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01:15 PM on 02/04/2013
What should one expect after all these years of Harper? Socialism? I don't think so...
01:04 PM on 02/04/2013
No link to the source report leaves us without the ability to draw our own conclusions based on the information.

I don't like trying to form opinions when I don't know if the underlying data; or summary are biased.

I find it frightening how many people in these forums have a very strong confirmational bias. "We only got a B? It's Harpers fault."

It doesn't matter that we got a B before Harper. It doesn't even matter what's in the report; just that it's Harpers fault.
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01:25 PM on 02/04/2013
I thought you didn't like forming opinions. Apparently you have.
01:45 PM on 02/04/2013
.. and apparently you're immune to irony. My last paragraph is not implying that it's Harper's fault; it's a demonstration of how silly it is to blame Harper without any real understanding as to why.
annyp
A Canuck, eh!
12:59 PM on 02/04/2013
This report doesn't surprise me at all. Some of the comments on here are blaming Harper but I can tell you, it started back in the mid 1970's. And I am not a fan of Harper. In the late 1990's companies started downgrading pays. I know as I was one of those people. I have now retired. Where I now live, most wages are minimum wage as people want to move here. If I had been looking for work when I moved here, I would have got half of what I did living elsewhere. They call it the "sunshine tax". Most companies operate on greed now, so good luck trying to get decent pay and with the disappearing of uinions, it will get worse.
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01:48 PM on 02/04/2013
i agree with you annyp all the way. May I just highlight one of your lines. "most companies operate on greed now." Actually dont most companies operate on "predatory greed" now.
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03:30 PM on 02/04/2013
All capitalist company work on a greed system. The whole point is to make money!
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01:53 PM on 02/04/2013
But King Harper is making it even worse for us and not finding a godo solution. He lied to the public satating he's provide a different government for the people, but in turn we have a racist - yes he did affilate himself with the Heritage Front while a Reformer; a person who only cares about making the rich richer.
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Doreen K M
12:23 PM on 02/04/2013
This report is not a surprise to those of us that don't listen to the Harper Propaganda Machine(s), about the wonderful job they are doing in all areas of Govt...

...Not to mention, the Harper Govt's (unrealistic) advise to the nation, during hard economic times, (while "he" runs up the deficit), telling us, "cut back", and "save for your retirement"..
It is a cruel joke to so many Canadians, when they have trouble "saving" enough from each paycheck to try and pay their monthly bills, let alone saving for "old age"...

2015 can't come soon enough...
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anatman29
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12:14 PM on 02/04/2013
Harper is fulfilling his promise that Canadians won't recognize their country after he is through. I think we have already passed that point.
12:31 PM on 02/04/2013
Yep, you're right.

The future's so bright, I gotta wear shades. Too bad it's always cloudy and raining on the Left.
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12:59 PM on 02/04/2013
Bright for the rich and greedy to fulfil their addictions for power while middle and lower class suffers.
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Molarii
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11:57 AM on 02/04/2013
Buying groceries, food prices almost doubled in last 3 or 4 years alone while our income and salaries stagnate at same levels...

The politicians are ok, they have feasted themselves golden pensions and salries that raise automatically to the cost of living not counting their generous expense accounts, yet they are asking Canadians to tighten our belts and dared push retirement age to 70....

Out of touch politicians and their business friends don't give a heck....
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11:53 AM on 02/04/2013
Not surprised.
11:51 AM on 02/04/2013
Come on Huff Post don't allow your censure to be so totalitarian and enthusiastic in blocking so many right of center comments . I thought this news site was democratic in nature .
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12:44 PM on 02/04/2013
WTH made you think that a corporate aggregate website would be "democratic"????
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01:52 PM on 02/04/2013
Fox news?
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01:50 PM on 02/04/2013
As democratic as the Globe and mail is at the very least you have your forum we have ours.
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DoctorHorror
11:11 AM on 02/04/2013
Taxing the rich isn't the answer, but changing the starting wage and vacation entitlements to a greater value is. This would force the 1% to ease off on their exhorbant salaries. Remove NAFTA and only offer free trade to countries that have the same human and work rights. We are not reafy for globalization as it only allows for the addiction of money and power at the expense of people.
deckchair
Nothing is forever.
11:29 AM on 02/04/2013
Get rid of NAFTA::: that would indeed help; opening up the markets to corporations in other countries paying less than minimum wage in horrible working conditions has helped make troubles in Canada's economy. But the corporations would never permit the repeal of NAFTA. And interestingly enough, it is Brian Mulroney's own law firm that is all tied up in the mess around the Gaddafi family in Mexico and in Montreal.
11:45 AM on 02/04/2013
Taxing the rich , their incomes , including capital gains , is part of the answer . The other part of the answer is to tax corporations much more heavily , particularly foreign owned ones who transfer their profits out of the country as soon as they are made . Why are there a lot more of the profits retained in this country and distributed to workers , rather than being use to fatten corporate bank accounts ?
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12:47 PM on 02/04/2013
Agreed on taxing corporations, and not provding stimulus packages to failing business. Let them burn to the ground and provide better umemployment and training programs for those laid off.
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Rich Turner
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10:44 AM on 02/04/2013
Lets not become america 2.0 Dont vote harper. Tax the rich and etcetera . We all know what needs to be done, this is nothing new. Take money from rich people, put it where its needed.
10:51 AM on 02/04/2013
How do you measure wealth? What is a rich person? If i started with nothing, worked hard, paid my own way through school....never on any form of social assistance ...lived within my means, ..rented most of my life, drive a small old car, paid cash for everything......but am now worth millions.....am I the "rich" you speak of?

Shall i be taxed more than you for my hard work?? What is rich?
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Rich Turner
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11:11 AM on 02/04/2013
Really?  You need an answer for that question or do you just like the sound of your own typing?
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Rich Turner
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11:12 AM on 02/04/2013
And yes.  If you have millions of dollars, more taxes.  Common sense.  You dont want to pay? Go live on an island where you can spend all your time thinking about your self.
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AcunningDisguise
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01:53 PM on 02/04/2013
To late we are already a second class America.
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Rich Turner
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01:56 PM on 02/04/2013
Well perpetuating the problem wont help, lets turn this ship around.
10:25 AM on 02/04/2013
Harper and his lackey's spend too much time worrying about their masters in the middle east. Canada should always come first.
01:48 PM on 02/04/2013
does that mean we can cut all relief funds to impoverished or disaster prone nations? Sweet!
10:19 AM on 02/04/2013
The penalties on success are already far too high in Canada. Our best and brightest people are leaving in droves for the US and other countries where the tax burden isn't so daunting.

Why work hard, why save, and why strive to grow a business, when the govt will simply confiscate most of the rewards such efforts should bring?
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DebbyM
10:47 AM on 02/04/2013
"Why work hard, why save, and why strive to grow a business, when the govt will simply confiscate most of the rewards such efforts should bring?"

That's how the middle class feel, only we don't have the options that the wealthy have.
deckchair
Nothing is forever.
11:32 AM on 02/04/2013
Yup, We the middle class cannot leave. We don't have the MONEY to leave.
But our kids can leave and a lot of them are voting with their feet.
12:54 PM on 02/04/2013
The middle class will never have the options that the wealthy have.

What's your point?
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4evercanadian
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11:27 AM on 02/04/2013
Have any links to back up your assertion that the best and brightest are leaving in droves? Which then also begs the question, why are you still here? Since you obviously feel that you are part of that group?
12:59 PM on 02/04/2013
I wouldn't describe myself as wealthy, in the traditional sense. But, I am content with what I have and don't envy or resent anyone who has more "stuff" than I do.
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