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02:40 PM on 02/26/2013
Another day another poll ?
I doubt it the Tories pretty much have the minority vote in ON, we've seen it with Harper's last election win, we've seen it with Rob Ford's win in Toronto for mayor if Hudak says the right things before an election its a done deal for the PC's
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03:47 PM on 02/26/2013
That might work in Toronto. Do you get out much?
06:15 PM on 02/26/2013
That was then, this is now. I doubt Ford would get third place and Ontario will go back to the Liberals in droves.
02:38 PM on 02/26/2013
I wonder if the recent UCC filings that legally foreclosed on governments and corporations ( apparrently most governments are corporations) by the OPPT will have any effect on who will actually be in control of our province and country in the future.
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02:02 PM on 02/26/2013
It's easy to see from the comments below that the right is scared.
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okgranny
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10:31 AM on 02/27/2013
They aint's right. They're cons.
01:46 PM on 02/26/2013
"The poll might be hypothetical, but the numbers are very real."

Just like the world of drama and make belief JT lives in.
06:20 PM on 02/26/2013
I guess that imaginary world is where Canada is the most successful country in the world, we are an energy super power, everyone wants our bitumens and Harper isn't regarded as Lumpy by most world leaders.
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01:31 PM on 02/26/2013
I'm actually pulling for Joyce Murray, HOWEVER if Trudeau is the person that will restore the *CANADIAN* government and dump the Harper government, I'm all for him.
01:29 PM on 02/26/2013
So SOT could beat Harper in Ontario if an election was on to-day. That's to-day and when shove comes to push I'd put my money on Harper.
I predict that come 2015 when the next Federal election is called Trudeau wii capture Quebec and this will be the undoing of Mulcair. The Liberals could become the official opposition. In Western Canada the Liberals are dead in the water. The Alberta/BC electorate will neutralize Quebec.
One little thing that Liberals have yet to realize and that may take the 2015 or maybe the 2019 election for them to find out,Canada doesn't want anymore Quebec based Prime Minister's
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bumbaclaude
02:21 PM on 02/26/2013
Trudeau will get all of Canada with the exception of Quebec.

Harpo will have losses in Quebec

The Atlantic provinces will be a Liberal land slide.

Even here in Alberta a Liberal breakthrough will occur!
02:57 PM on 02/26/2013
The first line is entire tripe. the second line is irrelevant, the Cons only have four or five seats in Quebec, so there's nothing to lose there. You may be right about the Atlantic provinces, they love a good handout. There will be a liberal breakthrough in Alberta with the return of the dinosaurs.
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07:35 PM on 02/27/2013
and if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle
02:38 PM on 02/26/2013
75% of the Canadian population lives east of the Manitoba border. What Canada is that you're talking about?
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bumbaclaude
02:47 PM on 02/26/2013
Confortable majority of seats in Ontario.

Most seats then any other parties in the Prairies.

Tim Uppal first to disappear in Alberta.

Land slide in BC.

Sorry!
03:03 PM on 02/26/2013
You're close, its 69% of population that lives east of Manitoba.
01:22 PM on 02/26/2013
I prefer Joyce Murrays idea of uniting the Progressive vote, however Trudeau comes from a line of fairly conscientous, people oriented, safety net friendly politics. - Perhaps????
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giantsteps
12:59 PM on 02/26/2013
Sadly neither Trudeau nor Mulcair as PM will make any difference. However, getting Harper out of the PM's office would be a move in the right direction.

Many say that Harper's economic stragedy is very positive. With this in mind, I ask, why is our debt climbing?
01:27 PM on 02/26/2013
Our debt is rising mainly because of increases in equalization payments to the provinces.
01:33 PM on 02/26/2013
He has to pay for those propaganda...I mean economic action ads somehow.
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12:35 PM on 02/26/2013
The Conservative Party has done well by presenting a message of economic liberalism which is to say a belief in open markets, free exchange, reduced spending, and lower taxes. With that being said, their views on social issues continue to alienate a great many people. So for the Liberals to beat them they simply need to return to a message of economic liberalism in the tradition of Laurier while continuing to advance progressive social views.
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bumbaclaude
12:28 PM on 02/26/2013
Fact is that Justin will get most women and the young to vote Liberal.

Just like PapaTrudeau got the majority of wives of Consevatives to vote Liberal.

Ask my wife and mother!
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Molarii
Democracy really needs it's pillars to be defined
12:43 PM on 02/26/2013
Not in Quebec though. ;)
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bumbaclaude
12:47 PM on 02/26/2013
Agree
12:27 PM on 02/26/2013
It is time for a change in the political climate in Canada. Harper and his "agenda" need to be sent a message that they don't have carte blanche. Maybe Trudeau is the change we need, time will tell.
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Molarii
Democracy really needs it's pillars to be defined
11:53 AM on 02/26/2013
Just want to point out that it appears and seems that ed staff at HP seem to constantly report a lot on Trudeau and HP seem favorable towards him too.

We see 1 or 2 articles on 1 or 2 other liberal leadership candidates and hardly anything on the others in the race.

Another thing, when there is favorable news for NDP such as the crop poll in Quebec, HP seems to shy away reporting it but will be quick to report unfavorable reports on NDP.

Perhaps a bias in reporting? :P
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tnanimation
01:08 PM on 02/26/2013
Most reports are about Trudeau because everyone understands that the other candidates have absolutely no chance.
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Molarii
Democracy really needs it's pillars to be defined
01:27 PM on 02/26/2013
@ tnanimation

Who decided they have no chance?
HP?!
If we don't inform readers of what they stand for, how the hell do you want people to form an opinion?

How about HP do what news do, report and inform.
11:40 AM on 02/26/2013
He needs to do good in the GTA where the Cons got the votes to win their majority.
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tnanimation
01:09 PM on 02/26/2013
Elton! Get back inside right now and leave your cousin alone! Don't make me come out there young man!
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Molarii
Democracy really needs it's pillars to be defined
11:38 AM on 02/26/2013
In Quebec, there was a "Crop" poll done between February 13 au 18 and if federal elections were held this week in Quebec:
- NDP 37%
- Liberal Party 23%
- Bloc Quebecois 22%
- Conservative Party of Canada 15%

According to Youri Rivest, vp of CROP, the NDP is constant, stable and strongly rooted in Quebec constantly for almost a year which shows that the NDP is solidly anchored among Quebec voters.

So Trudeau is not not going to find Quebec easy and If Trudeau wins Ontario as this "Forum Research" poll seems to indicate, then 2015 elections will produce a minority government.

The question is, is it a Cons, Lib or NDP minority government which seems up for grabs.

Another thing, a lot can change between then and now..

The Conservative Party 4% drop in a month in this survey of 1000 users. Satisfaction with regard to the Quebec government is also down, now 67% of respondents are dissatisfied, 4% higher than a month ago.

Third of Quebecers, 33% are in Thomas Mulcair, the NDP leader, the best prime minister of Canada. The odds of Stephen Harper has further decreased from 17 to 13%.
03:25 PM on 02/26/2013
as the last election has shown us, Quebec is not needed to win a majority. or a minority.
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04:10 PM on 02/26/2013
All we really need Quebec for is so this country doesn't resemble America so closely .
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Molarii
Democracy really needs it's pillars to be defined
04:57 PM on 02/26/2013
So you are here predicting and declaring to everyone your expert wisdom that the 2015 will be a carbon copy of the 2011 elections? :)