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SeanMartin
Everything in moderation.
10:52 AM on 02/24/2013
So if it's half done, where are all those thousands of jobs now?

Oh. Wait. It's *done*.

Got it.
09:27 PM on 02/24/2013
The other half will supply the jobs here, not to mention there will be pump stations to be manned as well as inspections of the pipeline.
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SeanMartin
Everything in moderation.
10:40 PM on 02/24/2013
Yeah. According to the proposal submitted, that's a couple of hundred positions. Oh yes, that's gonna put a *big* dent in the unemployment rate. All for oil that wont even stay in the US and will have zero effect on gas prices.
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02:56 AM on 02/25/2013
Yes, and it has already been reported that there WILL be tens of permanent jobs created by this pipeline.
10:37 AM on 02/24/2013
I see two things here. One is they are building the southern leg to make it cheaper and easier to export the finished products of gasoline, diesel fuel, and jet fuel were have become our largest EXPORTS.

And the other is they are not building the pipeline to nowhere and the Keystone Pipeline is all but a done deal.
09:29 PM on 02/24/2013
Some will have a hard time keeping up with your facts but yes, that's most of it.
09:35 PM on 02/24/2013
Thank you. And I should add right now we are doing all this drilling and fracking for natural gas while Natural gas at the well head is only a little over $3 per MCF. And there's a very logical question if the price of natural gas is that low why all this drilling fracking? And its the same answer. They are building the EXPORT facilities for liquid natural gas right now.
11:56 AM on 02/25/2013
yes I had two independent labs test the water prior to fracking taking place. that's the standard procedure.
11:58 AM on 02/25/2013
That's good because lots of people in lots of different places didn't and now the gas companies are getting away with polluting their water wells.
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sgillhoolley
Occupy the discussion.
10:20 AM on 02/24/2013
This sounds like a variation on the "too big to fail" theme. Spend the money and make it economically unviable to NOT proceed. How will Obama be able to say no to this if so much has already been invested in it? Freedom is dead, welcome to a new aristocracy. Go do as you are told.
02:48 PM on 02/24/2013
Exactly. "It's already there, so we might as well use it now!"

Or, "If you build it, they'll have to come."
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ddeldude
mind-spirit meld
09:47 AM on 02/24/2013
Oil makes the world go round
World go round
World go round

Oil makes the world go round
Each and every day

Didn't you sing this song when you were little?

And everywhere that Exxon went,
Exxon went,
Exxon went,

And everywhere that Exxon went,
For oil we get to pay
05:02 PM on 02/24/2013
Once someone can burn rainbow farts, that's where we are at.
02:19 PM on 02/25/2013
Me could burn my Black labs farts after she has had a bully stick :)
09:25 AM on 02/24/2013
Anyone who thinks this pipeline was never to get done is in a fog. This was a sure thing from the get go. Liking it or not doesn't factor into the equation.
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bbrecht
"pray for the dead, fight like hell for the liv
05:25 PM on 02/24/2013
Nope, not with corrupt leaders owned by the oil companies.
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Rob Vann
Ed Snowden is a WAKEUP CALL
09:20 AM on 02/24/2013
And all those wonderful jobs are half over..rotten carrots right from the getgo.
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relentless63
09:00 AM on 02/24/2013
Until both Canada and the United States protect citizens from oil/gas disasters by removing all liability caps from corporations, they are asleep in the pockets of lobbyists and their creators.
If a spill costs $42 billion and all the company has to pay is $40 million, spilling becomes a mere inconvenience for them, but an immutable financial and environmental tragedy for our children and grandchildren.
JayDubFungi
I deleted Obamacare!
09:34 AM on 02/24/2013
I hope people like you ride horses AND BTW, clean up all the crap! (and harvest their feed by hand) . . . . . we want to put a wind farm all around your house!
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relentless63
09:46 AM on 02/24/2013
Stop this world. Angry man wants to get off.
JayDubFungi, I don’t ride horses, but if I did, I’d be glad to clean up the mess and harvest their feed, albeit not by hand, which is more than oil companies are willing to do with their spills.
There's an airport outside my window and I don't complain. Why would I complain about a wind farm.
I hope your present security is worth our children’s future.
02:50 PM on 02/24/2013
Horse manure makes things grow. Bitumen mixed with condensate makes things die. Presumably, a pipeline has burst in your head.
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rainbowthinks
08:57 AM on 02/24/2013
And the rape of mother earth continues
08:44 AM on 02/24/2013
Oil has become more important than water. I think we have taken fresh water for granted because it has never been an issue for us in recent history. People aren't thinking of what happens when this pipeline that is designed to run right overtop of the countries largest fresh water aquifer. Profit Before People, USA, USA, USA!!!!
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colpy
09:06 AM on 02/24/2013
Ahh....the route has changed to avoid the aquifer......
09:14 AM on 02/24/2013
Then you better lobby to shut down the thousands of miles of pipeline that currently run overtop this aquifer.
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08:14 AM on 02/24/2013
Anyone with two eyes who drives through Hardisty Alberta can see that the Northern Leg is well under way as well. All this phoney environmental concern is just that.
07:33 AM on 02/24/2013
This pipeline baloney must stop, it is short-sighted and will slow us down from attending to the crucial need to rely more on solar.
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colpy
09:07 AM on 02/24/2013
So....do you have solar panels installed??

Oil will be with us for decades to come.
09:36 AM on 02/24/2013
On cloudy days, my Escalade switches from solar power to wind/mill power.

On calm, cloudy days, I'm ess oh ell.
10:06 AM on 02/24/2013
Better than that, I don't even have a house. And I don't have a car. Very few energy needs. Of course oil will be around for a long time, but let's get crackin' on a cleaner environment for our children. Oh, and by the way, I don't even have children, there are too many of them as is.
Antisthenes Diogenes
Your micro-bio is empty
07:21 AM on 02/24/2013
Before it can pump anything throught the Keystone XL pipeline, Transcanada must be forced to build a Keystone Waterline from the Great Lakes to every farm, ranch, city & town in South Dakota, Nebraska, Wyoming, Colorado, Kansas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, and Texas that uses fresh water from the Ogallala Aquifer that will be polluted and unuseable WHEN the Keystone XL pipeline leaks or breaks. That will reflect the true cost of using the Keystone XL pipeline.
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greysells2
grey cells matter
08:19 AM on 02/24/2013
The US does not own the water in Great Lakes. There is an international treaty between Canada and the US that governs this important watershed. Water levels are already dropping in the Great Lakes and it is a fantasy that the cooler northern tier of states and Canada are willing to "give" their water to hotter dryer states, some of whom have developed in the desert where there is no water on cheap land with no real plan for their future need for water.
09:21 AM on 02/24/2013
We should be selling our water to the parched southern states.

After all, our water is a renewable resource, while oil is not.
Antisthenes Diogenes
Your micro-bio is empty
02:31 PM on 02/24/2013
The pipeline is being built by TransCANADA Corporation based in Calgary, Alberta to transport CANADIAN crudes & blends to feed US refineries and is being lobbied hard by the CANADIAN Federal Government. So what's the problem with which US (Federal & state gov'ts) - Canadian (Federal & state gov'ts) treaties, charters, compacts, or agreements about the Great Lakes? And what is to stop another agreement on the use of Great Lakes water if the Canadian Federal gov't wants Keystone XL so much?
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bbrecht
"pray for the dead, fight like hell for the liv
05:35 PM on 02/24/2013
Sorry but the great lakes are already destined to be used for natural gas fracking! 5 million gallons per well. Coming soon....To an aquifer near you....

It's a great time to be an oil company executive! Nobody seems to care very much about their resources! It's all up for grab in the good old USA!
03:25 AM on 02/24/2013
You guys are kidding yourselves if you think there's even a tiny chance they'll be canceling this pipeline.

Continued construction denotes an agreement already done with or without your consent.

In this case, I think it's a great idea.
07:34 AM on 02/24/2013
You might be right; after all, greed is a powerful force and doesn't have much to do with making the right decisions.
03:43 PM on 02/24/2013
I tend to agree with you on this even though we may be on opposite views. Take Obama for example. In public, he'll rage about battling against Keystone, but with our experience with politicians, you know behind the scenes, he's already given the green light. 
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PMDoyle
02:29 AM on 02/24/2013
The USA has limited water supply and these oil companies want to endanger the substance of life. They think with their bonuses not their brains.
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sunnyokanagan
Increase compassion. Decrease suffering
02:06 AM on 02/24/2013
So the work began last August - six months ago - and they've built half the southern leg. Completion of the Southern leg expected by the end of summer this year. Well-paying, health care and pensions. For one or two years :-/
07:34 AM on 02/24/2013
No different than building a large wind farm, lots of jobs while building then a few jobs for maintenance.

I do concede, pipeline are very efficient and require little labor to keep them running.
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sunnyokanagan
Increase compassion. Decrease suffering
08:17 AM on 02/24/2013
Non-sequitur noted.