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MCTSilverlakeCA
retired Sr Litigation Insurance Fraud Manager
10:50 PM on 01/07/2013
At least you Canadians have the guts to admit it in an open media forum--and I don't mean that in a derogatory way. The CA after my nick means California- that's right I'm from your neighbor to the South-- but I have roots back a few generations in Canada (Quebec actually) and I still "feel" for those roots. Issues like oil shale fields polluting ground waters is one that I can actually read about in your edition of the HuffingtonPost because in -your- edition, unlike the USA edition- such things do not take a back seat to the continuous manufactured crisises of our embarrassing Congress which tend to fill every nook and cranny of News -printed, broadcast, or virtual- whether or not we'd prefer down here to follow more important news- such as what our oil shale fields might be doing to USA lands and waters..but we won't see it - it will get shoved off to some tiny corner page somewhere where it won't even get more than a comment or two--the HuffPost in the USA has, in the past two years, increasingly become just another rag for the political paparattzi...
02:06 AM on 01/08/2013
Lucky for you, Justin Bieber is right down the road.
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Leeryguy
Revenant Guy
10:36 PM on 01/07/2013
Gee! who'd have thought....
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TonyOnly
Truth matters.
10:26 PM on 01/07/2013
Conservatives have a history of treating environmental concerns as an impediment to a fast buck.

So it's not surprising science is discovering the serious consequences of that short sighted attitude.

Tar sands + Conservatives = Cancer
It's not rocket science.
10:42 PM on 01/07/2013
Lighten up, Francis.
11:13 PM on 01/07/2013
This government just signed a 29 Million dollar investment to clean up Lake Simcoe and South Eastern Georgian Bay

You just won't hear that on this website
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Steve Lives
The Venus Project ... look it up
12:13 AM on 01/08/2013
Because they are doing their job? News flash! Bobby Johns just flipped the burger patty before it got burned......
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TonyOnly
Truth matters.
08:42 AM on 01/08/2013
Clean up after the fact, despite being warned for years there was a worsening phosphorus issue that was damaging the eco system.
 
The only difference is, you could say this one wasn't caused by Conservatives chasing a quick buck. But even that is debatable. 
10:19 PM on 01/07/2013
The bottom line is that Alberta, and every other oil producing jurisdiction, needs to look at diversifying their economies quickly. First of all it is foolish to rely on one natural resource to prop up an economy. Secondly, it is virtually impossible to produce and use fossil fuels without creating environmental harm. The sooner we move away from this source of revenue the better.
10:49 PM on 01/07/2013
How do you propose to replace the $trillions the sands are going to generate in the future.

Be specific.
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06:51 AM on 01/08/2013
We survived without them in the past and will have to again when the oil runs out on top of spending trillions to try to re mediate the damage.
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CarlyQ
Without followers, evil cannot spread.
09:40 PM on 01/07/2013
"The federally funded research by some of Canada's top scientists was published Monday in the prestigious U.S. journal the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. "

Canada's top scientists, including those working for the federal government, have been literally muzzled by Harper to prevent such findings being made public.

No wonder, then, they had to turn to American publications to have their findings published.
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TwoZeroOZ
10:52 PM on 01/07/2013
Well to be fair, US journals are often more prestigious, thus publication in them is sought after by everyone.

It really doesn't have much to do with Harper's aversion to science.
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CarlyQ
Without followers, evil cannot spread.
12:11 AM on 01/08/2013
I disagree.

Since Harper's appointment, there has been quite a big deal made about the fact that federal scientists are not permitted to speak about their findings to Canada's press.
03:53 AM on 01/08/2013
I believe the article alludes to this being a study funded in part by government and in part by industry, hence "including" federal scientists (also including others) -- and therefore not subject to the muzzle in the same way. Do have to wonder if the government scientists are speaking to these findings, or if only the "others" who have no obligation to remain silent.
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shediac
09:13 PM on 01/07/2013
Hey folks give it a break! This is Alberta...Alberta! Albertans have sold their souls to the 'King Of Oil' The King Of Moo-la' Not a big deal really. Have you ever been to any part of Alberta that doesn't suck up to BC? Don't bother....
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Peter Burgess1
09:23 PM on 01/07/2013
lol. BC? You mean the place where 1 out of 3 tourist dollars is guiding US gun nuts around to help them kill grizzlies? BC who's been hosting oil pipelines for their Daddy the US of A for 60 years? BC who blow entire mountain tops off to get to the dirty coal so they can sell it to China? BC who's never met a tree it's not willing to cut down for pennies?

lol. BC is a hypocritical joke.
10:52 PM on 01/07/2013
Don't forget the massive amounts of pristine forests permanently flooded by BC Hydro, with much of the power destined for the USA.
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shediac
12:17 PM on 01/08/2013
Still way better and much more sane than than Alberta Capitalist run-amok. Yes BC does have right-wing money grubbing Corporate crooks but they make up a much smaller part of the population.
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freeSpeakr
I stand on the shoulders of giants
09:00 PM on 01/07/2013
Sadly this is just the beginning …
10:09 PM on 01/07/2013
Beginning of what?
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Jason Bullock
12:19 AM on 01/08/2013
Are you really that stupid?
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freeSpeakr
I stand on the shoulders of giants
09:16 AM on 01/08/2013
Those who don't see it or smell it don't understand.
MKULTRA1, you've shown through your past posts to be a neoliberal … not a democrat.
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Sandra MacKay
08:55 PM on 01/07/2013
Well..duh..
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07:37 PM on 01/07/2013
Like a little too late now!! Alberta is going to be a barren wasteland one day just like it was before but much worse...the oil kings knew all this before and money is the source of all evil.
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Peter Burgess1
08:24 PM on 01/07/2013
lol. My god what hysterics.
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TwoZeroOZ
10:53 PM on 01/07/2013
"like it was before"

So like.. when it was a beautiful lush prairie?
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10:55 PM on 01/07/2013
I guess...
07:23 PM on 01/07/2013
How irresponsible, disrespectful, destructive and DUH!
07:21 PM on 01/07/2013
I guess now that we are the world leader in carbon gas recovery we will just have to become the world leader in hydrocarbon recovery. Problem solved.
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AcunningDisguise
magnus gigas caput
07:13 PM on 01/07/2013
They should have been doing sediment cores from day one!
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Peter Burgess1
08:25 PM on 01/07/2013
Very true. Well...day one wouldn't have told them anything but they should've been going slower and monitoring more since day 1 sure.
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AcunningDisguise
magnus gigas caput
07:11 PM on 01/07/2013
Always minimizing the effects..."low compared to urban areas" These are wild rivers and lakes
comparing them to city streams is disingenuous at best.

There has never been any doubt as to the effects just a refusal to do the studies and listen to the scientists. This is a finite world we can't continue polluting at will like this.
07:15 PM on 01/07/2013
LOL, re. minimizing the effects- it's like when they compare a vaccine compared to a "placebo" vaccine that's full of aluminum or thimerosal. It is insane that the AAP has just approved mercury for worldwide usage.
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TwoZeroOZ
10:53 PM on 01/07/2013
Talk about irrelevant and off-topic....

Also, I'm selling tinfoil hats, interested?
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Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati
07:22 PM on 01/07/2013
The Athabaska river flows through this region of natural oil seeps that have always contaminated the water in rivers and lakes for thousands of years.
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Rob Vann
Ed Snowden is a WAKEUP CALL
07:34 PM on 01/07/2013
Read the article..

"Industry and government have long suggested that hydrocarbons found in water bodies near oilsands development could have come from naturally eroding bitumen deposits. That door is now shut, said Smol."

The study took this into consideration..so what's your point...
07:55 PM on 01/07/2013
To which the ecosystems have adapted over the centuries. At the rate we're polluting our environment, they cannot possibly adapt nor can we survive as a species.
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