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Politicians Pass the Buck with B.C. Debt

Posted: 03/ 2/2012 2:00 pm

One year ago, the Canadian Taxpayers Federation re-launched its legendary debt clock in Victoria. The debt clock is a remarkable tool because it is incapable of political spin. It can't blame some vague global economic situation or a previous government. It doesn't give out lengthy treatises on the value of public services or the importance of stimulus packages in sagging economies.

The debt clock just sits there, relentlessly counting up the amount of debt our elected officials have put on taxpayers.

When the debt clock was in Victoria last February, the B.C. government debt was $46.7 billion. Today, it's $51 billion. By the end of the 2012-13 budget year, it will hit $57.6 billion. And in 2015, it will rise to $66.4 billion--despite two years of planned surplus budgets.

Think about that for a second (oh, and by the way, in that second, B.C.'s debt rose $213). Our debt is $12,891 per person in B.C.

That's just our provincial debt. Many municipalities have huge borrowing obligations and the federal government's debt is now sitting at $582 billion -- almost $17,000 for every Canadian alive today. Add that to the B.C. total, and we're each $30,000 in debt thanks to government.

The real shame of it is that, in 2007, B.C.'s debt was $33.4 billion. But the world economic situation soured, and government spending kept increasing at twice the rate of inflation. When the bad times came, government wasn't ready and we went further into debt. Eight years later, the debt will have doubled.

It's time for taxpayers to fret about provincial debt. This year, B.C. taxpayers will pay more than $2.5 billion just in interest payments. Our debt is causing us to go further in debt. If we didn't have to pay interest, we would have a $1.5 billion surplus this year.

That $2.5 billion payment means six cents out of every dollar you send to Victoria is being wasted paying interest on the debt. And the payment keeps going up: next year it will be $2.66 billion, the year after $2.89 billion--just in interest.

This growing interest payment will increasingly limit government's ability to fund health care, education and other priorities, and to respond to crisis.

Debt is incredibly selfish; it is about our generation saying to the future: "our needs are more important than yours -- so pay for us so that we can have what we want." Good parents would never say that to their children, but this is what society says with its spending.

Debt can be turned around, and one need only look to former Alberta premier Ralph Klein to see how. The first step is to balance the budget every year, which B.C. is set to do in 2013. The government needs to restructure itself, ensuring it is lean and efficient, and only does the things that governments should be doing -- no frills, please.

Once government has a clear handle on its role and function, it can develop, and stick to a debt reduction plan.

Alberta, under Ralph Klein, passed a law ordering that 75 per cent of budgetary surpluses be directed toward debt retirement -- not election promises, politicians' pet projects or goodies for supportive ridings. Twelve years later, Alberta taxpayers went from paying $1.7 billion a year in debt interest to paying zero. On March 31, 2005, Alberta was out of debt. Alberta politicians had the tool they needed to say no to special interest groups wanting to cut everyone else's pay to pad their own.

Without a plan, B.C.'s debt will continue to rise. It takes a long-term strategy to dig a province out of debt, but it can be done -- but only if we have tools like debt repayment legislation, and leaders disciplined enough to stick with it.

 

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One year ago, the Canadian Taxpayers Federation re-launched its legendary debt clock in Victoria. The debt clock is a remarkable tool because it is incapable of political spin. It can't blame some vag...
One year ago, the Canadian Taxpayers Federation re-launched its legendary debt clock in Victoria. The debt clock is a remarkable tool because it is incapable of political spin. It can't blame some vag...
 
 
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Jack Hope
Occasionally quoted by Mainstream Media
09:08 PM on 03/10/2012
It's not really surprising that the Canadian Taxpayers Federation (who don't really represent either Canadians, or Taxpayers, but they are a Federation of some kind!) prefer something like a "Debt Clock."

It just sits there, counting away, completely free of context or explanation or thought. Why think about when you can just have a clock counting off a number in a complete vacuum?

But hey, at least the CTF finally admitted that they don't care about rationale, or economic situations, or you know, any facts other than the dollar figure. Having a thought-free mental process must be quite liberating.

By the way, how's Alberta doing on the debt front, 7 years after they became "debt free?"
02:45 PM on 03/07/2012
Now folks, have a little heart for the CTF. They almost had it all; thr triumph of the free market, GWB in power in the US, progressives on the run over government expenditures. And finally, the dream come true: Harper as government. It must have hurt like hell when it all came crashing down and it turned out the the villian behind the collapse of the west was... wait for it....

Private capital. Ouch! And to rub salt into the wound, the place people turned to for a solution? Without a hesitation despite decades of right wing propaganda about the evils of statism? Governments and Government Spending!!! Double Ouch!!! So, in the spirit of grace, lets not kick the CTF in the head when they are down. Let them mourn in peace while the rest of us keep the western world functional.
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Planarama
Common sense will one day prevail.
05:33 PM on 03/03/2012
Debt can be turned around....if you have a lot of oil in the ground. Otherwise, it is a painful and slow process.

Just ask Paul Martin who did it without oil revenues.
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John Brian Shannon
08:51 PM on 03/03/2012
We would have been where Greece is today, if former Prime Minister Jean Chretien and former (at the time) Finance Minister Paul Martin hadn't addressed our obscene government debt.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/the-lesson-from-canada-on-cutting-deficits/article2243702/

http://www.scoop.it/t/politics-in-the-21st-century

Three cheers for Chretien and Martin - and this from a conservative!

Thanks for bringing it up. JBS
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Planarama
Common sense will one day prevail.
11:58 AM on 03/04/2012
I had to bring it up as you pointed to Ralph Klein as a comparison for BC to follow but the BC situation is not as rosy as Alberta's was due to the lack of oil revenue.

In the BC scenario, the deficit will have to be reduced in an approach similar to what Martin did in the 90s.

That being stated, as a lefty, I am supportive of the BC Liberal government's decision to raise the corporate income tax slightly as a part of their deficit reduction program.

We all get a little back from the taxes we pay and the corporations who/that operate in BC get one of the most highly education pools of labour in the world to hire from.
10:48 AM on 03/03/2012
So it's a good idea to starve the province of investment just to save some pennies on interest. If businesses were run that way they'd be never off the ground.
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John Brian Shannon
09:19 PM on 03/03/2012
It's not pennies anymore. During the 1990's a third of all government revenues were paid to service government debt.

http://publications.gc.ca/collections/Collection/F2-105-1995E.pdf

" The cost of servicing Canada's debt is crowding out all other spending. Roughly 30 per cent of total spending is to cover debt servicing costs."

"...crowding out all other spending."

Countries go bankrupt when "debt financing costs, crowd out other spending" - OR - they must undergo severe austerity measures forced on them by the other governments which may decide to bail them out - as has happened in Greece, Portugal, Spain, etc...

Nowadays, the federal government is spending about 10% of all revenue collected on debt and deficit financing costs. It's on track to get exponentially worse as soon as interest rates begin to rise again.

Once the gov't pays that money out as interest, it is gone to another country, it is never coming back. And this continues to happen decade after decade in Canada - bankers in Asia get rich, while our country's wealth dissipates.

Some links for you to demonstrate how serious the situation is:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/taxseason/story/2010/02/25/f-federal-budget-interest-rates-debt.html

http://www.economist.com/content/global_debt_clock

http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock

http://www.scoop.it/t/politics-in-the-21st-century

If businesses were run like the government, the owners would go to prison.

Best Regards, JBS
11:54 AM on 03/04/2012
That was a choice. The Bank of Canada under John Crow, in the name of creating unemployment as part of his zero inflation strategy, stuck Canada with very high real interest rates. That pushed up the interest charges. Also there was the payments on the debts incurred during even higher nominal interest rates days during the unemployment creating Bank policies in the early '80s which resulted in real interest rates on that debt beyond belief. Right now there are no debts on the books with this kind of real interest rates. Those high interest charges were the legacy of the war against inflation.
11:59 AM on 03/04/2012
Say I bought a long-term bond in 1983 for over 10% right and inflation is down to 2% in 1992.. that's over 8% of a real interest rate...I don't have the exact figures but it conveys the gist of what I'm trying to say. The nominal interest rates were very high in the early and even the mid 80s and there were still bonds out with these rates in the early '90s. Eventually, as the time when interest rates were so high receded, this kind of situation did not happen any more. However, John Crow did stick the rates far too high in the late '80s and early '90s and this served to cause much in the way of unnecessary interest payments as well as a lower GDP and higher unemployment.
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BigLittle
01:29 AM on 03/03/2012
Oh yeah, follow Ralph's method. You clear up your credit card debt by selling your house. But then where do you live?
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JBSCanada
They paved Paradise and put up a parking lot!
12:54 AM on 03/03/2012
It's a timely article Jordan.

The Economist's global debt clock gives quite different numbers for Canada's debt, but there is a wealth of information there. You can compare different countries, research different years and search by topic (debt per capita, total federal gov't debt etc..) hover on the map of the world to see a snapshot.

Notice Canada and the U.S. - always in the "red" in every category. http://www.economist.com/content/global_debt_clock

If you want to be really scared, go look at the U.S. debt clock - some excellent links there:
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock

(although per capita, Canada is worse off than the U.S.)

Kudos to the Canadian Taxpayers Federation for setting up their debt clock. It's definitely not a 'sexy' political topic, but we will get 'eaten' if we don't address it now.

Former PM Jean Chretien and former Finance Minister Paul Martin proved it can be done - when they took Canada from near-insolvency to ZERO deficit and made significant paydowns on the federal gov't debt -- but look at the reward they got for doing it - Stephen Harper as PM!

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/the-lesson-from-canada-on-cutting-deficits/article2243702/

C'mon taxpayers, wise up, it can't be all toys and goodies all the time. We need to pay our bills.

Visit my economics website, lots of links there: http://www.scoop.it/t/politics-in-the-21st-century

Cheers! JBS
10:51 AM on 03/03/2012
These toys and goodies are the prerequesites of civilisation and are vital to moving the economy. Removing these things kills the economy. Greece proves it. National debts are absolutely required in any country without an extremely massive trade surplus .
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Jordan Bateman
11:35 AM on 03/03/2012
Superb comment from someone who understands Economics 101: try not to spend more than you have.
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albertarick
These are questions for wise men with skinny arms
05:59 PM on 03/02/2012
Ya, ya, Alberta was debt free in 2005, explain why the debt servicing cost in Alberta have been in the $300,000,000.00 to $600,000,000.00 per year ever since. If I have no debt how come it costs so much to service nothing? Maybe check with Ralph.
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albertarick
These are questions for wise men with skinny arms
05:48 PM on 03/02/2012
I would look elsewhere than Ralph Klein for your hero. He was simply the beneficiary of a very hot market in commodities and if anything did a large amount of long term damage to our economy by selling out our resources for ridiculously undervalued royalty rates.
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Jordan Bateman
11:36 AM on 03/03/2012
At least Klein had a plan to deal with debt... No one else does right now, except for shoving their heads further into the sand.
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albertarick
These are questions for wise men with skinny arms
03:06 PM on 03/03/2012
Further to your Klein demagoguery, How is it that Alberta has no debt since 2005 and still pays between a $280,000,000 in 05/06 and $531,000,000 in 12/13 on debt servicing???? The debt is still there, all that has happened is an infrastructure debt has been added. These numbers are from the provincial governments own website.