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Catholic Schools Are Not Free to Bully Gays

Posted: 06/08/2012 4:02 pm

The Ontario Legislature recently passed its controversial anti-bullying law. The law, among many other things, forces Ontario's Catholic schools to allow Gay Straight Alliances (GSAs) and allow them to be called GSAs. Response from religious conservatives was swift, they claimed that the bill infringes on religious freedom and the rights of parents to raise their children.

Although I am agnostic, I have contemplated during discussions over this bill where the rights of a child start and the rights of a parent end. What happens when religious freedom is pitted against other fundamental human rights? The answer, once I found it, was really quite simple. If we were discussing any religion other than Christianity, the answer for most, including anti-gay Catholics, would be easy.

There are religions and religious sects in the world that do not believe that girls should be educated. There are groups that still view women as, essentially, property, and Ontario parents would never stand for those views being upheld in schools or by the legislature.

There are groups that believe that certain ethnic or religious groups are inferior and groups that believe in the caste system, that the social class of their parents should limit individuals. In fact, at various points in history, Christianity has firmly endorsed all of these beliefs.

In all cases, Christianity has been forced to change these views due to societal pressure, not by internal debate. It goes without saying that none of these beliefs, regardless of any questions of religious freedom or parental rights, would be acceptable in Ontario in 2012. This is especially true of these beliefs being espoused in a publicly-funded school system.

The reality is that Catholic schools created an unsafe and unwelcoming environment for gay students. While there is evidence to support this the only evidence that is really needed is that gay students, or a sufficient number of them, did not feel safe or welcome.

While some wanted the Ontario government to allow the Catholic school boards to try again to find a way to make schools safer within the confines of Catholic teaching, the reality is the Catholic Church does not have a strong track record when it comes to tolerance and human rights.

While the church would like us to believe that witch hunts, inquisitions and neutrality on the Holocaust are part of ancient history and a different church, actual evidence offers little hope. Corporal punishment is synonymous with most people's impressions of Catholic schools. Child abuse by clergy, and the subsequent cover-ups of that abuse continue to make headlines and, while some have said that Bill 13 is the equivalent of residential schools, those schools were run by Catholics and other Christian churches.

Currently the Catholic church and other religious conservative groups continue to lobby worldwide against gay rights. Given the track record and their views on homosexuality, it should come as no surprise that elected representatives felt the need to intervene and be very specific about what was required.

So, is the Ontario government interfering with religious freedom and the rights of parents? It could certainly be framed that way, but the teaching of hate, bigotry and intolerance is irresponsible to the point of being abusive. It is damaging to children who will live as adults in a tolerant, diverse, multicultural society.

Teaching gay children that they are somehow inferior or immoral because of the way they were born, in the name of religion or otherwise, is also abusive. Regardless of your religious or cultural beliefs, if you are raising your children on hate, bigotry and intolerance, in my opinion the government can and should intervene.

While they may not be able to vote yet, children too have rights. In cases where the religious beliefs of a parent come into conflict with a child's basic rights to safety, a quality education, freedom from prejudice and free association with their peers, the rights of the child should win out every time.

Every person in Ontario is entitled to believe anything they choose to believe. They do not, however, have the right to use those beliefs to cause harm to or interfere with the basic, guaranteed human rights of others who do not share the same beliefs.

 

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10:18 AM on 06/11/2012
I'm a little concerned that the anti-bullying campaigns are being sidetracked by this gay-straight alliance issue. Most bullying is not about gay-straight, it's about bullies torturing anyone perceived as 'being different', in any way. From being gay, or wearing the wrong clothes, or having bad teeth or just pissing off the wrong person, bullying can be for any, or no, reason.

Gay-straight alliances should certainly be allowed, in schools and outside. However, they should either be separate from the anti-bullying groups or some kind of 'sub-committee' of them, in order to ensure that the big picture is not forgotten.
12:32 AM on 06/11/2012
To discriminate against people for something they can't help is nobody's right. It is not a matter of differences of opinion at that point.
bobcaygeon
That night in Toronto.....
07:20 PM on 06/10/2012
But my religion of love must be allowed to hate!
10:52 PM on 06/09/2012
catholic schools don't bully gays. all students are treated equally by the catholic schools just like church teaches all believers to be treated equally. there are clubs of all sorts that one can join in a catholic school system. if one feels bullied there are ways to deal with it - government is micromanaging this issue.
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09:33 AM on 06/11/2012
Since it is a GOVERNMENT run and PAID for institution, as opposed to churches, the Catholic School Board is necessarily micromanaged by the government.
08:53 PM on 06/11/2012
government is overstepping its mandage as it's dabbling in religion and by definition there is separation of church and state. lately it only seem to work in one direction only - government imposing its will on the churches backed up by all sorts of deviant agenda. as far as funding go, don't forget that catholic taxpayers pay for the schools via government so it should be taken into account.
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10:44 PM on 06/09/2012
The Catholic Church does not own nor fund the Separate School system. The taxpayers do.
Case closed.
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Maria Korovessis Sewell
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09:08 PM on 06/09/2012
Not only do children have rights, but parents have responsibilities, religious education being one of them. Not the job of a school board that is funded mostly out of public general revenue (90%).
08:58 PM on 06/09/2012
While I do agree that religious schools should be privately funded, there should a fine line between government educating & interfering with parental responsibility. Freedom should not only be given to the people with the "right" opinion but to the ones the "wrong" opinion, as well.
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09:35 AM on 06/11/2012
I disagree, do we really want a "white pride" club in our schools because they should be allowed to express their wrong opinion?
No, they should not.
You have no argument, its just the same tired "freedom to speak is freedom to offend" argument which has consistantly been proven to not be the case according to our constitution and supreme court.
07:38 PM on 06/11/2012
Tsvi1,

If you're talking about public schools, most likely "white pride" clubs are less likely to happen especially under the new anti-bullying law. But for a private funded schools, I wouldn't want a "white pride" club there either so I protests and maybe I get the media behind. Maybe you get enough public scrutiny to stop the club. Maybe not. Ultimately, it's the decision of the private funded school not the government. And if I don't agree with the decision, I'll take my money somewhere else.
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djelimon17
what's this thing for?
07:45 PM on 06/09/2012
I agree that lgbt kids need protection and all schools must comply with this.

However I also think that whether someone's sexual orientation is innate or not really has no bearing on the issue. By which I mean it's wrong to discriminate or persecute others who are different whether or not that difference is a choice, as long as no one is harmed by that choice. It shows how entrenched bullying and fascism (which is bullying writ large) is in our society, that rather than simply seeing it as wrong, we must define when it is wrong, which implies a time when it is right.
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07:25 PM on 06/09/2012
I'm 25% gay, my Grandfather was 100% gay, and I find what these religious schools are doing to be offensive. Gays shouldn't be discriminated by any group, even in our schools. Schools are institutions for learning, not learning bigotry.
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Gnomish
ego doctus ignarus
02:16 PM on 06/09/2012
Religion should be a wholly personal thing. I don't care what you believe leave me that same freedom.

For your Gods sake keep it to yourself or I'll bore you to tears with Gaia.
09:48 AM on 06/09/2012
(Continued from below)demanding tolerance is already on the books and your argument about causing undue harm is moot. This is saying we want you to be more than tolerant, we want you to run gay programs rather than silently disagree simply not discriminate. That is being told to act against your beliefs when it doesn't interfere with the human rights of others and that sir is overstepping. Notice the gay portion of the anti-bullying program was not opposed just the GSA's in fact some catholic school districts already had LGBT friendly anti-bullying programs. Also I would like you to substantiate your claim of hostile environments in catholic school in Canada , I would challenge you to show proof of the environment being far more unwelcoming than their public school counterparts.
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10:51 AM on 06/09/2012
continued....

The fact is that lgbt students are at greater risk of bullying than any other group of students, especially in the catholic school system, where bullying of lgbt students is tacitly approved. This means that there is a special need for focus on lgbt bullying. If bullying of students from another group was a particular problem, then there would be groups and programs specifically directed at dealing with those issues. My catholic high school in toronto had a student group for black students of caribbean descent because there were issues of discrimination against that community in the school. This is no different.
08:44 PM on 06/09/2012
Actually, that's not correct. The number one reason for bullying is actuallly physical appearance which could include weight, colour of skin, clothes, and even height.
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see-ellen2001
09:04 PM on 06/10/2012
Marcus: apparently the stats are higher for bullying based on physical appearance.
12:12 PM on 06/10/2012
thank you for highlighting important points which seem to be missed: the gay portion of the Bill was not opposed and a specific group is being forced to act against its beliefs even when they are not denying human rights
08:28 PM on 06/10/2012
We're talking about kids here and homophobia is not a major part of the bible.
Your opnion is a homophobic one and you abuse religion to justify it.
Tax payers aren't going to pay for that
08:21 AM on 06/09/2012
Just cut off the public funding to these school already. Why is the general public paying for a religious education for anyone? I went to catholic school. It was a joke.
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YrthWyndAndFyre
03:11 PM on 06/09/2012
Boom! Nail on the head. No other denominational school receives government funding, so if the Catholic Schools want the government out of their program, they are free to stop accepting the funding. While they're accepting Public funding, that makes them Public Schools, and they have to follow the same rules as all the other Public Schools. If I had my way, the Catholic schools would be forbidden to teach Catholicism - because none of the other Public Schools are allowed to. You can't ride the gravy-train unless you're willing to pay full fare.
12:02 PM on 06/10/2012
Check out the BNA Act ... the agreement which brought this country into existence. Catholic schools were GUARANTEED without end.
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arkymorgan
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03:22 PM on 06/10/2012
Having repatriated the BNA, we are, of course, free to amend that.

And personally, I think we could limit the damage that any religion could do in secular realms by ending all religous tax exemptions. Let's be honest: a large percentage of religions only exist because of those exemptions.
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Ian Llangan
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02:24 AM on 06/09/2012
All religious instruction (other than perhaps from an anthropological viewpoint, in public schools, as long as it includes a section on atheism) should be illegal for anyone under 18 years of age. If they decide as adults that they wish to be religious, let it be an adult journey of discovery.
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06:20 PM on 06/09/2012
I think it is a good idea to present religion from an anthropological, cultural and historical perspective. It is important that the history of how religion has shaped society, both in negative and positive aspects, as well as how it has shaped history, the arts and human culture. It would provide a springboard for discussion about peacemaking and inclusion of marginalised people. I don't think one can expunge religion from society, nor do I think it wise to. There is an appetite for religious learning and theological nerds can take delight in what is provided in universities and in religious institutions.
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09:37 AM on 06/11/2012
Which is precisely what he said.
Its nice when both the comment and the reply say the same exact thing.
And how has religion shaped society in a positive way? I have never heard a legitimate argument for that.
09:43 AM on 06/11/2012
Agreed. If religion still has a place in the education system, I think that all schools should teach the basics of Christianity, Judaism and Islam. Religion has a huge role in history, so kids would be learning these religions from an objective standpoint. They could make up their minds about their own beliefs when they're older. If parents want to pursue one of those main religions further in their private homes, that option would always be open.
02:12 AM on 06/09/2012
A load of rubbish full of unsubstantiated claims.
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Fern Dawg
07:17 AM on 06/09/2012
Typical response. The unsubstantiated claims???
Where have you been for the last 20 years!
Grow up.
12:17 PM on 06/10/2012
What has happened in Catholic schools in the last 20 years that is so offensive?
There were issues of abuse 50+ years ago, but since licensed teachers were required, the issues of abuse subsided.
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arachne646
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01:54 AM on 06/09/2012
I don't see the conflict between GSA's and the Catholic Schools. Aren't all the students supposed to be working at the goal of chastity in their thoughts and actions, whatever their orientation? Perhaps the problem is that students are thought to be talking about nothing but sex in these meetings, "perverted" sex at that? Nothing could be further from the truth.
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Marcus047
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10:56 AM on 06/09/2012
but unfortunately, the catholic school boards and archdiocese would like to pretend that there are no LGBT students at their schools. You can see it in the arch-bishops statement on this issue from a week or two ago, when he stated that: "These are externally developed groups that do not necessarily reflect the unique values of our students."

They think this is all external and that there are no lgbt students at their schools who need and want this support system.