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Sorry Jian, There's no Such Thing as "Acoustic Rock"

Posted: 09/21/2012 12:50 pm

After 11 days of red carpets, concerts, parties, celeb spotting and, of course, films, time off the road, however precious, is usually spent catching up with life. It's largely frittered away in my car, driving across town to pick up this, or drop off that. I'm a morning person (fallout from years of living with permanent jet lag) and by the time everybody's starting their day, I'm thinking about what to have for lunch.

By the time Q With Jian Ghomeshi hits the airwaves, I've exhausted all my in-car CDs and tune into his show. I'm a genuine fan. I've grown to really enjoy Jian. I enjoy his monologued introductions and his interview style. His signature "Well, Hi There" is Canada's answer to Howard Stern's "Hey Now." His adept handling of spoiled Hollywood actor, Billy Bob Thornton, made him look like a kung-fu master and he instantly endeared himself to me and the rest of the nation.

But I don't think it's any secret that, when it comes to music, Jian skews his tastes very far away from what I deem as Rock. It's not readily detected by the general public but most bands "Q-Approved" fall on the soft side of the fence. So when Jian came on the air last week to announce that Mumford & Sons (think Rankin Family meets The Corrs except nobody is related), were stopping by in a few days to play in-studio, he described them as "Acoustic Rock Sensations."

I rolled my eyes and shook my head. To me, the word "Rock" has always meant "heavy." Even though I describe our band as "Hard Rock," I've always found even that term somewhat redundant. Flippantly pairing the word "Rock" with words like "acoustic" or "folk" or "soft" undermines and strips it of all its deserving weight. I took to Twitter and we exchanged a few tweets which culminated into next day's Q show (September 13, 2012) where he brought up our little tweet tiff accompanied by a couple of thinly veiled jabs that referenced Extreme's More Than Words. You could almost hear his smug grin.

I'm not mad at Jian at all. I say touché. He made me laugh at myself too. I think his opinion is valid but he toes the party line in Canada. Much like Canada's public image worldwide, when it comes to music, most Canadians like their music polite. Hell, even Jian's jabs at me were polite. Music that's loud, heavy or obnoxious is largely viewed by Canadians as lowbrow and uncultured. With movies like Anvil! The Story Of Anvil doing little to dispel the myth of the heavy metal lunkhead, it's hard to blame people for their perceptions. In other words, in this country, Rock is seen as your drunk uncle. Well, for someone who doesn't drink, due more to Ian Mackaye than any 12-step program, I've always found this stigma, glommed on by soft music fanatics everywhere, tiresome.

These Ghomeshi-esque jabs have been happening to me my entire music career and I'm used to it. Actually, it's been happening to me since I was in high school. I was a card-carrying Rocker then as I am now and suffered dearly for it. When a classmate ransacked my bag when I was in grade 10 and stole my cassette copy of Slayer's Reign In Blood only to return it to me the next day scared shitless, I knew then it was going to be a long hard road of misjudgement. I also cursed the Joy Division Unknown Pleasures pin he wore on his coat as he handed my tape back to me. Because of that moment, it took me until I was in my mid-20s to start appreciating Joy Division.

And it was this on-air ribbing from Jian that brought back these memories of adolescence and interestingly enough has coincided with the release of his new book titled 1982, which chronicles the year he was a self-described eyeliner-wearing New Wave teenager. Maybe it was unresolved residual digs leftover from our high school days that had us jabbing back and forth. OK, so if Jian and I went to the same high-school we wouldn't be sitting together in the cafeteria. I get it. Yes, I do concede Rock has been assimilated into pop culture to such a degree it's been rendered impotent and thus its general snub amongst self-appointed music pundits. But I've managed a 180 turn over the years and my original distaste for New Wave has turned into all-out worship for bands like Gang Of Four, Devo and The Cars. I guess I'm a little disappointed that I don't see it reciprocated back.

Still, sitting in my car listening to Jian defend the term "Acoustic Rock" brought a wistful smile to my face. It was good fun indulging in those adolescent dividing lines, reviving long-forgotten high school cliquish dramas on a public stage, if only for a minute or two. Of course, when my cellphone rings and zaps me out of my reminiscence, I remember it's 2012 and I have to start packing 'cause somewhere, a plane ride away, is a Rock stage with my name on it.

 

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12:16 PM on 10/02/2012
Soft rock, acoustic rock, soft rock...I don't care. What I do care about is the lack of any shows here in the good ol' US of A. I have got to be the only fan in Texas that likes to blast The Finger while driving these back country roads? Danko, please consider a trip to Austin or even Dallas....
10:24 AM on 09/25/2012
I agree with you Danko. Rock is Rock. We've segmented the genre too much in my opinion. Everyone is looking for a unique position/slot in the music store (do we still have those?).
I will disagree with you on Joy Division though - they should have stayed a Punk band.
@LochlinCross
08:14 AM on 09/23/2012
Being from Canada and having attended the same types of schools that you and Jian attended (in fact I went to the same high school as Dan Cornelius, a couple grades ahead of him), I totally get where you're coming from. Even today, I'm in my forties and when people find out that I like "heavy metal" they think I'm a boozing drug addict, even though I've never touched drugs. I didn't even equate the two until a vendor and I were having a conversation and it turned out we both liked the same music, at which point he asked me if I had any weed. Why can't I like music without being lumped into a stereotype? I recently went to see Kiss and Motley Crue and it was incredible how many closet metal-heads there really are. But they would NEVER admit to it! Ah well. Thanks for keeping our rock hard!
06:48 AM on 09/23/2012
Jian's band Moxy Fruvous made some of the worst soft-diahrea music ever recorded and he's only on the CBC because he fits their politically correct immasculated man profile.
05:00 PM on 09/22/2012
"In other words, in this country, Rock is seen as your drunk uncle."

Interesting. Northern Europe is polar opposite in this regard.
Take for example Finland.
They famously sent a heavy metal band to the Eurovision song contest 2006 and won with highest score ever. Cabinet members and foreign ministry promotes this "hevi" as a true part of Finnish national brand. It has reached somewhat equal stature with classical music, which is the mainstay of Finland's contribution to international music scene (conductors like Salonen, Saraste and Oramo).
01:09 PM on 09/22/2012
Clearly, "rock" means different things to different people. I enjoyed the article, and found all of the comments quite interesting. However, as is the case with most matters of opinion, no one is right and no one is wrong here. The purists are as entitled to their definition of rock as any of those who endorse a looser interpretation. I have sympathies with both camps. Just to get my own 2 cents in there, for no reason other than its being Saturday morning and I'm procrastinating over the chores, I think "rock" can signify an approach or an attitude as much as a specific sound. Do all rock bands have to include electric guitars turned up to 11 (to continue the Spinal Tap reference)? I don't think that the music should be defined by the musicians' choice of instruments; Peter Buck's use of the mandolin didn't suddenly make REM a folk band, and the Violent Femmes didn't rock less hard because they used acoustic instruments. What Nickelback does will never be rock despite the use of a lot of rock-esque elements like distorted guitars (opinion!). Ultimately, it doesn't matter what you call it, and sometimes labelling what you do, as a musician, is either impossible or very limiting.
georgee2
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09:16 AM on 09/22/2012
I really don't give a d...m what it's called. I like the Mumford's and lots of other sounds. My motto "less talk more music"
03:44 PM on 09/21/2012
Or, perhaps Mumford has broken into a sound that uses acoustic guitars to produce a louder, even heavier, rock sound. There are segments of their music that definatly pushes that boundary, especially live. I do understand Danko's point however. I'd would be interested in his opinion in using the term "Folk Rock". or, "Soft Rock". ANywho, interesting!.
03:29 PM on 09/21/2012
well Im of an age when i remember there was this thing called rocknroll...you know Chuck Berry and all that...then the Beatles came along and basically took the roll out and except maybe for the Stones its been rock every since...of course soft rock is a goofy concept..besides being a oxymoron..and acoustic rock..well come on...its folk music or something like that....rock needs to rock...and that means volume..attitude..and singing about whats out there to do..not some introspective stuff about how your 21 and the world just makes you suicial.try Summertime Blues..there aint no cure.. for boredom....except to crank it up so that you can be heard....
02:53 PM on 09/21/2012
Ah yes the likeable-Jian show, 10% Canadian, 90% foreign, and all celebrity!
I think he's Ben Mulroney in a mask.

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01:59 PM on 09/21/2012
Danko you're right, the term '"rock" has been misappropriated to include and music that is popular and doesn't fall into the other obvious genres of lets say country, hip hop, dance or electronica. That's why if you ever (by accident) turn on a modern rock radio station in Canada chances are the last thing you will here is anything that rocks!. Don't get me wrong I enjoy a little Death Cab for Cutie or Modest Mouse every once and awhile but they certainly don't rock. That's why in my Itunes bands like Backyard Babies, Hellacopters, Lucero, G'N'R, AC/DC, Social D, Supersuckers, The Hives, get the genre title of Rock n' Roll.

Oh and Danko Jones records are definitely Rock n' Roll in my books!!
Can't wait to get the new album
01:53 PM on 09/21/2012
Historically speaking, "rock music" was a term coined to distinguish the contemporary sounds of the late '60s from the "rock'n'roll" styles of the late 50's and early 60's. Which is to say that when Lester Bangs coined the term "heavy metal" the boys in Slayer were in short pants. Which is to say your little beef with Jian about your personal definition of "rock" is absolutely meaningless to anyone but you. But then, everything you've ever done was entirely about you, which is why I find it all unlistenable.
01:27 PM on 09/21/2012
Danko, thank God you're so interested in what you think, because I hear crickets chirping all over the nation. "Danko who?" Yeah, Mumford and Sons is twee, but why should I or Jian or anybody else give a rat's hind-quarters what you think about them? Your obsession with high-school indignities is indicative of your own self importance. Yawn.
01:17 PM on 09/21/2012
My 2 cents here, I think that "Accoustic Rock" is used in North America because "Pop" seems to be a dirty word here. In Europe, they don't seem to have a problem with the term and "Rock" means a hard rock band. As for "heavy" music being equated with Spinal Tap-esque intelligence, there are plenty of heavy groups who demonstrate that stereotype as passé. System of a Down, Rage Against the Machine, Rush, Tool and such groups are hard rocking groups with intelligent, articulate messages. Perhaps it's the fact that SOAD or RAM are very clear in their socio-political messages (in addition to their general, awesome,groovy heaviness) that turns people off. No one's political sensibilities are offended by Michael Bublé or Avril Lavigne.