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We Don't Need Rona Ambrose to Represent Women

Posted: 09/28/2012 4:39 pm

Suppose a private member's bill calling for the nationalization of Canadian banks became the subject of a free vote in the House of Commons. And suppose then the minister of finance voted in favour of it? Might there be some blowback from the big banks? Think a ferocious, career-ending whirlwind directed at the minister for supporting it. The damage it would cause to the economy makes such a move unthinkable, of course.

But that, in many respects, is what happened this week in the House of Commons when the minister responsible for the status of women, Rona Ambrose, voted in favour of a motion to have a parliamentary committee revisit the question of when life begins. Many saw the vote as the opening salvo in an effort to unwind the long-established principle of a woman's right to choose, and a terrible betrayal by Ambrose, who should now be called the minister in charge of turning back the clock.

None of this was terribly surprising, since women seem to have been coasting on autopilot when it comes to protecting the rights we have gained, much less advancing the cause of equality and fairness going forward.

The campaign to reverse the right to choose is a cornerstone of the Republican party election platform in the United States. GOP vice presidential hopeful Paul Ryan is on record as opposing abortion even in cases of rape and incest. Republicans clearly did not see this as a negative in the current election. And while Senate Republican contender Todd Akin initially sparked a firestorm of controversy in his own party with his bizarre comment about something he called "legitimate rape," now that polls are showing he still has a shot at victory in November, those same voices of indignation have become more muted.

But nowhere has the effort to roll back time been more shocking than in Canada, where a majority of the governing Conservative party's MPs appear to think it is now appropriate to place parliament and all the power of the state between a women and her doctor. They claim they wanted a committee to look at when life begins. That might be tad above their pay grades, since so many politicians seem to have a congenital problem recognizing the truth when they see it.

But the chipping away of the public consensus between women and society extends far beyond the medical clinic. The workplace still sees its share of mind-boggling abuses. A recent focus group survey of 426 female RCMP officers showed that most are afraid to report incidents of sexual harassment and bullying on the job because they don't have faith that their complaints will be taken seriously. Typical of what so many have experienced with sexual harassment, these women believe it will be they -- not the subjects of their complaints -- who will ultimately be punished. They are not alone. Around the world, sexual harassment remains an epidemic in the workplace, leaving many women scarred and victimized not just by the event itself but by its long-term aftermath.

I talk regularly with women who have experienced sexual harassment. In one respect, Ambrose's apparent abandonment of women is not surprising. Many women report that the first to desert them after they file a harassment claim are their female colleagues and friends who don't want to be tainted, so the feeling goes. But what is truly staggering is the almost universal feeling that these women suffered more by reporting sexual harassment, and the retaliation that followed them even as they attempted to rebuild their careers, than from the actual incident itself. Many say they would never have reported these incidents if they could have known the outcome beforehand. Governments and public institutions are often the biggest offenders.

Recently, I was astonished to discover that the Ontario government's workplace discrimination and harassment prevention (WDHP) policy does not apply to women outside the public service who are applying for a job there. It only protects current employees, thereby creating a situation where two women applying for the same position in the Ontario government can be treated entirely differently. One is protected by the anti-harassment policy; the other is not. So much for fairness on the part of the policy-makers who set the rules for the rest of the province's workplace.

When I brought this glaring dichotomy to the attention of senior government officials, including Ontario's minister of finance, the response was a thundering silence. Not even the Ontario Women's Directorate, which is funded by taxpayer dollars to advance the cause of women in the workplace, could summon up its voice. And, just to show the world that it really is stuck somewhere back in the Mad Men era, the Ontario government still allows its hiring panels to be composed entirely of men. Can the return of pipes and cigars in the interview room be that far behind?

It has long been accepted that when it comes to the health and careers of women, governments will stay out of the doctor's office and keep harassment out of the workplace. But as recent events have shown at every level in the public sector and in the highest echelons of political decision-making, it is now government itself that can be the greatest threat to those protections.

 
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12:29 PM on 10/03/2012
Focus Finley, focus. You are venting, not thinking clearly. You are forgetting about Motion 408, which opposes feticide. If you agree with the abortion laws in Canada as they stand, then you are pro-feticide. Is that a stand you want to make as a feminist? But now, since motion 312 was shot down, motion 408 is going to have a tough go of it. Which means that discrimination against females by sex-selective abortions are going to continue. Now what?
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Larry Motuz
More prayers, fewer preyers.
10:25 PM on 10/03/2012
Back from holidaying today. Will be back in touch with you, day or two, okay? Must admit, you forced me to take a second look...re: abortion regs. Canada.

I've so often been dealing with U.S. folks who don't know the framework that I forget when back in Canada that the framework is more conceptual(legal) than legislative(legal). But, you are worth getting back to...in a day or so.

By the way, nice to meet you, even if we disagree on this highly important matter.

See you in a day or so.

Larry
09:53 AM on 10/05/2012
You bet, and you are right that this is very important. Even the Supreme Court agrees with that, if you have a chance you should read this article:

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/10/02/supreme-court-set-to-tread-where-members-of-parliament-fear-to-go-the-minefield-of-deciding-when-life-begins/

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colpy
12:24 PM on 10/01/2012
OK....Ms Finlay needs to focus.

What the heck does the GOP VP candidate have to do with Rona Ambrose????

Or Ontario workplace equity law??? Last I looked, Ontario was run by Liberals, none too friendly with the feds.

And the ultimate insult.....pretending there either is abortion, or not, that no limitations can be placed, and that all women worthy of the name have supped deeply of the kool-aid, and agree with Ms. Finlay.

According to a recent Ipsos-Reid poll, 62% of women would support a law limiting late-term abortions.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/07/04/new-poll-shows-most-canadians-support-abortion-with-some-restrictions/

Ambrose represents the majority of women on this issue.

Additionally, more women want an abortion law than do men....only 57% of men wanted a new law.

Which kinda leaves Ms. Finlay high and dry.
02:00 PM on 09/30/2012
This was more about Harper's "guvmint" speaking to its base. Harper couldn't go ask his public insistence he wouldn't re-open the abortion issue - but he still needed his base to know where he is really at. What better way of letting them know, then for the so-called Minister responsible for the status of women to vote for this private members bill. As we've heard many times before, Harper is a control freak and nothing gets done without his approval/knowledge (with Karl Rove-type figures behind him pulling strings). So you can be sure it was discussed which cabinet members would vote, so the base wouldn't feel completely let down.
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colpy
12:28 PM on 10/01/2012
Spare me conspiracy theories. "Karl Rove type figures"??? Really?

Stuff like that completely discredits everything else you try to say.

BTW, Harper did NOT influence this vote in any way, except negatively. He did not want it brought forward, he did not want his MPs voting for it, he would not touch the issue with a 20 foot pole, given the choice.......his constituency be damned.

So, as I said, spare me the conspiracy theories......they are simply without merit.
heterodoxlibertarian
small government liberal
12:12 PM on 09/30/2012
I don't support criminalizing abortion by any means but this sort of rhetoric has to stop. Anytime, a women disagrees with the hard left feminist line they are branded as not "representing women" as if women were monolithic and shared the exact same values and policy preferences as leftist feminists. There are many women who don't, for example, think the governmnet should be in the daycare business and whenever they express this view they are branded as being inauthentically female in same sense or "privileged" by people like the writer of this piece. It's really a form of intimidation.
07:46 PM on 09/29/2012
This misbegotten proposal has already started the abortion debate, which is exactly what Harper wanted. It would never have been tabled without his consent and encouragement and based on religious beliefs. I urge men and women who are against abortion to talk to the older generation of women about what happened to many pregnant teenagers when abortions were illegal. They died or became sterile from botched wire coat hanger abortions. Do you really want to be responsible for that? It is human nature - a strong basic drive - to have sex and girls get pregnant from it.
12:25 AM on 09/30/2012
Ah yes, there are only two possible outcomes: Option 1- back alley abortions and Option 2 - abortion on demand, no questions asked (e.g. abortion at eight and a half months). But whatever we do, we shouldn't discuss the matter because if we do, those who want to return to the days of Option 1 will automatically prevail. I believe I'm in the majority: pro-choice but uncomfortable with the "anything goes" law that is on the books currently.
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okgranny
Egalitarian by birth
04:19 PM on 09/29/2012
The only debate about abortion is between a woman and her physician, not a pack of crackpot, ethically challenged politicians. How dare they!!!
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colpy
12:30 PM on 10/01/2012
You are in the minority of women.

You need to accept that.

And deal with it.
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okgranny
Egalitarian by birth
02:12 PM on 10/01/2012
Our Medical Profession manages abortion restrictions just fine and unlike our politicians, they ARE ethical.
01:22 PM on 09/29/2012
Since when does protecting life equal hurting women?! Bravo Ms. Ambrose for having the courage to do the right thing even when it's not the popular thing!
11:37 AM on 09/29/2012
Since when does protecting life hurt women?! So encouraging to see people brave enough to do the right thing even when it's not the popular thing.
04:05 AM on 09/29/2012
Why does abortion have to be an all or nothing, black and white, full pro-choice or full pro-life debate? Is there no room for a shade of grey in this debate?

Perhaps we Canadians should employ the wisdom of King Solomon and "cut the baby in half". Er... that was a poor choice of words, I suppose.
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colpy
12:30 PM on 10/01/2012
Exactly!!!
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Gnomish
ego doctus ignarus
10:11 PM on 09/28/2012
I hereby bequeath Rona Ambros the title of Honorary man for the remainder of her time in office.
Nothing for us to be proud of but we'll take one for the team.
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colpy
12:33 PM on 10/01/2012
Actually, she has represented the view of 62% of women in her stand. That is the number a recent Ipsos-Reid Poll found would support a new law restricting late term abortions.

Surprisingly, only 57% of men supported a new law.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/07/04/new-poll-shows-most-canadians-support-abortion-with-some-restrictions/

Seems you are a little confused.
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colpy
12:36 PM on 10/01/2012
Now if only most women didn't AGREE with her, your little world would be perfect!!!

lol
09:14 PM on 09/28/2012
Connect the dots people: the sky is falling!
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Ike Awgu
08:58 PM on 09/28/2012
Sad that so many pundits seem eager to tell Rona Ambrose precisely what opinions that she - as a woman - is allowed to have.
03:27 AM on 09/29/2012
Excellent point. Comment of the week!
11:35 AM on 09/29/2012
Yes!
05:57 PM on 09/28/2012
I agree with Amborse and she represents my views. Not all women agree with abortion. I feel it is wrong and killing an innocent baby should be illegal. Women need to be responsible for their actions and if you become pregant when you don't want to that doesn't give you the right to murder an unborn child. Some women use abortion as birth control.
11:22 AM on 09/29/2012
You right-to-force-women-to-have-children crowd always distort the reality of abortion into some twisted fantastical macabre world where 'babies' are being brutally murdered. Most of you even apply the term 'human life' to a zygote. Some have gone as far as to say that a male's sperm or a female's egg are , by themselves, human life (most notable being the Roman catholic Church).

Take your right-to-force-women-to-have-children's view and flock off with the birds.
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colpy
12:13 PM on 10/01/2012
Alex??

Are you not a man trying to tell women how they should think??

For shame..... :)
11:35 AM on 09/29/2012
Agreed.
03:36 PM on 09/29/2012
Agreed to "are you kidding"!
05:44 PM on 09/28/2012
As a woman, I did not feel "betrayed" by her vote. I felt she voted for me. Proud that she took that stand.
11:36 AM on 09/29/2012
Well said.