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You've Been Robbed By the Supreme Court's Whatcott Decision

Posted: 02/27/2013 12:21 pm

Dear Supreme Court of Canada,

You have unanimously ruled that the majority of the hate speech provisions of the Saskatchewan Human Rights Code are a constitutionally valid limit on Canadians' freedom of expression and religion. And you have reinstated the Human Rights Tribunal's conviction of William Whatcott for the distribution of two anti-gay flyers, as a result. (You did not reinstate his previously overturned conviction for two other flyers.)

While I personally find Mr. Whatcott's message repugnant, I am nonetheless in favour of his being able to peacefully express his religious and political opinion on teachings about homosexuality in public schools, without being silenced by the government and forced to pay tens of thousands of dollars in damages. (I'm a little like Voltaire that way, though your decision has moved me to blog rather than to put my life on the line.)

Given your decision to uphold the ban on speech "likely to expose" particular groups to "hatred," I have to ask how you can expect even the most well-meaning of judges to make objective classifications about what is, at the core, an emotion that lives in people's hearts? I know, you've tried to get around this troublesome point -- to make us forget that you are ultimately criminalizing a sentiment -- in a number of ways. First, you have explained that hatred "must be interpreted as being restricted to those extreme manifestations of the emotion described by the words 'detestation' and 'vilification.'" Indeed "detestation" and "vilification" are apt enough synonyms for "hatred" and they could, it might be argued (and this seems to be your point), be considered even stronger forms of the word. But changing the terminology does not change the fact that making a determination here still requires the judges to engage in prospectively reading the hearts and minds of the general public. This is an exercise in speculation, and one that I would suggest is far better suited to psychics and pundits than it is to arbiters of justice who have the power to restrict an individual's liberty based on their conclusions.

I know, you're trying to be fair, and to avoid the perception that you're censoring unpopular ideas. "The repugnancy of the ideas being expressed is not sufficient to justify restricting the expression, and whether or not the author of the expression intended to incite hatred or discriminatory treatment is irrelevant," you say.

But that doesn't quite save you, does it? For consider the logical consequences of your decision. Suppose there were an incredibly disturbing but indisputably true fact about a protected group -- a fact that would be likely to make people think ill of that group (to detest it, if you prefer). You have now created a situation where an individual who wrote a newspaper article reporting that truth could logically and legally be convicted of a hate crime.

The biggest loser here is not Mr. Whatcott. It is Canada, which will lose more in the breadth and honesty of public expression and debate as a result of your opinion than you seem to realize.

I'm not disputing that expression can lead to harm. But listen to yourselves for a moment. You say, "The difficulty of establishing causality and the seriousness of the harm to vulnerable groups justifies the imposition of preventive measures that do not require proof of actual harm." Does this not sound like the makings of a Minority Report-like dystopia, in which people who have committed no crimes are thrown in prison to prevent expected future harms?

You can't change your decision now, so please do the next best thing. Interpret your own caveats on the use of these speech limits as strictly as possible. You've robbed us of a significant freedom, but you still have the power to minimize the damage.

Sincerely,
Marni Soupcoff
Formerly a constitutional lawyer, always an advocate of free speech

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01:27 AM on 03/04/2013
Men created gods to control people, especially women and to separate you from your money. Some religions even want to control your sex life.
02:20 PM on 03/03/2013
Problem is, he wasn't telling the "truth". While it is "true" (factual) that you can find the words printed in the KJV bible, that"no man shall lie with a man as a woman, for this is an abomination to the lord", that does not make the statement itself true. God never said that, a man did. God never, ever said anything to anyone AND LEFT EVIDENCE. For all we know, a man wrote this, then told the gullible fools that god had told him this, so obey. Get it now? God never said that homosexuality was a sin. A man did. God never said anything was a sin. He has never "said" or written anything. The christian bible is merely one group's version (opinion) of what their particular god wants. There are over 4000 bona fide religions, and 26000 secondary religions in the world, all with differing opinions, which makes all the words merely the opinions of men. Period. Nothing more. Just because a person believes with all his might that something is true, does not make it so. Sorry, zealots.
BTW, eating pork, shellfish, tattoos, women speaking in church, working on the sabbath, not killing a person working on the sabbath,etc., are all WAY more abominable to that "lord" guy. The original definition of abominable was "irritation". Odd how christians (and all other religions) get to pick and choose who is offending their abominable snowman. Hypocrites all.
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LGC1953
Be careful what you ask for, you might get it
10:38 AM on 03/03/2013
I just checked your profile, it says nothing about you being a "constitutional lawyer". It does, however, speak loudly as to where you received your "freedom to hate" education!!!
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elsita woods
Mona Lisa had the highway blues.
09:20 PM on 03/02/2013
Replying to a comment where I advocate for freedom of speech, “agsterino” posts: “i will be right behind you supporting anti bullying programs. Bullying that result in suicide deaths to escape harassment and persecution ... The very thing you are fighting for the freedom to do.”

I have designed and successfully implemented anti-bullying programs.
For over thirty years my job has involved serving various marginalized groups: immigrants working in construction trades; a First Nations community; disabled and unemployed workers; severely disadvantaged youths needing education and job training; clients at three probation/parole offices; a shelter for homeless men and youths; families and single mothers receiving financial assistance from Social Services; and refugees and new Canadians. Over 25 of my work years have been dedicated as a counselor/educator serving youths and adults in Toronto's Jane/Finch Corridor, an exceptionally diverse neighbourhood struggling with issues related to poverty and youth violence. My passion and practice as an educator have been to foster dignity and respect for ALL.
….AND I defend free speech. If I was able to implement programs accordingly, fostering a respectful learning environment that never prompted a SINGLE incident of strife or disrespect, why do such fundamental values make some people's heads implode? And why are we so giddily eager to surrender our rights to self-expression to the State?
06:15 PM on 03/07/2013
This is the first time I've ever heard the process of a case going through the channels, the appeals, the whole thing, until it makes it's way to the Supreme Court of Canada a "Giddily Eager" one. There are checking mechanisms. This is not a thing that was not reflected upon soberly.
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elsita woods
Mona Lisa had the highway blues.
10:15 PM on 03/07/2013
Thank, thank you, Mr. mechanic -- or may I call you quantum? I am positively rattled, not just by the decision itself, but by the way rank-and-file Canadians have rushed to embrace and defend it, ironically, with much venom towards anyone who dares to question it. I've taken an enormous load of flack from HuffPosters for my various posts on this decision. People who oppose this outcome aren't speaking up: They should be ashamed. Or maybe they're afraid they'll be next on the the Supreme Court's roster.
Chilling either way.
Thank you for your comment.
May I fan you?
04:53 PM on 03/02/2013
On this blog, Ms. Soupcoff takes the SCC decision on with a straight "freedom of speech" versus "muzzling free speech" attack. Fair enough, but by categorizing Mr. Whatcott's views as religious she exposes the obvious problem with her defence. On another news feed a blogger was approaching the "freedom of speech" versus "having to be assaulted in public by hate speech" battle by implying that this SCC decision was waging war on Christianity. Mr. Whatcott can't hide behind his religion any more than he can hide behind free speech when he stands in public and defames a minority. And I don't care what minority you'd like to choose: homosexuals, Jews, mentally challenged persons, people of colour - you name it - in civilized society you cannot expect free speech to triumph over a person or persons' right to go about their business and not be assaulted by his particular kind of hatred.

There is nothing to recommend to Mr. Whatcott because he feels it is his responsibility to communicate his fear of minorities (and I believe it is fear rather than hatred) to the public at large. I wonder what true Christians think of this.
05:22 PM on 03/01/2013
I wonder what specific loss Marni is predicting by this decision.

The argument here seems to rely entirely on imaginary situations where someone is trying to revel some truth about a particular group, yet muzzled by an overbearing government. Like what, exactly? when has that ever happened and been a positive thing?

Does Marni think there actually IS some Jewish conspiracy just waiting to be unveiled? Or a conspiracy every muslim is in on about working together to overthrow the constitution? She makes a serious error by implying there are ways that you can lump whole ethnicities together at all that are meaningful and worth "exposing".
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ProgressiveCDN
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04:51 PM on 03/01/2013
It is a complicated issue unless you decide it is not.. That is to say, if you're an advocate of any and all free speech no matter what, then it's obvious why this ruling is troubling.

As someone who watches Americans abuse their free speech all the time on American news (think Westboro Baptist Church protesting at military funerals)... I was pleasantly surprised to see the SCOC come out on this side of the issue.

It's a slippery slope when you enshrine free speech and hate speech on the same level. I assume Marni is a Canadian constitutional lawyer, so I respect her views on this subject.

The way I see it, this ruling hopefully clogged a drain that otherwise would have allowed much more sewage to spill out on society.
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agsterino
Less stuff . . . more meaning
12:45 PM on 03/01/2013
My emphasis for a civilized society is more to freedom from persecution, not freedom to persecute.
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Mark Wickens
04:31 PM on 02/28/2013
Thank you, Marni Soupcoff. I hope those cheering this decision never have the need to express “detestation” for some group for whom it’s politically incorrect to do so. Or maybe I hope the opposite.
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colpy
08:42 AM on 03/01/2013
I was actually upset when I first starting reading the comments here....it seemed no one understood the most basic concepts of freedom of speech. Thankfully, some of those that do support free expression have come out of the closet, :), thus refreshing some of my faith in the people.

Now, if we could only get a couple of people that have a clue on the SCOC..............
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agsterino
Less stuff . . . more meaning
12:21 PM on 03/01/2013
You think it is merely "politically incorrect" to encourage hatred and spread misinformation about the gay issues?
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colpy
12:36 PM on 02/28/2013
"If the Court is inclined to wink at the state's traditional need to prove its case, it is not so indulgent of the defendant. As anyone who follows the workings of human rights tribunals can attest, they are a strange parody of ordinary criminal courts. Not only is it no defence that the accused had an honest belief in what he said: it is not even a defence that it is factually true. Here, too, the Court is at peace. As the decision primly advises, "truth may be used for widely disparate ends." I cannot quite believe I am reading these words, even now."

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/02/27/andrew-coyne-supreme-court-twists-the-charter-of-rights-in-its-haste-to-limit-free-speech/

Mr. Coyne is exactly right.

And let me add that the Trudeaupian Charter is useless, and the justices worthless.
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Bytown
One way or the other!!
12:22 PM on 02/28/2013
“Free speech is meant to protect unpopular speech. Popular speech, by definition, needs no protection.” -Neal Boortz
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techhie
03:22 AM on 03/01/2013
I'm with you............
12:22 PM on 02/28/2013
I'm quite disappointed in the Supreme Court's ruling, but I can't say I'm that surprised. More troubling than the ruling is the reaction I have seen in the comment section of this board. Reading the comments on this article reaffirms what I've long suspected: freedom of expression is nearly dead in this country.

I will not bother debating the issue with anyone, as it is nearly impossible to convince someone to adopt a value (such as free expression) that is fundamentally alien to them. I will only provide a quote which I think expresses my views quite well on this subject:

G.K. Chesterton - Eugenics and Other Evils:

Each man promises to be about a thousand policemen. If you ask them how this or that will work, they will answer, "Oh, I would certainly insist on this"; or "I would never go so far as that"; as if they could return to this earth and do what no ghost has ever done quite successfully --- force men to forsake their sins. Of these it is enough to say that they do not understand the nature of a law any more than the nature of a dog. If you let loose a law, it will do as a dog does. It will obey its own nature, not yours. Such sense as you have put into the law (or the dog) will be fulfilled. But you will not be able to fulfill a fragment of anything you have forgotten to put into
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agsterino
Less stuff . . . more meaning
12:42 PM on 03/01/2013
And marijuana is a gateway drug to addiction too right?

Freedom from persecution trumps freedom to persecute in my books.
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Bytown
One way or the other!!
12:21 PM on 02/28/2013
We live in a country where citizens have the right to say stupid and even repugnant things.

That's the essence of free speech, however, and it isn’t up to the individual to prove that they should not be allowed to voice those opinions; it is up to government and the courts to prove that there is justifiable reason to limit them. That is clearly stated in our Charter of Rights and Freedoms and a Human Rights Tribunal shouldn’t have the authority to undermine what is so clearly set out in that document.

The Court ruled that, “It is not necessary, that is, to show the material in question actually exposes anyone to hatred — only that it might.” In other words, the court has moved from actual harm to the possibility that just maybe there might be.

Our system of justice wasn’t established to deal with ‘what ifs’ but rather with ‘what is’.

In other words, the Supreme Court of Canada has drifted into the same attitude of Human Rights Tribunals which seek to ensure the rights of some by restricting the rights of all. This is becoming too common and we're rapidly becoming a society that is less interested in the right to free speech than we are in the right to correct speech as defined by one group or another. We are throwing away our right to free voice our opinions in favour of our desire not to be offended by a few who abuse the right.
11:33 AM on 02/28/2013
My religion is misogny. In my church we teach that all women and girls should be strictly controlled and only a few be kept for breeding stock. Under the Supreme Court decision my church would be banned as promoting hate to an identifiable group. Under your argument my church should be allowed to flourish. The weakness in your argument is that you must narrowly define 'religion' and 'church' and 'worship.' It seems to me that the Human Rights Commission and the Supreme Court have it right in that there are limits to the freedom of religion and limits to the expression of free speech. Promoting hate is one of those limits.
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elsita woods
Mona Lisa had the highway blues.
03:44 PM on 02/28/2013
"My religion is misogny."
There are faith groups which contain certain contingents that ARE considered misogynistic by many Canadians--especially Canadian women. These are groups in which women are expected to wear a specific type of outfit which precludes activities like public swimming or basking in warm weather. Mutilation of female organs is practiced children by some adherents of these groups. And there have been cases of domestic murder against daughters who were considered by their religious families to have stepped out of line. "Under your argument my church should be allowed to flourish." Yet, under Canada's constitution as enforced (or not) by our courts, these faith groups ARE being allowed to flourish! However, a very conservative self-described 'Christian,' who puts out his views on homosexuality in a pamphlet, does not enjoy the same protection as these groups.
Your argument is lofty-sounding but, in failing to expose the hypocrisy in the current Canadian system, it doesn't hold water.
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agsterino
Less stuff . . . more meaning
12:51 PM on 03/01/2013
You are confusing two separate issues.

In your scenario, it should read that these " misogynists" should have the right to pass out hate literature to any woman who is not conforming to their misogyny.

This freedom is not about stopping the opinions of this person, it is to stop his public PERSECUTION of a specific group.
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FreeProud
09:38 AM on 02/28/2013
Seems the author can't tell the difference between hate speech and freedom of speech. Thankfully our courts can.
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colpy
12:34 PM on 02/28/2013
Often, they are EXACTLY the same thing.

The problem is the Supreme Court can not tell the difference between freedom and repression.
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FreeProud
08:39 PM on 02/28/2013
In this case they certainly can. One does not empower bullying by calling it freedom.
09:58 AM on 03/01/2013
Oftenn they arent actually.. if you think it is your right to make demonizing, stereotyping, hateful untrue statements about a particular group of people. You are welcome to proclaim your view about anyone.

The SC can't tell?? are you serious??? umm abortion, gay marriage. it only counts as freedom if it is for your white straight canada.
heterodoxlibertarian
bleeding heart libertarian
01:32 PM on 02/28/2013
Hate speech is free speech. People do this all the time. Whatever speech they don't like is not really free speech. So for the left, anti-gay speech is not free speech and for the right rap music isn't really free speech and neither is sexual content. Thank god we have organizations like the Canadian Civil Liberties Association that understand that you don't make society more tolerant by restricting speech.
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FreeProud
08:41 PM on 02/28/2013
There is a difference between not liking something and being bullied. There is a difference between freedom and hate. And yes you do make society more tolerant but giving society rules to live by, one of them is not to spew hatred.