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I was Bullied by Cyber Lesbians

Posted: 04/ 7/2012 12:00 am

In 2007, while using gay social media to connect with women online, I found myself the victim of bullying on the UK lesbian site Gingerbeer. My experiences on websites like Gingerbeer and gay.com led me to remark a certain force of behavioural homogenization at work within the lesbian community and I quickly fled these spaces with more questions than answers. I wondered why allegedly democratic forums such as social networking sites which rely on the written word as their primary form of communication would attract so many for whom verbal or written communication seems to be a challenge at best.

It seemed quite ironic that those who were able to express themselves with respect towards others in the group were repressed and bullied on a regular basis while those women who tended towards monosyllabic grunts -- "LOL" and "ROTFL" -- dominated the chat rooms. Many who were bullied would simply leave these spaces stating: "I left the closet for this?" and other similar expressions of dismay.

Those harassed were able to perceive what they saw as the need for these bullies to homogenize opinion, to force consensus and to marginalize all those cyber-subjects with whom they did not agree.

Social homogenization is one of the most frightening commonalities I have found within lesbian culture -- in real life and in cyber-space. I wondered why a group of women, many of whom were heretofore oppressed within their own communities and family for reasons of their sexuality, would be so aggressive and unkind towards other women.

I could not avoid analyzing how these tactics of cyber-bullying mirrored those of the previously dominant hetero-normative groups and political structures. I had to wonder if the social perversion of bullying that I had witnessed and was victim to might also be part of a larger continuum of internalised homophobia wherein many lesbians today need to obliterate any type of "difference." The social characteristics that were perceived as a threat from these women were essentially attached to anyone whom they sensed was educated, independent and who did not go along with the bullies' monolithic notions of identity.

Last fall I joined Southbank Surfing, a monthly lesbian event in London. The Facebook page contained a host of topics with threads devoted to sharing salutations, drunken exploits and those members who were Southbank Surfing "virgins" asking to be "devirginized." I found some threads problematic for obvious reasons, but I was happy to find a group of women with whom I could dialogue and meet monthly in a venue that was not a sports' bar.

Some of the women I met at these events seemed friendly and intelligent and we touched base on the Facebook page. I remember many lengthy threads in December focusing on Christmas and vacation plans. However, when I had posted about Hannukah, that post mysteriously disappeared. The next day I saw a new friend, Rose, online and we mentioned a Muslim holiday -- those posts were also deleted. I found it strange that all the posts referring to hangovers, Christmas, personal holidays and even private parties were left up on this website but ours were taken down. The organizers later told us that they were doing "spring cleaning" and these posts were "accidentally deleted."

Then five weeks ago, I noticed posts relating the lack of wheelchair access were removed and we were given a mandate by the "organizers" to follow the "rules" of posting. Here are the rules: no commercial advertisements, no long chats which were "off-topic" and no rudeness or offensive language. It was evident that the posts whose removal I had already witnessed did not violate any of the rules. I posted on the "rules" thread that we should be more tolerant to diversity of posts especially those relating to wheelchair access. From my post over a dozen bullies came on to harass me, telling me to leave, to stop being "negative" and "political" and my personal favourite: "Get a life!"

There were two others who came to our defence and in the end three of us were kicked off the site. While these bullies' elaborations of Christmas plans and drunkenness were deemed acceptable, the request for wheelchair access was not and was construed as "political." In short, these women were threatened because the subject with whom they interact does not replicate the ideas and behaviour which they perceive as normative.

A few weeks before our expulsion, Liz posted this comment an a separate Southbank surfing thread: "Southbank smurfing." At the time this comment seemed inapposite, but after further reflection I realize this was the most fitting of all comments to describe this very homogenizing space given that Smurfs are physically all the same. Similarly the bullies of Southbank Surfing do not accept difference or individuality as they reinforce through brute homophobic vituperation their roles as abusers onto the subjects who merely communicated their difference.

 
 
 
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05:50 PM on 04/13/2012
Great piece and so salient for us lesbians in London who are tired of these issues. I know the Southbank Surfing scene quite well and read the posts. It is an embarrassment that these women behaved in such a manner. Like BlackRabbit says below, it is so easy to see homophobia when it is at the hands of heterosexuals, not so easy when some very bitter lesbians are serving up their venom. I have distanced myself from the scene over the past couple years. There is far too much anger in that community and little desire to discuss these problems openly. Thanks to this author for bravely addressing a problem that is long overdue public exposure!
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12:57 PM on 04/08/2012
We tend to be forgiving of attacks made by "our" side and are hyper-sensitive to attacks made by "their" side, giving the impression that "they" are far more cruel than "we". It's only when one attempts some mild apostasy does one realize the truth of it.
10:51 AM on 04/08/2012
This happened in 2007? Time to get over it....they didn't want you and you can always start your own discussion group online
03:27 AM on 04/08/2012
I hope your films are meatier than this. Just because it's about you doesn't make it interesting. Did it ever occur to you, dear author, to compare and contrast this experience with - oh, I don't know - anything at all outside your open but seemingly closed little world?

I don't claim to be a journalist nor a columnist - neither should you.
10:45 PM on 04/07/2012
Thats a well written piece. The internet is great for bullies because they can bully and think they are in control with no risk of getting punched in the nose. Long before there were computers, Robert Louis Stevenson said that we are all travellers on the road of life and the best thing we can hope to meet on our journey is an honest friend. Over time I've met a a few honest friends, but I think it's unlikely I'll ever do so on the internet.
07:34 PM on 04/07/2012
What we see online is the ugly side of humanity as protected by anonymity. It knows no gender, age, race or orientation. I think this is the biggest lesson of the internet. At our basest levels, we all have an ugly side that leads us to act in a manner that crosses all divisive definitions. Driven by fear, insecurity, unfocused ambition or a delusional sense of what we are or deserve, we all have the capacity to act inapropriately. It's how we control this side of ourselves that truly defines who and what we are, as individuals, and a culture.
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Ian Llangan
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02:14 PM on 04/07/2012
I am genuinely puzzled. If the writer of this piece did not like the tone, content, style or moderation practices of the group she joined, rather than whine/whinge to all and sundry at large, why did she not simply start her own, more inclusive, more civil group? Is the creation and sculpting of one's own corner of cyberspace not, after all, the great beauty of the Internet?
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arkymorgan
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02:59 PM on 04/07/2012
Never had a site destroyed by trolls, have you?

Cyber-vandalism isn't unique to gay sites, though. It's endemic, and it is at least partially the result of the oppressed trying to rewrite their lives so that they get to be the oppressors.

This happens all the time: someone starts a site and it gets hijacked by bozos. A lot of the time, the site owners are so married to the concept of having a popular site, they cannot bear to let it go, whilst the other, non-bozo participants try in vain to rescue a site they liked from the destruction. Eventually, the site is abandoned to the bozos, and, sooner or later, the bozos go off in search of new sites to vandalize.
07:29 PM on 04/07/2012
So very true.
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11:47 AM on 04/07/2012
It's hardly ironic that a group of lesbians is behaving the same as any other group of humans, in person or on the web, like say Star Wars fanboys, or zoo supporters, or pescetarians. There are always hierarchies. There are always factions, factions within factions, and - here I don't necessarily mean democratically dominant - there are always dominant factions (for which read 'control freaks.')

Where adults are concerned, screw 'em if they don't play well with others.
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11:44 AM on 04/07/2012
Ms Vigo: I commented on your story but see the HP moderator felt it was not appropriate. I guess writing in support of you by saying a group was acting inappropriately is in itself inappropriate. I will try again :) ..It seems all too common that an oppressed group works against oppression, then when certain rights are gained, a core group emerges. They take it upon themselves to decide who has the 'right' to be part of that group. Oppressed becoming the oppressor. You obviously are not the right k.ind. O.f .les.bi.an. In their books. All the best to you.
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11:44 AM on 04/07/2012
Talking about religion and politics with any group of people will always lead to discord. If you were looking to make new acquaintences, why choose to bring up a topic of religion, especially with a group of people who generally tend to distance themselves from those organizations because of experiencing rejection, hatred and homophobia? I don't want to assume, but it looks as though you were wanting to drum up a bit of controversy. You obviously succeeded in ruffling a few feathers.

It'd be interesting to read your exact posts which were deleted.
TheRenaissanceMan
A starry-eyed idealist with too much time
11:34 AM on 04/07/2012
There are idiots from all walks of life. Don't get discouraged. Try joining a political group, you will doubtlessly get a much more fulfilling experience.
11:00 AM on 04/07/2012
Same thing happened to me on the Wipe Out Homophobia on Facebook group.
I had a differing opinion than those of the admins, and in response they flooded me with private mails telling me what a horrible person I was to challenge them and promptly removed my ability to even defend myself on the group page by removing my rights to posting.
I couldn't understand how such blatant hypocrisy could exist in a group that was supposedly about promoting the right to be different.
Left me with a real bad taste in my mouth, and I'm pretty darn sure that my mentioning this group by name will lead to some sort of response eventually by some of their members.
That being said, I personally still try to promote the right to be different both within my local community and the gay community through various events and outreach programs.
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Lou on Vancouver Island
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10:29 AM on 04/07/2012
Sorry about your experience. There are Yahoos (Gulliver version) in every group, including this one. No one has to stay at such an ugly party. I doubt that they are 66 yr old retired grammar teachers like me.

After a certain age, you are free to wear what you want and avoid boring/destructive people.
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07:36 AM on 04/07/2012
Dare I say that many, note I did not say most, who express themselves through online media do not have a life?
02:27 PM on 04/07/2012
That was probably once true, but online media is easily an accessory to a 'life'. These people are like this online and off.
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arkymorgan
Nobody knows the trouble I've been...
03:04 PM on 04/07/2012
Truth!

Almost every organization I've ever been part of has had this sort of nonsense go on. Volunteer groups seem to be the worst, too.

Online boorishness escalates to overtly nasty a little quicker, that's all.
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03:11 PM on 04/07/2012
That is why I said many rather than most. I believe online communication is an essential part of open dialogue. It can add to life. But some use it as a whipping post for their miserable lives.

And for that I am sad.
05:14 AM on 04/07/2012
The New Vulgarity adores anti-intellectualism and faux transgression, so the way you were nastily treated is par for the present course. Self-harm is worshiped, self-mutilation a la mode and sado-masochistic, self-destructive and apocalyptic themes run through the culture.

Not really an ambience which encourages genuineness, decency, integrity or kindness. These require self-regard, self-esteem. Now the people want the package of behaviors associated with low self-esteem - rudeness, impatience, fakery, inability to be intimate, and a lack of manners arising from fear of politeness as politeness is a sign of being one of THEM - the conformists whom we must shock! (Not existing they are never shocked). Everyone wants to be iconic, edgy and extreme.

Now think back. Any aspect of that emerging culture of destructive nonsense you have advocated? Praised? Admired or encouraged aspects of it? We all have.

But it is not so nice when it bites back.