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80s Music Fandom: Confessions of an Old New Romantic

Posted: 06/24/11 09:04 AM ET

A friend of mine recently suggested that my taste in music is getting worse as I get older. I beg to differ, but will admit to being (somewhat) stuck in the '80s, musically, at least.

Perhaps it's because of my UK heritage, but my list of favourite bands reads like a 'has been' of '80s British new wave: Culture Club, Spandau Ballet, China Crisis, ABC, Style Council, Scritti Politti, etc.

In fact, the majority of my top bands haven't had a hit this side of the Atlantic since the Reagan administration! As a result, a trip to my local record shop is often an exercise in futility and frustration, as illustrated by a recent sojourn:

Me: "Excuse me, do you have the new Scritti Politti album?"
Disinterested 18-year-old behind the counter: "Skittle Political?"
Me: (emphasizing each syllable phonetically): "No, Scrit-tee Po-lit-tee".
Counter dude: "Scripple Police?"
Me: "Never mind, I'll just look for it myself"

Over the years, my wife, Heather, has accompanied me to countless reunion and greatest hit(s) shows by many of the aforementioned artists ("Hey, I just read that (insert long-forgotten '80s band here) is reforming for the first time in 25 years -- wanna go?) and has, in fact, become a fan of many of the bands herself. I suppose a cynic would argue that it's a classic example of the Stockholm syndrome (in which the hostage begins to express empathy and have positive feelings towards their captors; sometimes to the point of defending them), but I like to think I've exposed her to some quality music over the years -- receding hairlines and expanding waistlines not withstanding (bands and punters alike!),

Proving that the apple doesn't fall from the proverbial tree, my daughter, Sadie, loves to dance to Culture Club, who are tops on my new wave hit parade (for the record, no pun intended, I can't stand Karma bloody Chameleon!). Thankfully, she tends to prefer some of their lesser known tracks and eschews the ballads in favour of the more up-tempo numbers (her current favourite is "The War Song"). The other day, after a particularly spirited Culture Club dance session, Sadie breathlessly announced that she wanted to be a "Boy George Dancer" when she grows up. I suppose there are wiser career choices, but hey, I'm not going to stifle the kid's dream! (okay, maybe it's more my dream, but I digress...).

Being a former music writer, I've often been able to use a connection or two to score backstage passes. In the case of Culture Club, there was something strangely surreal about having a beer with the same guys you grew up idolizing. Over the years, I've dragged poor Heather across god's green earth to witness various Culture Club reunion shows, from New York and Detroit to London and all points in between.

During one particular stretch about a decade ago -- during Culture Club's 20th anniversary tour -- I'm pretty sure George thought we were stalking him, especially when we also ended up sitting directly behind him at a performance of his hit musical, Taboo, in London's West End. I'm not sure if I imagined it, but there seemed to be a hint of uneasiness in his voice as he greeted us in the lobby of the theatre: "Oh... hello, again".

There was also the time I decided to "bootleg" a Culture Club gig and hid a small mini-cassette recorder in my front pocket. Upon returning to the hotel and listening to my attempt, I was dismayed to discover the recording was ruined by the incessant "woo hooing" of an over-enthusiastic (and quite annoying) Culture Club fan. Heather was in hysterics when we realized that the fan was yours truly (I'd like to point out, however, that is NOT me yelling "I love you George" during the intro to "Do You Really Want to Hurt Me"!)

Not surprisingly, my friends and family often ridicule me for being such a big '80s music fan, and I'm banned from bringing any Boy George or Culture Club CDs on road trips ("If you bring any Culture Club CDs into this car, I'm throwing them out the #%&@$#% window!" ). How I ever convinced three of my best mates to travel to New York City and pony up $150 a ticket to see Culture Club, Human League and Howard Jones during their Big Rewind Tour is beyond me. Although, after many beers later that evening, my friend Mark did confess that a particularly touching ballad "made his soul weep", so maybe they're closet Culture Club fans after all!

Admittedly, given George's recent fondness for kidnapping rent boys and illicit drugs, it's hard to even admit to being a Culture Club fan. But hey, 60 million albums and 100 million singles sold is nothing to sniff at! Look for me at the next Culture Club reunion tour, I'll be the sad bastard "woo hooing" in the front row!

 
 
 
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Jen Celli
Done sitting and watching quietly.
04:07 PM on 06/30/2011
We all have guilty 80s pleasures Marc. I happen to enjoy cleaning my house listening to Big Country or Billy Idol. Hands down though, I can't spend a truly 80s day without hearing Siouxsie and the Banshees' Peepshow. Just one of those things I guess.
01:22 PM on 06/29/2011
Thanks to everyone for taking the time to comment - and thanks for the kind words. Jeff, you can rest assured I like all types of music, and was simply having a bit of fun with my affection for '80s music. It was a glorious decade, both musically and to come of age in. Music's all about having a laugh, innit, so why take it so seriously? (most of the artists in the '80s obviously never did, lol..) Cheers, everyone!
04:40 PM on 07/14/2011
Lol I just came across this and had a bit of a chuckle. I still don't know any of these bands :P Hope all is well with you and everyone else at the office.
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09:50 PM on 06/28/2011
marc, my ''little'' sister Bethany would love you !! she LOVED scritti politti back in the day . . . . i liked them but not all that much.
07:09 PM on 06/27/2011
Depeche Mode...still filling stadiums and making great music. Why don't the brits recognize them as one of their own, I always find that odd.
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capt hastings
exercise the little grey cells
01:51 PM on 06/25/2011
Don't leave out the Big Hair Bands and harder rockers, some of which had different styles before the 80's and reinvented themselves again for the 90's: Kiss, Whitesnake, AC/DC, Poison, Quiet Riot, Motley Crue, Ratt, Van Halen, Guns n Roses, Night Ranger, Survivor, the list never ends!!! http://www.thehouseofhair.net/

(Culture Club's George has amazing vocal and music ability, but his creep factor is so off the charts I can't stand to think about him, let alone listen to him.)
04:13 PM on 06/25/2011
Motley Crew and poison are currently on tour together. They played in sf last week.
05:14 PM on 06/27/2011
What's creepy about George? He's a former drug addict like 90% of the rest of the people in the music business. Are the things he gets up to any worse than what the guys in Motley Crue or Van Halen do? None of them are people you should pattern your life after! I don't care about anyone's personal life. It would never make me not want to listen to their music. I love Courtney Love and Hole and she makes Boy George look like a choir boy. Who cares? It should be about the music.
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06:05 PM on 06/24/2011
i have been an 80s music girl for years now. i love Prince, Billy Idol, INXS, Adam Ant, and Duran Duran. i was brought up on all kinds of music, from classical to dixieland jazz to blues, so it's not like i have no other background. i just am happier listening to 80s. i do listen to more current stuff also.
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kathismom
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05:45 PM on 06/24/2011
Mark, it's fine to love your 80's music. Believe me, I can go down that lane with you (Martha & the Muffin's Echo Beach, Romeo Void, Style Council.. on my iphone now BUT dude, if your buddies start forbidding you bringing them with you, you play it too much and too often with them. Branch out - ! There are great bands now too... Generationalists, The Orion Experience, Dionne Bromfield, Yuck (they're brits I think, I listen to bbc all the time) Don't be that guy who just listens to 80's....
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Slowtrain9
07:55 PM on 06/24/2011
Be that guy, Mark! Dare to be that guy.
bobcaygeon
That night in Toronto.....
03:58 PM on 06/24/2011
Taboo was a "hit" musical?
07:12 PM on 06/24/2011
It was quite successful in London and ran there for a while. I think that is what he is referring to. It flopped on Broadway, but that was a totally different production than the one that was a hit in London.
bobcaygeon
That night in Toronto.....
10:32 PM on 06/24/2011
Thanks for the reply, Susanna. I've learned my something new for today - have a good weekend!
03:50 PM on 06/24/2011
Don't be ashamed! I'm proudly stuck in the '80s. Been spinning 80s new wave in Philadelphia for 8 years now. There are still true fans!
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kapalabhati
Lokah Samasta Sukhino Bhavantu
03:47 PM on 06/27/2011
I love Pandora. I type in, e.g., The Cure, and bingo! hours of entertainment.
03:50 PM on 06/24/2011
I saw a show several years ago that had Howard Jones, Human League and Wang Chung. I danced my ass off while my much younger co-workers laughed. The memories of our youth stay with us forever. By the way, Paul Weller still kicks butt regularly.
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kapalabhati
Lokah Samasta Sukhino Bhavantu
03:48 PM on 06/27/2011
Yep, I've seen Weller a few times.
01:12 PM on 06/29/2011
I'm a huge solo Weller fan, and have seen him live many times...in fact, I think his solo stuff is superior to his Style Council and Jam output.
02:19 PM on 06/24/2011
Great article, Marc! I guess we all tend to like the groups that we grew up with or came to know as teenagers. I like some of those groups, but since I'm a little younger than you my real obsession is the 90's alternative rock groups who tend to be equally forgotten. People make fun of me saying you still like grunge or do you wear flannel shirts and baby doll dresses? But I don't care, I'm at the Soundgarden show!
Jeff, Marc has the right to like what he likes. There is no such thing as good or bad taste, it's all just a matter of opinion! He's not putting down your taste, why put down his?. But guess what many people don't like jazz. blues or country and find it boring. So your taste is your opinion which many people don't agree with. How would you like it if people put down your taste and called it terrible or garbage?
And it's funny you mention Lily Allen because some of her songs are similiar in style to Culture Club and the media has compared them. So maybe you should listen to something before putting it down.
03:39 PM on 06/24/2011
The point is my eleven year old can listen to Anita O'Day- a jazz singer from the 40's- and completely enjoy it. She's been exposed to a variety of music.
Marc may want to listen to music from other eras-if he has any interest in broadening himself.
I've heard Spandau Ballet and I don't want to hear it again.
Synth bands from the 80's don't have a timeless quality to my ears the way that Otis Redding, Frank Sinatra, or Patti Smith do.
07:09 PM on 06/24/2011
How do you know he doesn't listen to other music as well? He doesn't say 80's music is all he likes. He doesn't put down other music so to me he seems to have a much broader taste than you do. He doesn't say he won't listen to a certain type of music like you do. It seems to me you are the one that is closed minded and refuses to open yourself to a different type of music.
Personally, I don't think an 11 year old can relate to the type of music you mention. It seems to me you are forcing very serious adult music on an 11 year old which they really aren't equipped to understand. Kids grow up too fast. There's plenty of time to be serious later. Let a child have fun and dance and enjoy fun music whether it's Culture Club or Lady Gaga. Culture Club is much more age appropriate for an 11 year old child than the artists you mention.
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Jen Celli
Done sitting and watching quietly.
04:15 PM on 06/30/2011
Ah... Patti Smith. She is absolutely one of my favorites and so often misunderstood. "Horses" was one of my favorite albums in high school. Next to Chrissy Hynde, no chick rocks it so hard with so much heart in it.
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kapalabhati
Lokah Samasta Sukhino Bhavantu
03:50 PM on 06/27/2011
My kids hate Nirvana. Possibly one of the saddest revelations of my adult life. Maybe when they know their (much older) cousins love them, they'll want to be in on it.
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LLNYRN
01:03 PM on 06/24/2011
I'm in my late 40s.
I get joked on about this at my job all the time.

But the same young cats who rag on me are the same ones who keep asking me questions about the artists/songs that are playing on the job's piped-in PANDORA system. They are constantly jealous about all the concerts I've been to in the 70s/80s too. LOL

I got a rep at work as a musical "know-it-all".

I also tease them that at least we had bands in which we knew the name of every member in my day. You know the names of every member in My Morning Jacket? The Decemberists? Maroon 5?
LOL
12:55 PM on 06/24/2011
Marc- sorry to say- but that music is awful. It is as if you've never been exposed to good music.
Hard to believe - but you owe it to yourself and your child to expose them to some good music- jazz, blues, classic country.
The 80's music you mention hasn't aged well since it is garbage. How sad for you and your family and they are right in banning your taste from the car, etc.
Do you have poor taste in literature and film, as well?
My 11 year old daughter likes Anita O'Day, Captain Beefheart, Tom Waits, as well as more popular fare Like Lily Allen.
03:16 PM on 06/24/2011
Jeff, you're killing me (though I did enjoy you in Purple Rose of Cairo).

Here I was going to write an amusing response about how I too have a soft spot for some 80s pop (Joe Jackson, Squeeze, Violent Femmes, Talking Heads, Pretenders, and pretty much anything from Springsteen and Tom Petty).

But you had to go all "do you have poor taste in literature and film as well?" on us.

I had a couple of friends in college who were serious music junkies. David had very definite tastes in music. He could tell you exactly why you HAD to listen to this artist or that album. But he was completely cool with all kinds of music. I never heard him put down anyone for liking stuff that most people found pretty wretched.

Then there was Steve. He was the classic "I liked U2 and REM before they got popular" guy. He hated 90 percent of all new and old music and assumed that if you liked, for example, Bob Dylan, you had no ear for music, no taste in anything. (Yes, he despised Dylan, the Beatles and the Police, for some reason).

I'll appeal to you the same way I appealed to Steve. Taste in music, like a painting or sculpture or movies or anything, is subjective, so why does someone's favorite song have to automatically be bad just because you don't like it? If they enjoy it, it's good to them and that should be enough.
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Slowtrain9
07:52 PM on 06/24/2011
Poseur alert! Hipster warning! You let you're daughter listen to Capt. Beef? I'm calling social services.