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An NDP-Liberal Merger Isn't on

Posted: 09/02/11 01:35 PM ET

There has been much media speculation this past week about potential merger talks between the Liberals and the NDP, but it is simply too early for them. Neither side is ready for a merger.

Both parties have not yet reached the point that the Canadian Alliance and Progressive Conservatives were at in 2003. We considered a merger after fighting an all out war with each other for over a decade. Only then did it slowly sink in that we were wasting time, resources and energy fighting each other, rather than the common enemy -- the Chretien government.

Ignatieff's Facebook comment "Sitting together in the same hall, isn't it obvious how much we have in common" is pretty accurate, but it won't win him any supporters for potential talk of a merger between the two rival parties. Neither will it win Justin Trudeau, Denis Coderre and Pat Martin any friends, in fact they might lose a few as hardcore partisans dig in their heals to oppose any discussions with "the enemy." A potential PC Party and Canadian Alliance merger had one additional point in its favour, while we fought each other at the federal level, members of the Canadian Alliance and PC Party often joined forces to assist local provincial conservative candidates in Ontario and elsewhere. The Liberals and NDP don't have that opportunity as they oppose each other at the provincial level as well.

At this point in time, any talk of a potential merger or coalition will be quickly squelched by party officials, Liberal leader Bob Rae and potential NDP leadership candidates. Any NDP leadership candidate proposing a merger will find out how quickly they lose support and votes. At the same time the Liberals cannot openly talk about a merger with the NDP as this would be an admission that they can never regain power on their own. At this point in time, I doubt many would ever want to admit that publicly.

There have been some suggestions that the Liberals and NDP could cooperate in Question Period and this is a valid point. A united strategy could offer them the opportunity to work together, coordinate strategy and better hold the government to account.

Back in 2000, this is exactly what the then Reform Party and PC Party did during the Transitional Job Fund scandal. Some may recall the "Billion Dollar Boondoggle" which was a phrase coined by yours truly and first used by PC Party MP Jean Dube in a question to Jane Stewart the HRSDC minister. At that time the two parties cooperated for a short time on Question Period preparation, sharing research, tips and even going so far as to decide who would ask what question and when. It was a short-lived but excellent example of cooperation that merged their superior research skills and budget with our experience from being in government and our knowledge of how minister's offices functioned and the department worked.

I might add that the NDP and Bloc also met with us for a short time, before going their own way on the issue. This was one of the few times that I experienced full cooperation between all four opposition parties on an issue.

The Liberals and the NDP both need more time out of government before there is any chance of merger talks moving forward. Right now neither of them is frustrated enough with their inability to form a government and they need a few more disappointing elections under their belt before they can consider the merger option. In the meantime, diehard partisans will be very public about the folly of a merger of the two parties and proponents will be scorned. While the two parties spend years fighting each other as well as the Conservatives, Harper will enjoy a divided opposition and have time on his side to reinforce the Conservative brand as he moves forward with his agenda.

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There has been much media speculation this past week about potential merger talks between the Liberals and the NDP, but it is simply too early for them. Neither side is ready for a merger. Both parti...
There has been much media speculation this past week about potential merger talks between the Liberals and the NDP, but it is simply too early for them. Neither side is ready for a merger. Both parti...
 
 
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Mike Beckett
LibDem Cllr & Director of Caring for Business Ltd
08:18 AM on 09/03/2011
Cooperation is sensible and does not mean merger.
08:26 PM on 09/02/2011
well, that article is the best argument I've seen in a while for them merging quickly, if conservatives are hoping for a decade of centre-left infighting. This would be even more disturbing than it was for the conservative side since the majority of this country actually votes for centre left parties. This was not the case for the Reform/Alliance/PC mess, they were splitting a minority of the votes anyways. But the combined Liberal+NDP+former Bloc votes constitutes and actual majority of public support. Surely, the importance of working out a solution is even more urgent than it was for conservatives. I'm not saying a merger is the answer, perhaps an entirely new party or perhaps one of the parties has to give up. These are all unpalatable solutions. But 10 years of conservative governments representing just 40% of the country would be much worse when the other 60% could probably stomach any of the merged solutions.
02:15 PM on 09/02/2011
Mr. Beardsley wrote: "The Liberals and the NDP both need more time out of government before there is any chance of merger talks moving forward."

Geeze. As things stand now, the Conservatives have 4 more years guaranteed and they have alrady been around a long time. This only happened because of the ill-advised no confidence vote the Liberals led and the resulting election in which 60% of the voting Canadians sided with one or the other of the progressive parties, only to hand the Conservatives a majority government.


How much more time out of government do the NDP and the Liberals need to learn that they are hurting their own constituency by fighting rather than merging?
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ProgressiveCDN
A Progressive Moderate
03:48 PM on 09/02/2011
I agree!
This guy is a Conservative only making a point from his own ideology.
The progressives in this country have split the vote many times over the last 4 elections and it worked in Harper's favour everytime... What more evidence do we need??
PROGRESSIVES UNITE!!! This is no longer up for debate! Screw the partisans! Please show me what they've done?!? Lost four consecutive elections, finally resulting in a majority Neo-Con rule... it's a shame... Canada's image is being tarnished and it's all because progressives are too scared to go against the party line.

Read More Here: http://liberallibra.wordpress.com/2011/08/03/liberals-the-ndp/
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patrickwwalker
04:50 PM on 09/02/2011
The beauty of the last election means that the Conservatives OWN the flagging Canadian economy and cannot hide behind the excuse of minority government.
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02:06 PM on 09/02/2011
"While the two parties spend years fighting each other as well as the Conservatives, Harper will enjoy a divided opposition and have time on his side to reinforce the Conservative brand as he moves forward with his agenda."

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This last sentence alone explains why the Liberals and NDP at least need to put together an electoral pact or coalition. Australia offers a model on the center-right of politics. The Liberal and National Parties form a coalition, but remain separate identities.

The partisans of both parties might want to think about what Canada would look like in 2027, after 16 years of Conservative majority government because neither was willing to even try working together.
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02:02 PM on 09/02/2011
Sadly, I agree. Both parties are convinced they can still win government on their own and both parties have tribalists who would resent even working with the other.

It will take a few more majority Conservative governments elected with 40% of the vote before progressives in both parties wake up and say, "gee, I guess we need to unite after all." Goodness knows what Canada will look like after 16 years of Conservative majority government.

Because of their different histories and human pride, merger between the Liberals and NDP probably isn't likely in the short term. However, merger is not the only option.

Grass roots progressives in both parties might want to consider if at least a temporary alliance or coalition could be formed to oust the Conservatives in 2015.

The pact could include bringing in runoff elections (either two-round voting as in France or ranked-choice voting as in Australia/Ireland) and let the voters sort it out.
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patrickwwalker
04:53 PM on 09/02/2011
The Liberals and Conservatives should merge considering how likeminded they are on issues, particularly economics. Note that Liberals never poo-poo the idea of tax cuts itself, but the "timing" of them. They both have long records of subordinating national interests for "internationalism" (aka doing what the Yanks order us to). I would not vote for a merged NDP-Liberal party because we know who would end up in executive control. The NDP aspect of the party would be solely there to march people into the voting booth while policy continues to be dictated by the likes of the Conference Board of Canada and foreign economic agents working on Bay Street.