin. Gawd wouldn't want his rape victim comparing him to other men?
I stand on the shoulders of giants
09:15 AM on 12/21/2012
Said Joseph on December 28 "That's the last time I take a job outta town."