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Part 2: Murder by Numbers

Posted: 12/28/11 10:14 AM ET

In this four-part series exclusive to Huffington Post, novelist and essayist Douglas Anthony Cooper examines the accusations of genocide that have been made against Israel by its critics. This section is a continuation of Part 1: "Genghis Khan With a Computer?"


THE TOTAL NUMBER of Israelis and Palestinians killed, in over half a century of conflict, is approximately 15,000. This includes all of the fatalities on both sides. The great majority of these have been armed enemy combatants.

I urge you to check these numbers for yourself. They are academically sound -- we have nowhere near the uncertainty that we have regarding, for instance, Stalinist Russia. The Polynational War Memorial calculates a total of 14,500, from 1948-2009. Add 272 casualties reported by B'Tselem (The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories) to bring us from 2009 to the present: 14,772. You can round that up to 15,000.

At the Memorial, the link to the Conflict Database at the University of Uppsala is broken: if you would like to go into the raw data -- and you should, if you have any doubts -- the dataset can be downloaded here. The various sources are examined in "The PRIO Battle Deaths Dataset." For the most accurate figures from 1987 to the present, consult "Statistics at B'Tselem."

If you're concerned about sources -- and you should be -- B'Tselem's figures have been criticized as biased in favor of the Palestinian cause, and Uppsala University, the source for the rest of the data, is more likely to have an anti-Israel bias than not. Nevertheless, both groups strike me as decent, academically rigorous liberals, who care about the truth. If their sympathies were to distort data, it certainly would not be in Israel's favor.

So: 15,000. The number of civilian casualties, on both sides, is a fraction of this: You will find no credible source placing that number in the five figures.

I shall also leave it to you to determine whether Israel targets civilians. Do your own research. Assume the very worst. You will be disappointed, but you will find allies. This is a good starting point: "Targeting Toddlers," an article in the left-wing Village Voice.

If 15,000 is the total for all lives lost, Palestinian and Israeli, armed and non-combatant, then the figure for unarmed civilian fatalities on the Palestinian side is what? You are welcome to try to whittle this figure down further. The truth is that you could devote your life to parsing this, and remain unsatisfied. The numbers are distorted by propagandists on both sides; they deal with ill-defined categories (what constitutes an armed combatant if there is no regular army?) All I can say with certainty is that the number of Palestinian non-combatants killed, since the founding of Israel, is in the four figures.

This should not be trivialized: Whether it is 4,000 or 8,000, we are talking about thousands of human beings, each an innocent civilian, loved and mourned. The difference between 6,000 and 6,001 is, to that person's family, everything.

What is beyond certain, however, is that this total is -- relative to the world's genocides and relative to the size of the populace -- astonishingly low. It is even surprisingly low relative to minor wars. For the likes of Norman Finkelstein in particular, it is scandalously low.

If you consider Israel to have committed anything that looks remotely like genocide, you are embracing an ignorance that is inseparable from the most vulgar forms of prejudice. It is so patently counterfactual that you cannot even call it bad history: It is simply slander. While it may not be anti-Semitism, always -- not strictly speaking -- it shares more than a little with the notorious blood libel: It is a lie calculated to conjure the image of the murderous Jew.

This fiction is not confined to a handful of demagogues. It is miserably pervasive. Search engines are notoriously imprecise, of course: When you plug the two words "Palestinian" and "genocide" into Google together, you will get thousands of results that do not promote this thesis, or have anything to do with the topic. Perhaps the large majority are completely unconnected. That is not very comforting, however, when you are talking about well over 13 million hits.

If we are attacking straw men here, it is a militant empire of straw men.

For evidence, we can restrict ourselves to just one of the myriad of websites that come up, like this one you're reading now. We hear the following from Huffington Post "Level 2 Super User" "stevecaudill": "The supposedly 'chosen' group considers all non-members as lesser human. [sic] And thus, the 'chosen' elite have no moral qualms about inciting racist genocide."

If you consider Israel a genocidal nation, you are either incapable of distinguishing between a pond and an ocean, or you are -- more likely -- a bigot.

I am not simply referring to the fact that the Palestinian people are very much alive: Israel-haters conceptualize this as a botched genocide. I am referring to the fact -- the hard, numeric, undeniable fact -- of how many Palestinians have died in the conflict with Israeli Jews over the course of six decades. This toll would be an afternoon's work on the part of any actually genocidal people.

Every day during the Rwandan massacre, 10,000 civilians were murdered. Mostly with machetes. Despite much more efficient and appalling weaponry, the civilian tally in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict -- including deaths on both sides -- has not reached that daily figure in over half a century.

There is certainly much to criticize in Israel. The plight of the Palestinians is very real, and some Israelis have evinced bigotry bordering on fascism: In particular, the most virulent among the settlers of the West Bank. The settlers account for 4.1 per cent of Israel's total population, however, and they are not homogeneous in their attitudes towards the Palestinians.

The Haredim, the ultra-religious, form some 10 per cent of the populace, and while the worst of them still revere Rabbi Meir Kahane -- whose fascist Kach party has been outlawed in Israel -- the Haredim cannot be counted on for toxic anti-Palestinian views: some are in fact hostile to Zionism.

There are other ways of identifying extremism in Israel: For instance, the centre-right Likud party has about 135,000 registered members, 22,000 of whom are identified as "ideological" -- that is, hardline nationalists. (Both of these numbers have been rising rapidly in the last couple of years, which is truly disturbing.) Add to those the membership of smaller parties entirely made up of ultra-nationalists and hard-right religious zealots. There is no question that Israel harbors a minority of extremists, and some of them are venomous.

Full disclosure: I do not like these people. At all. I never have. In case there is any doubt, my research here is predicated on an unwavering principle: An innocent Palestinian life is as valuable as an innocent Israeli life. Period. The loss is equal. It is obscene to suggest otherwise.

If I were an Israeli, I would be spending much of my time campaigning against the right wing. Israel's liberal population may be disheartened at the moment, much as Democrats were under Bush, but it remains powerful. I assure you I would be working with them towards dismantling the settlements, and hammering out a two-state solution. In fact, I do just that to the best of my abilities, as a Canadian Jew in Mexico.

That, needless to say, is not good enough. It does not redeem me. Especially as a novelist: I am expected to share certain opinions. How can I not hate this country?

Some years ago, although I generally have principles, I found myself teaching at a writers' workshop. One night I escaped to go drinking with two of my partners in snake oil. They were interesting men: one white, the other black, and both famous for their fierce dissection of colonial hypocrisy. The first was from Australia and the second from Britain, but it quickly became clear that they knew each other well. They went to the same parties in London and in New York. They name-checked the same people. They agreed on important issues.

That made three liberals at the table. Or so I imagined.

The Australian -- an important, perhaps even a great novelist -- mentioned an even more famous American writer, and noted that she was hopeless: "Israel." The British writer sighed and shook his head, in complete sympathy. I did not sigh. I was expected at the very least to shake my head. When I did neither, the weather changed. Nothing was said, but we know when a warm conversation is no longer. Was I perhaps ignorant? Worse: Were they seated with a Zionist? The chill between us has lasted after since.

It would have been complicated, to say the least -- culturally and racially -- but in retrospect I feel cowardly for not confronting this celebrated post-colonial firebrand: a white Australian raised, as they all are, on aboriginal land.

Not that I can pretend to higher national ground. I am a Canadian, and our treatment of the indigenous -- our reservation system -- is said to have been studied by South Africa as an inspiration for apartheid. Still, I prefer guilt to hypocrisy.

Martin Luther King -- although his heart was in the right place (always) -- probably had this wrong: "When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews. You are talking anti-Semitism." The truth is more subtle: Israel-hatred is not anti-Semitism. It has its own character. It cannot always be reduced.

This hatred takes a form, ironically, that is rooted in Jewish philosophy: a problem called "The Scandal of Particularity." I do not pretend to have the learning to do it justice, but it concerns, in brief, the concept of being chosen: How can one people stand apart, with regard to their relationship to a universal God?

Chosenness is not entirely desirable. Emil Fackenheim, the Jewish philosopher, once related a parable in class: At Mt. Sinai, what God in fact did was levitate the mountain over the heads of the Israelites, while asking them -- in tones more appropriate to the Godfather -- whether they accepted His offer to become the Chosen People.

It is a good thing the Jews have a sense of humour. The paradox at the core of our being is in fact funny. When it is not being evoked to hang us from hooks and flay us.

Israel hatred arises from a perverse secular strand of the same problem. How can one nation define itself by reference to a single religion? Other nations enforce religious and ideological purity much more severely than Israel -- through religious law, or expulsion, or slaughter -- but there is something uniquely troubling about this one country. Israel is a modern state, founded on the principles of democracy, with a legal system based mostly in common law, yet it has this paradox at its centre. This is, in fact, the Scandal of Particularity: an appeal at once to Kantian universality (our common ethic, as defined by our humanity) and chosenness (the Jewish people).

It is an interesting paradox. Historically, it has stood quietly in the shadows behind every argument for the elimination of the Jews.

Of course, for some, Israel hatred is in fact an expression of anti-Semitism. If you want an archetype -- a symbol of this group so grotesque that it borders on a cartoon -- you can have Dr. Aribert Ferdinand Heim, whose practice at the Mauthausan concentration camp arguably places him in that circle of hell even below Dr. Mengele's.

"Dr. Heim was accused of performing operations on prisoners without anesthesia; removing organs from healthy inmates, then leaving them to die on the operating table." If a prisoner at Mauthausan showed particularly superb dentition, Heim would "kill the prisoner with an injection, cut his head off, leave it to cook in the crematorium for hours, until all the flesh was stripped from the naked skull, and prepare the skull for himself and his friends as a decoration for their desks."

Heim was for a long time the most wanted of the living Nazi war criminals. The Simon Wiesenthal Center assumed he was in South America. Only after he died in 1992 was it ascertained that Dr. Aribert Heim had lived out his final years, peacefully, in Egypt. There he apparently spent most of his time obsessing about the Jewish lobby in America, and what he considered the "massacre" of the Palestinians.

We have to make a clear distinction between this ghoul and many of the hundreds of thousands worldwide who happen to share his views, some of them quite humane liberals. Israel haters occupy a spectrum, from Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the president of Iran -- whose soul probably has much the same shade as Heim's -- to, for instance, a perfectly nice musicologist who runs a Bob Dylan site in Sweden, but makes a point of blocking Israeli IP addresses from gaining access. Somewhere in between you have the famous Normal Finkelstein, the son of Holocaust survivors -- who has said, as I noted above: "Sometimes I feel that Israel has come out of the boils of hell, a satanic state." (His mother survived Majdanek. His father Auschwitz.)

My only hope here is to persuade the liberals: the novelists and musicologists of the world. Monstrous anti-Semites are a different species of hardened bigot, and I cannot expect to put a scratch in the surface of their hatred. Norman Finkelstein is also probably beyond the powers of persuasion. He is a complex phenomenon, and I genuinely pity him: It cannot have been easy to be the son of survivors. He was in fact one step removed from the boils of hell. I do not want to imagine the ghosts that sat in the empty chairs at the family dinner table, always ready to whisper in the silence between conversation.

It is undeniable, however, that many good-hearted liberals lean very much on Finkelstein for their views. They imagine he speaks for them. Hence, when Norman Finkelstein describes Israel as "Genghis Khan with a computer," it is your moral duty to do some simple math.

Civilians killed by Israel in fifty years (most of them not deliberately targeted), number at most a few thousand. Genghis Khan -- despite computer illiteracy -- is responsible for what was almost certainly the greatest bloodbath in pre-modern history. Finkelstein is not merely exaggerating. He is not using poetic license. He is carefully and viciously slandering an entire people.

The quotation above is excerpted from this: "I have some good friends and their families there, and of course I would not want any of them to be hurt. That said, sometimes I feel that Israel has come out of the boils of hell, a satanic state."

It is worth taking a brief look at the boils of hell. By coincidence, the concentration camp that Finkelstein's mother survived -- Majdanek -- is associated with the largest single massacre in the history of the death camps. "Operation Harvest Festival" was punishment mostly for the uprising in Treblinka: part of it involved rounding up and shooting 18,000 Jews. In a single day. In one methodical operation -- in one location -- more people were deliberately butchered than all of the Palestinians and Israelis who have died in the conflict, soldiers and civilians, in fifty years. In one day.

Operation Harvest Festival lasted for two days, however. And it was not restricted to Majdanek. By the end of the second day, 42,000 Jews had been exterminated.

So much for "the boils of hell." Arguably, however, it is the first part of Finkelstein's statement -- the generous, sympathetic remark -- which is the most revolting: "I have some good friends and their families there, and of course I would not want any of them to be hurt."

Let us be utterly clear. The famous blood libel in Europe was no mere insult: It was responsible for centuries of misery. Jews were, yes, hurt. They were in fact exiled, tortured and slaughtered, based on the widely accepted belief that they murdered gentile children and used the blood in the Passover service.

The widely accepted belief that Israel is a genocidal nation is not quite the same, true. It is worse. It is far worse. Finkelstein does not use the word "genocide" here, but -- even though he does not want to see any of his good Israeli friends hurt -- he would have you believe that the Israeli state is comparable to Genghis Khan's Mongols, who butchered millions, who slaughtered three out of every four people on the Iranian Plateau.

Tomorrow Part 3: A Matter of Lies and Death.

 
 
 

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Bec DeCorbeau
Le langage de l'invisible est le silence
02:01 PM on 12/31/2011
Is this genocide? In the sense that the Jews wants to annihilate a nation, yes. It’s not only the deaths that cause genocide. It’s the will to destroy a nation to. Just like the Jew nation that was so many time in history close to annihilation. The same his happening to the Palestinians and nobody cares, because a GREATER nation is involved.

The Jews are ready to annihilate the Palestinians nation (genocide) to get the Palestinian land. It is as simple as that and nobody cares.

Try to demolish homes in Florida and tell the Americans to get out! We the Chinese people want the land! See what happens…

Sadly, there is only one solution if we don’t want a blood bath. The Palestinian should sell there land to the Jews. Because the world is ready to let the Palestinians nation disappear of the map to let the Jews take over. Nothing can be done.
04:50 PM on 01/20/2012
How close-minded can a person be? Or maybe you are simply living on a remote island, but then how come you have Internet? Don't you know that Israel withdrew from the Gaza strip and vast areas in the West Bank are also under Palestinian control? How does this coincide with what you claim? How come Israel is giving away territory to the Palestinians go along with your claim that they want to control the entire land? You are simply blind it seems. Not to mention that so many Israeli governments have tried to reach an agreement with the Palestinians but have been rewarded by more cycles of violence or cold shoulders.

You are simply hopeless. Continue living in the dark, it suits you.
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unitron
My email notifications are in Spanish now...
11:22 AM on 12/29/2011
So, do low numbers mean Israel is not commiting genocide, or that they are but that they aren't very good at it, or that they are but that they're doing it very slowly?
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BcemXAHA
Yerushalaim shel zahav
10:05 AM on 01/02/2012
It would be helpful to you if you actually read the article.
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08:20 AM on 12/29/2011
Between 1960 and 2010, 895,262 people were murdered in the United States of America.
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06:26 AM on 12/29/2011
Interesting that you assume that the Australian (living on aboriginal land) was suffering from hypocrisy, rather than your more acceptable guilt (living on indigenous land). As neither of you appear to have discussed his views, this can only be a fairly judgmental assumption on your part.
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LoneTree
Don't shelter me from criticism.
12:46 AM on 12/31/2011
I believe the author was bookending the assumptive attitude of the Australian as a literary construct.
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montecristo5000
05:30 AM on 12/29/2011
Israel only works if, like the writer, you subscribe to the idea (or decree, if you are so inclined) that God gave this country to his Chosen People. That means that everyone, of every faith, is essentially being asked to buy into this idea.

And it also explains Israeli Exceptionism. The "ratios" people have been talking about. And the planning laws. Border controls, draconians rules. Some horrific things this country does, it does in the confidence that it has the backing of GOD. And you can't reason with that. You LITERALLY can't reason with that.
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
12:21 PM on 12/29/2011
Arabs have far more rights in Israel than they have in any of the neighboring arab countries...

And where did the Palestinians come from?
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LoneTree
Don't shelter me from criticism.
12:48 AM on 12/31/2011
Genetic investigation (DNA sequencing) has established that today's Palestinians descended from 1st Century Christians and Jews of Israel and Judeah.
09:10 AM on 12/31/2011
Strawman. The debate is not about other Arab countries. The latter who dont claim the moral high ground in any case by claiming to be the only 'democracy' in the ME.
If you want to, independently, criticise Arab countries, by all means, let's start with the Saudis... But let's not distract the argument by pointing to our neighbours' faults in a bid that we will stop focussing on our own doorstep, huh?
It doesnt advance the dialogue.
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LoneTree
Don't shelter me from criticism.
12:51 AM on 12/31/2011
"Israel only works if, like the writer, you subscribe to the idea (or decree, if you are so inclined) that God gave this country to his Chosen People."

Not so. Without any reference to ancient or modern history, contentious and conflicting claims, outrage, indiginity, or anything else, we can see whether Israel "work" or not. Let's disregard EVERYTHING that cannot be objectively verified in the present, without reference to any disputed history:

Under Anglo-American and Scottish common law, Israel carries the case:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possession_is_nine-tenths_of_the_law

No need to refer to anything we cannot and observe with our own eyes.
09:11 AM on 12/31/2011
So you're saying if I steal something then its mine and the law cannot prosecute me because I am in possession of it?
04:52 AM on 12/29/2011
I'm somewhat amused by this tactic of those who seek to delegitimise Israel, this attempt to establish a 'ratio' of casualties on each side in an attempt to portray Israel in a bad light. Nothing is said about the utter madness of attacking Israel when this only provokes a response...a response with consequences. It's very reminiscent of a brilliant story called "The Day They Got Boston," in which Cold War madness is applied to an accidental nuclear strike and calls for equivalence.
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unitron
My email notifications are in Spanish now...
11:07 AM on 12/29/2011
Did that get turned into a movie with Henry Fonda as the president?
11:53 AM on 12/30/2011
Sadly, no. But it's quite similar to "Failsafe," only with black comedy as the US and USSR negotiated over how to equalise the situation. What would the USSR offer in exchange for having accidentally obliterating Boston, and what would the US accept? Strongly recommended short story!
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Nick Hatch
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04:28 AM on 12/29/2011
Israel shows remarkable restraint given that they are surrounded by hostile nations and Palestine is a regular source of unguided rocket attacks against innocent Israeli citizens. And when the great bear that is Israel finally retaliates against the small pests throwing rocks, these same pests hide behind civilian targets like hospitals and schools, vastly increasing the Palestinian civilian casualties.
09:15 AM on 12/31/2011
you have a lot of catchin up to do, youre so misinformed, its tragic.
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Nick Hatch
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
07:48 PM on 01/03/2012
"you're", and clearly I'm not alone. Do inform away dear Gemma08...
11:46 AM on 01/22/2012
Oh really? Kindly explain what part of his comments would lead you to believe that he is misinformed? It is you who has their head in the sand.
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BcemXAHA
Yerushalaim shel zahav
10:08 AM on 01/02/2012
Nick,

Faved and Fanned.
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Viable Way
06:09 AM on 12/29/2011
Nothing in that link indicates Palestinians killed in the last 60 years. What is your point?
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11:40 AM on 12/29/2011
That whatever the number is, from an Israeli point of view, it's too low.
01:20 AM on 12/29/2011
6 to 1.
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12:19 AM on 12/29/2011
Call me whatever you want, Call it whatever you want, just stop the systematic destruction of Palestina and its people.
04:47 AM on 12/29/2011
Curious. Why don't the Palestinians reject violence, en masse, and get busy BUILDING and creating something worthy? Rejection of "jihad" and terror and violence would invite international investment and aid, leading to stability, viability and opportunity for the Palestinians. Hamas is NOT the path to a viable, prosperous future. Nor is the idea of making "peace" now as a step toward eradicating Israel in stages.
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montecristo5000
05:34 AM on 12/29/2011
Because their land is being taken away day by the day, in a structured campaign to destroy the possibility of a Palestinian homeland.

As for "building", the Israelis do that on Palestinian land every day. They've knocked down 25,000 Palestinian homes. Israel is not on the path to a peaceful future, it has no interest in it. They just want the land, and will do what they have to to get it.
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Larry Motuz
Lawless markets lead ill-gotten gains.
06:34 PM on 12/31/2011
Have you 'heard' of the Israeli embargo? Or, what's being embargoed?

And, does that matter to your statement?
Thelonius
Lived in Middle East for
11:50 PM on 12/28/2011
Timely Gaza Strip press release:

http://electronicintifada.net/blog/benjamin-doherty/open-letter-gaza-three-years-after-massacre-justice-or-nothing

"Open Letter from Gaza: 3 Years after the Massacre, Justice or Nothing!"

Benjamin Doherty, 12/27/11

EXCERPTS:

"We, Palestinians of Gaza, 3 years on from the 22-day long massacre in Israel’s operation ‘Cast Lead’, are calling on international civil society to make 2012 the year when solidarity with us in Palestine captures the spark of the revolutions around the Arab world and never looks back. On this anniversary we demand an international liberation movement that eventually leads to just that, liberation for us Palestinians from 63 years of brutal military occupation and ethnic cleansing that pours shame on any organisation or government claiming to endorse universal human rights.

"We will never forget the hurt of 3 years ago, the criminal onslaught that we lived through, the blood of over 1400 murdered men, women and hundreds of children running through the streets of Gaza, between the rubble, soaking our beds and etched on our minds. We will never forget. For they are still dead, and thousands more are still maimed.

"We will never forget the last 63 years during which our land, homes, olive groves, lemon trees and cherished way of life was taken away from us, while Israeli soldiers held our fathers’ faces in the sands, imprisoned them, or shot them in front of us. We will not forget the cowardice of the international community...."
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LoneTree
Don't shelter me from criticism.
12:55 AM on 12/31/2011
The solution is within their grasp.
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Larry Motuz
Lawless markets lead ill-gotten gains.
06:38 PM on 12/31/2011
The last time I tried to grasp a "solution", it leaked out.
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BcemXAHA
Yerushalaim shel zahav
10:13 AM on 01/02/2012
Mr.Inane,

All that they have to do is put down their weapons and negotiate, all that they have to do is rid themselves of their barbaric ways. That's always been the case.
11:30 PM on 12/28/2011
Why does the author not note the proportion of deaths? According to B'Tselem the ratio is over 6 Palestinians killed for every Israeli. See http://www.ifamericaknew.org/stats/deaths.html. Of course, this is much more balanced than the approximate 100:1 ratio during Israel's triumphal "Operation Cast Lead."
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Viable Way
06:13 AM on 12/29/2011
What do you mean? Are you saying Palestinians are bad soldiers so they are getting killed, or are they in the wrong place?

Your link goes nowhere so your claims are unverifiable.

What are the Israelis doing wrong in your opinion? What would you do to Israelis if you were in control of the land?
01:55 PM on 12/29/2011
No, I'm not saying Palestinians are bad soldiers (and I admit that Israeli soldiers are very efficient). No, I'm not saying Palestinians are in the wrong place - they are at home.
The link is to If Americans Knew, which quotes B'Tselem. Here's the link: http://www.ifamericaknew.org/stats/deaths.html. I think it might help if you took a moment to look at the graphs.
In my opinion, the Israelis are doing wrong by occupying Palestinian lands and refusing to accept the Green Line as the legitimate boundary between the two peoples.
I would not "do" anything to the Israelis, and certainly not use violent means except for self-defense. I think Israel's current policies are, however, creating the greatest existential threat to the country.
Finally, I have lived in the Middle East and have traveled extensively in Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza, meeting with Israelis and Palestinians often. These are not uninformed views, and particularly not ideologically driven.
I hope the link works this time, and thanks for your comment.
Zigzagtom
11:17 PM on 12/28/2011
Speechless.
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10:50 PM on 12/28/2011
Your part one is headlined with a Finkelstein quote and your part two ends with him. He's the only serious scholar you mention, you suggest that his parents' experience of the holocaust may have unsettled his mind, and finally, after hundreds of words about the true craziness of real anti-Semites, you tell us that Finkelstein himself does not call it "genocide". So, why is he here?

Finkelstein's quips are sometimes offensive; his irony is a little too academic to be funny. "Ghengis Khan" is certainly one of those. (Anyone who wants to see it first hand can check normanfinkelstein.com.)

But he's not in league with the roll-call of monsters that you have read out here. His work is tediously researched and backed up by traceable data.

As for your numbers of deaths, whether or not they constitute genocide by the UN's definition, they are too large for a country that enjoys the fierce support of Canada's government.

Finally, thank you for you hat-tip to the two-state solution. Here, you and Finkelstein agree. But it's too late. Netanyahu just said so.
03:57 PM on 01/21/2012
Wrong. There is nothing remotely factual or research based in any of Finkelstein's arguments against Israel.
Example (there are many but this really sticks out): after the second Lebanon War in 2006, Finkelstein made the ridiculous claim that Israel was preparing for the war all along and used the abduction of their soldiers as an excuse. Anybody that happened to be in Israel at the time knows that this is laughable, and all the top military officials in the IDF have admitted to being ill-equipped, ill-prepared, and caught totally off guard. Still Finkelstein continues to propagate this lie.
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12:49 AM on 01/22/2012
We differ. The IDF claimed to have been ill-equipped and ill-prepared because they expected to win a war that was just a stalemate. That was a surprise. Israel had to lift the naval blockade and Hezbollah was shown to have effective missiles.

The IDF, as always, was prepared to fight -- they just weren't aware what they would be fighting.
10:40 PM on 12/28/2011
Shame on you for using numbers to justify the way Israel is treating the Palestinians when they are on completely different playing fields in every way.
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Nick Hatch
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
04:35 AM on 12/29/2011
I didn't get that he was using numbers to justify Israel's behaviour - just that he was using numbers to rebut the suggestion that Israel is committing genocide. I believe that word should be saved for the true scale of horror and intent it was originally meant to connote.