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Canada Take Note: America's Tax System Is Messy But Good

Posted: 01/04/2013 4:06 pm

I occupy the unenviable position of being both a Canadian and an American citizen which means that I must file and pay taxes to each country.

The Americans, and now the Australians, are the only nations that tax people on the basis of citizenship irrespective of residency. So whatever taxes I pay in Canada on Canadian earnings is disclosed to the IRS and, if tax rates would have been higher there than here, I send them the difference. And vice versa.

Americans pay lower income taxes than Canadians, but some taxes are lower here than there. After this week, many Americans will pay higher taxes on dividends than Canadians as well as higher corporate taxes, estate taxes and gift taxes. Then Congress will begin to slash spending so expenditures don't exceed their new income tax revenue ceiling.

My expensive perch provides a unique perspective on what has been going on in Washington: the American process may be nasty and noisy but frankly I'm more than a little jealous that the taxpayer is the focus of their attention. That's not the case in Canada where politicians have carte blanche, put everything on the tab and easily hike taxes. Here, the best one can hope for is to find oneself under the control of a fairly enlightened regime occupying all three levels of government.

Of course, the U.S. is not a paragon of virtue and has gotten itself into a big fiscal mess, due to panic over 9/11, the 2008 debacle and unjustifiable tax cuts and wars paid for with a national credit card. But this week, after two years of haggling, illustrated that a system of checks and balances eventually imposes discipline by forcing the public and politicians to engage fully in financial decisions.

Thus the bipartisan deal this week which has raised taxes on wealthy Americans but which will also mean a trade-off of severe caps on spending and future debts.

By the way, the Social Security and Medicare debates are separate because they are self-insured pay-as-you-go programs like Canada's Employment Insurance. Administered by governments, they can be fixed by lowering benefits and raising premiums paid by future recipients. It's controversial, but both can be actuarially repaired if retirement/Medicare ages rise to 70 by 2015 and 72 by 2025 while medical coverage is chopped to 75 per cent from 80 per cent.

But the U.S. system has kept taxes lower than in other countries. Despite the bleating, federal income taxes will go up to about 39 per cent at $400,000 a year. (State income taxes are another 9 per cent if in California or New York but zero if you move residence to Florida).

To compare, a Toronto taxpayer pays federal/provincial incomes tax of 40.16 per cent at $132,406 level, without mortgage interest or property tax deductions and a monstrous 13 per cent sales tax on everything.

In Europe income taxes in are 52 per cent (for those who pay); 57 per cent in Sweden, 55.2 per cent in Denmark, nearly 60 per cent in Germany, 45 per cent in Australia, 47 per cent in Norway and 50 per cent in Japan, Belgium and Austria. Some sales taxes are 26 per cent or higher.

Here's the point. Imagine what their taxes would be if they had militaries even half the size proportionately of America's? By the way, the difference is not medical coverage. American governments pay half of all medical costs in U.S. or 7 per cent of GDP, the same 7 per cent as Canada and the others spend on healthcare for their citizens.

We all pay higher taxes because there are no checks and balances. In Canada, governments have been hijacked with as little as 37.6% of the vote (Bob Rae in Ontario in 1990). Once in, politicians rack up bills, debts and taxes as much as they wish. Worse than that, they invoke the incumbents' advantage by calling the election when they think the other guys are so divided that nobody can get the requisite 37.6 per cent plus to topple them.

This is why Canada nearly went bust in 1995 but was averted when international lending agencies threatened to cut off its credit. More recently, a crisis looms without anyone applying brakes. Ontario and Quebec have combined debt levels approaching the size of our federal government's debt, a trajectory that is unsustainable.

What if there had been checks and balances? What if, like American states, provinces were not allowed to borrow as much money as they wanted for as long as they wanted?

Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty would not have been able to hand out all-day kindergarten, costing more than $1 billion a year forever, just as his province was losing its credit rating. He would have been called to task on signing an expensive confidential contract with Samsung and he might not have been around to spend up to $1 billion in penalties last fall canceling two power projects in order to win re-election.

He would have had to come to a compromise about his overspending with other parties, as would Quebec. Instead, McGuinty spent twice as much as economic growth then when pilloried at long last simply quit and prorogued the government. He shut down debates, bridled press freedoms and halted opposition probes in the hopes that the public will forget and Liberals can find an electable replacement.

Speaking as a hapless Ontario taxpayer, I can hardly wait for a new unelected Liberal Premier to take office and launch a raft of spending initiatives, thus harming the provincial debt rating even more, in order to get elected.

Or how about Quebec taxpayers, with a new government in charge and $3-a-day nursery school privileges and spoiled university students who don't want to pay any tuition.

Canada, since Trudeau Sr., has been afflicted with spendthrifts and taxation levels that are simply too high. But that's rarely an issue here because it doesn't have to be and because it's more fun and easier to lampoon the Americans.

Instead, those of us with governments run by ostriches should be jealous. Without checks and balances, we will forever be bribed with our own money until the IMF, or testy bondholders, roll into town.

The Americans, by contrast, will eventually live almost within their means, keep taxes reasonable and fix their self-insurance programs after a lot of bruising and bashing.

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05:17 PM on 01/07/2013
Diane take note: Americans pay lower tax rates but the deficit has reached 16 trillion dollars. Why? Because revenue is 1 trillion dollars short of spending. And if you think you could just cut yearly spending by 1 trillion (and that would still not address the 16 trillion that has to be paid back), you would have a complete disaster, not just in services, but to the economy as a whole.
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Every silver lining has a cloud.
09:41 PM on 01/06/2013
Where to even begin...

"The Americans, and now the Australians, are the only nations that tax people on the basis of citizenship irrespective of residency" is just plain wrong. Substitute the failed state of Eritrea for Australia and you've got it right. Strange bedfellows the U.S. has chosen to represent the most illogical and immoral method of taxation ever created. In this context, Ms. Francis should have mentioned the looming disaster of FATCA (Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act) since she will soon find herself in its crosshairs along with a million so-called U.S. Persons living in Canada.

Francis also claims that “American governments pay half of all medical costs in U.S. or 7 per cent of GDP, the same 7 per cent as Canada and the others spend on healthcare for their citizens.” One might conclude that the per-capita cost of health-care is the same in the two countries, but that too is wrong. Who pays the other half of medical costs in the U.S. then, if it’s not the governments – the American people do! Francis fails to mention that half of ordinary Americans’ health-care dollars are wasted on vampiric health insurance companies which add zero value to the equation, resulting in a true GDP expenditure of 17.6% in 2009 and expected to surpass 20% by 2021! Americans pay more than double what the citizens do of industrialized nations with publicly-funded health care. A very misleading article.
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05:12 PM on 01/06/2013
Its a National Post writer, what else would they say? Theyve always disliked Canada. Just look at its founder who chose to leave his Canadian citizenship so he could sit on the House of Lords in Britain. Oh, and then jailed for fraud. Oh, and then rehired by the Port as a columnist.
At least they are better than any of the Sun properties.
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albertarick
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12:39 PM on 01/06/2013
"Americans pay lower income taxes than Canadians" Only because a whole lot more of them make less that Canadians.
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12:34 PM on 01/06/2013
Yes, we could all learn from this current debacle. I loved the 1 trillion $ Platinum coin idea. How rich! See you back around or before summer when the future debt ceiling will most likely be close to being breached.
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Jay from Ottawa
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10:56 AM on 01/05/2013
One of the biggest flaws in the American tax system .... Interest paid on mortgages is deductible...

The result ? Americans work tirelessly to NOT pay off their mortgage by constantly refinancing, ensuring they'll never pay off or truly own their home. It's why the housing bubble hurt them so much.

As a Canadian, I have no incentive to keep my mortgage maxed out so I did the opposite. I'm 29 and I'm mortgage free... So about the American tax code ?
10:34 PM on 01/05/2013
Completely agree, Jay. The US subsidy of mortgage interest is regressive, expensive, and counterproductive. People don't like to acknowledge that it's a subsidy, but of course it is - those who take on a mortgage claim the deduction and receive a net benefit in the form of reduced taxes.

The biggest beneficiaries of the interest subsidy are those who bought the biggest house, and are paying the greatest interest as a percentage of their income: the very definition of unaffordability. The money to fund the subsidy comes from the responsible ones, those who paid off their house, or avoid the huge debt to begin with.

Penalizing the responsible and using the proceeds to reward the irresponsible - that's the mortgage deduction. We Americans need to get rid of this absurd policy!
12:04 AM on 01/05/2013
the author seems to be completely unaware of the plain and simple fact that the economy does better under the Democrats than it does under the Republicans. Reagan tripled the debt and was the first president to preside over borrowing from a foreign country. He attacked unions by beginning with the air control. Dubya finished the whole thing off by having the gall to borrow from a foreign country to fight a war over oil (every rational person knew there were no wmd's. He was told half a million men would be needed for the war but he chose to go with a few. It cost a trillion dollars and destroyed Iraq and killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. The world will live with the consequences for at least a generation. Taxing the Koch brothers more will not hurt anybody especially the Koch brothers. And it can be easily handled by those who earn two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. America needs a good school system and it needs a good single payer health system. If you have the money then you will get top treatment for any health problem but if you don't good luck. Off shoring jobs and putting American workers (the best in the world) out of work so they didn't have an income to be taxed but it helped investors. A brief look at the loss of manufacturing, the failure to put in top quality transit etc. is killing Ontario.
07:04 PM on 01/04/2013
Part 2:
The reduction in tax has led to widespread social decay through many areas of the US; an attack against teachers & unions has further eroded the support systems in effort to reduce tax & reward the "job creators".

Cost of healthcare is astronomical & mental health support is weak further enforcing an "us vs. them" situation to create a more angry society. Combine that with lax gun laws & it becomes recipe for disaster. Even Americans understand taxes are required to pay for things.

Even in the US election the question came down to the issue of what type of society one would like to live in.

I am confident that the majority Cdns want a country that supports all different earners, provides social programs & requires all participants to pay their share. The Cdn tax system is a system based on ability to pay. This has created one of the most admirable societies in the world in which to live.

One can argue that we need better fiscal management by all Gov'ts - all parties have managed to squander large amounts of money when in power - but one cannot argue with our overall success - especially when compared to our neighbours.

It appears as though this article is self serving & part of a view from the privileged few who are looking to lower their burden because then can afford to.

I am hopeful the Cdn society will not change.
07:02 PM on 01/04/2013
Part 1:
The US system is hardly enviable & one I care not to emulate.

Their tax is more complex but favours the richest in the land. Because of Norquists' tax pledge, the US is raising taxes for the first time since Clinton's first term despite massive debts.

Comparing the two countries there is a stark difference & much is driven by the tax systems. Canada definitely has higher taxes, as do Norway, Sweden etc. These countries have high standard's of living & quality of life & imo, better places to live & raise a family.

While some complain about the Cdn tax system, it provides universal healthcare, social support systems, a better level of education and smaller income gap. As a result, Canada has a more equitable society.

While it is not perfect, I will gladly pay higher taxes to prevent the type of society that is directly south of us.

The Cdn tax system doesn't have the loopholes & exceptions mainly enjoyed by the uber wealthy. In short, everyone pays - not like the US system where nearly half paid no federal tax. Cdns also cannot "offshore" investments like the Americans further removing money from the economy.

The US system is an "every man for themselves" environment. As someone who travels extensively to the US, many US friends & an American father, I understand the system well. This has created an angry society & are well armed to enforce that view.
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06:47 PM on 01/04/2013
Is this article satire? How could this author not realize that America is literally imploding and on the verge of collapse largely due to their dysfunctional taxation system?

In the paragraph supposedly admonishing northern European countries, Canada, and Australia for their higher tax rates, the author fails to mention that those countries are, you know, not on the verge of complete societal meltdown as a result of more sensible taxation and are, in fact, the most fiscally sound nations on earth.

So yeah, Joe America pays less tax. But at what cost to society as a whole and at what cost to future generations? Isn't that the more important question??
10:37 PM on 01/04/2013
In 2002/2003 when the liberals took power of the province of Ontario, our debt was $132 billion. By 2011, it had almost doubled to $234 billion.

The provincial economy is worth about $640 billion annually. Soon, our debt will be HALF the value of our entire economy. The provincial government currently borrows $58 million each day!

Fiscally sound? Seriously? Stop listening to the lying politicians and start reading. If you are truly concetned about future geneerations, we have to control the debt now!!! Dalton drove us into poor house that your children/grandchildren may never afford. Sound familiar??
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westcoastkid
11:41 AM on 01/05/2013
Why did you post basically the same thing three times on this thread?
Makes you sound sort of obsessive....
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canobserv
10:10 AM on 01/06/2013
yeah...this article is about NATIONS...not parts of nations...federal as opposed to provincial....now what party is the only party to baance the FEDERAL books in the last 40 years?......if you said the Liberal Party under Martin then you would be correct...........you get a cookie
10:51 PM on 01/04/2013
Update

Ontario debt equals $269 Billion. $269,000,000,000.

Provincial Borrowing at a rate of over $60 million daily now.

Fiscally sound?
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westcoastkid
06:38 PM on 01/04/2013
Feigned outrage at Rae being elected with 37% of the vote, no mention of Harper elected PM with 39%.

Writes for the National Post.

Enough said?
11:55 AM on 01/06/2013
Nobody really takes anybody serious who tries to sell American insanity.
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01:46 PM on 01/06/2013
Yes she is a right wing propagandist, who works for a right wing "news" paper, but I think she is right when she says "Without checks and balances, we will forever be bribed with our own money until the IMF, or testy bondholders, roll into town."