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08:56 PM on 01/10/2013
As a Taxpayer we are going to form a movement called :Pay No More.!!
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Saucy Tom
08:52 PM on 01/10/2013
The aboriginals are demanding a fair share of the resources? Give me a break, I am a Canadian, born here, work here, pay unbelievable taxes here and they want a share of the pie? What the Casinos not enough? ok, how about paid University, being exempt from most of our taxes and oh ya don't forget most on the "reserves" don't work, or contribute a dam thing to this society. Sorry fed up with their demands, the generations here now are as Canadian as my family that has been here for 4 or 5 generations. Get rid of these reserves and have them contribute the same as every other "CANADIAN"
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CommonWealth-SinglePayer
Walk on the Right - Vote on the Left
08:43 PM on 01/10/2013
It's Payback Time
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Jesusocialist
Practice safe sects...abstain from religion.
09:14 PM on 01/10/2013
Yup.
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jarnakak
fava beans and sweet breads are for sissies
08:41 PM on 01/10/2013
people who dismiss this offhand with snide remarks would do well to think in terms of how investors would see the developing situation; it wouldn't take much to scare off the investors if harper mismanages this file and situation largely of his own making. even the mere threat of disruption may see capital fleeing from harper one-trick pony.
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Warren Yuill
Jesus Built My Hot-Rod
09:29 PM on 01/10/2013
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JPalka
10:00 PM on 01/10/2013
I do not think the Chinese will be too impressed....
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tnanimation
08:34 PM on 01/10/2013
One way to really gauge how well the Idle No More movement is doing is to read some of the comments here on Huffpost. As the situation progresses, and the Chiefs are clearly showing that they have no intention to back down, the attacks here get more racist, more personal and just plain adolescent in nature. The world is watching and it's clear that when truly confronted with an adversary that won't succumb to the smear campaign and threats Harper's Reform party government just can't handle the pressure. They are frozen with indecision.
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RunningBecky
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09:13 PM on 01/10/2013
I just returned to Canada from a long stay in the assylum, I mean the US so I really do not know the issues well or who is in the right. But I can say the wholesale slander, deframation and anger towards the aborigional population is shocking!
If the leaders of the aborigional nations and the Idle No More movement think their in the right, then they SHOULD stand up and not back down.
Personally if it is a battle between them and the energy companies, well, I know enough to know what the energy companies are like! The world is not all about making money.
Anyway, I have read a lot about this issue but not ONE impartial, scholarly discussion or article. And having a chief stand before a microphone with a headdress saying their demanding their rights really tells me nothing although I will support him if he is in the right! But this whole thing is becoming a little pathetic!
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08:44 AM on 01/11/2013
Ignorance is a tough thing to live with isn't it. why not just go back to 'the states'. You won't be missed.
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jarnakak
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08:20 PM on 01/10/2013
when iverson says something he is usually taken serious by the other panelists on power&politics. in summation of what could potentially happen if spence carries through with her threat to die for her people's cause, that things can deteriorate so quickly with idlenomore, everyone including him and the usually smug tom flanagan were stunned by his adumbrations.

i hope nothing happens to spence for her death would not bode well for anyone in canada (including canada's already tarnished international reputation); i don't want canada to get any closer to harper's newfound buddy-buddy without canadians consent and adjustment to new geo-political situation.
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08:09 PM on 01/10/2013
I feel terrible for the kids growing up in these dysfunctional reserve environments, many of them never had a chance.

I would feel a lot better about forking over my hard earned tax dollars if I knew they were going to those who really needed them, rather than the many corrupted officials and chiefs responsible for their distribution.
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EQ8Rhomes
08:31 PM on 01/10/2013
That's the big: IF.... that even charity CEOs lost track of. IF they spent the donations/ obligations for the people who needed them.
Corruption hurts us all.
08:41 PM on 01/10/2013
I agree. Nothing will change until the majority of the corruption surrounding this delicate subject is abolished.
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09:01 AM on 01/11/2013
That is exactly how the government felt in the Provincial School era. The presumption that the "Indians" couldn't manage themselves or their children properly. And we all know what kind of nightmare that was for the First Nations Families,especially the abused children. God forbid we make that kind of an error in judgement again.
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jarnakak
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08:09 PM on 01/10/2013
I came across Rollo May's thoughts through Edward T Hall's writings so what i want to quote is not from the source (i think May's book is called, Love and Will) but i think it's worth quoting because it speaks to the frustration many people (regular canadians and aboriginals alike):

"Rollo May...sees four types of apathy as steps in anescalating series, starting with withdrawl from life and culmanating in violence.
First, there is 'withdrawl from the active world to give time to [try and] repair the damage to oneself, and to protect oneself from further damage.'...
Second, there is the apathy of impotence. American students were apparently going through this stage as a consequence of their inability to influence the Washington juggernaut.
Third, is the apathy of hopelessness and dispair of the type experienced by the German people following World War I when they were saddled with an impossible economic burden of war reparations and forced to accept the 'war guilt.'...
Fourth, man reaches a state of numbness and 'unfeelingness'. May believes that no human can exist for long in this final state. He does not merely stagnate: '...the pent-up potentialities turn into morbidity and dispair, and eventually into destructive activity...It develops in him a readiness for wild aggression and violence...without thought of whom he will hit.'"

Chief Nepinak and Spence's frustration are beginning to show signs of something ominous.
08:22 PM on 01/10/2013
And the ones who will suffer the most are the average reserve residents, living in poverty, squalor, and despair, while their leaders live in luxury with monies extorted from the taxpaying public.
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jarnakak
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08:25 PM on 01/10/2013
sounds like canada's lot too by the way things are going with ontario and alberta and the other rumblings from other provinces (ie, eastern maritimes)
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09:04 AM on 01/11/2013
Thank's for that.I haven't referenced May's work in many years. Send your comment to the PMO's site.
08:08 PM on 01/10/2013
Looks like someone real Wafted a Bad one in those headline photos.
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EQ8Rhomes
08:34 PM on 01/10/2013
@Bobo Macoute: Exactly my reaction! FUNNY, as in a bad "indian" movie!
07:54 PM on 01/10/2013
I do like the cheap cigarettes, though.

I can support native enterprise and flip the bird to the taxman at the same time.
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tnanimation
08:25 PM on 01/10/2013
With your heroes, Harper and his Reform party, on the ropes and clearly at a loss about how to handle this situation, I just have to laugh at all of you who can only muster up racist jibes and personal attacks. Idle No More is the turning point for the Harper agenda.
08:26 PM on 01/10/2013
You are part of the problem.
08:37 PM on 01/10/2013
Gotta cut corners, these are tough times.

At least according to most libs posting here,
07:51 PM on 01/10/2013
"We demand a fair share of those resources," said Bill Travers, the Assembly of First Nations' regional chief for Manitoba

Fine, but do you have a plan because how did that work out in Hobbema.
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Anne Mccormick
08:01 PM on 01/10/2013
I'm an American so I have to ask what happened in Hobbema?
08:22 PM on 01/10/2013
W.P Kinsella writes "humorous" stories set on the fictional Hobema Indian reservation where the chief steals all the government money and everyone else lives happily in abject poverty with no hope or foreseeable solution.

Try Sherman Alexie (The Toughest Indian in the World, The Lone Ranger and Tonto Fistfight in Heaven, The Absolutely True Diary of a Part Time Indian, The business of Fancy Dancing) for a native take on the same subject matter.
08:22 PM on 01/10/2013
Oil rich reserve where there they did share in the revenue.  Suicide rates increased, and so did the rates of substance abuse.  Now they have a terribble gang issue with lots of violence. 
08:27 PM on 01/10/2013
I hear that
There is no resource revenue for 99% of the natives here.
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07:49 PM on 01/10/2013
These chiefs are acting for their own benefit. If they were earnest they would negotiate seriously and without the publicity. All this grandstanding is to puff up their egos and parade as heros.
The real heros are out working to make a better life for themselves and their families.