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Are Women to Blame for Perpetuating Female Stereotypes?

Posted: 03/16/2012 9:57 am

A female acquaintance of mine who lives in Washington, D.C. asked me the other day for a nightclub recommendation. She was interested in going to a club, and had zero idea where to go. Although I seemed like a bizarre choice for such a question (I have lived in Toronto for the past 6 years and barely know the nightlife scene in my current city, let alone Washington D.C.), my acquaintance quickly assured me that she was a "book nerd" and "got weird around boys," and thus she couldn't possibly know of a nightclub in her own city to take her friends to.

Her description of herself quickly put me off. Since when did being a lover of books mean one had to be awkward around the other sex? Didn't a confidence in one's own mind dispel any form of awkwardness, as self assured confidence is wont to do? This all-too familiar logic underscored the stereotype that beautiful women were destined for a lifetime of stupidity, while "book lovers" were guaranteed a life filled with intellectual stimulation -- but little else. Who came up with these stereotypes?

Many women would be quick to blame men. But in fact, I most often encounter the perpetuation of these stereotypes among other women. Perhaps it's because we feel envy or threatened by women who are different from ourselves, or seem to possess something we don't. Thus women can be cruel to each other, and create ridiculous, arbitrary rules of needing to be one thing or another: You can't be beautiful AND smart. You can't be nerdy AND socially adept or without in need of a makeover. You can't be powerful AND flirt.

Are women who defy these stereotypes just as mystical and mythical as mermaids and unicorns? Or could they possibly walk amongst us mortals?

Actress Natalie Portman is breathtakingly beautiful, with a face not just for the screen but for magazines -- and she has graduated from Harvard. She proves that a woman can think, and her thinking doesn't discount what is on her face. Zelda Fitzgerald was known for her beautiful face, and was loved and admired for her wonderfully original mind. Marilyn Monroe was tormented by her beauty -- for no one took seriously the thinking woman inside. My late grandmother, Barbara Frum, was a brilliant woman who could terrify men and women alike with her questions and insight; but her face was beautiful, and her demeanour always elegant. Beautiful and thinking women clearly exist; those are just a few names. And we could play the same game listing off examples of women who defy the other stereotypes.

Women become angry if a man treats a woman as two dimensional -- the old, "Talk to my face, not my chest" problem. And yet we constantly allow ourselves to be pegged into holes by other women. Although we are capable of birthing children, carrying the weight of a family on our backs in addition to whatever demanding jobs we might have, are our egos so fragile and envy-filled that we cannot handle women who defy the "code?"

If we as women are going to rally against men who only see us in two dimensions, then we must also rally against the women who believe it more than men do. A woman who treats another woman in the same two dimensions is just as bad as a sexist man.

As Ghandi said, a person must be the change they wish to see in the world. If a woman demands equality, she must be careful she is not the force holding other women back. Women must boost each other, not passively bicker and cut each other down, so that there is only a weak mess of scraps left for men to take advantage of.

 

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A female acquaintance of mine who lives in Washington, D.C. asked me the other day for a nightclub recommendation. She was interested in going to a club, and had zero idea where to go. Although I seem...
A female acquaintance of mine who lives in Washington, D.C. asked me the other day for a nightclub recommendation. She was interested in going to a club, and had zero idea where to go. Although I seem...
 
 
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04:05 PM on 03/19/2012
Of course women aren't to blame, women are blameless and its always men's fault.
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07:46 PM on 03/18/2012
We are all victims of our biology.

Men compete against men to attract the best mate. And women compete against women for the same reason, except their field of competition is different than men's.

We may live in a technology advanced civilization, but we've got the same old hormones buzzing around in our blood stream.
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07:27 PM on 03/18/2012
I've read many accounts by successful women who said that their father was their biggest encourager, and that other women were often their greatest obstacle. Not something hard-core feminists want to hear, much less deal with.
03:34 PM on 03/18/2012
Both men and women are equally to blame for all gender stereotypes and expectations. It is all of society that perpetuates it.
04:53 AM on 03/18/2012
Just flip through a copy of Chatelaine, the most popular women's magazine in Canada by far to find out what a lot of women are really interested in. It's sad really. I'm a dude so I asked my female co-workers, "Do most women really believe this crap?" They nodded their heads glumly. "Do they put up with all this advertising?" Yep--in fact, it's effective! Or, they wouldn't it. "Well, what about the lies, the constant mendacity, that the cosmetic companies tell women day after day...do they really believe that?" Pause..I guess so. Come on, gals...give us dudes some confidence in your intelligence and integrity. I invite all female replies.
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Issaquah79
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11:22 PM on 03/17/2012
Of course women are part of the problem. We are all part of this culture and we buy into what is promoted by this culture. Women put limitations on their sex just as often as men. Our society and planet as a whole doesn't understand or appreciate the feminine. Until the feminine takes its rightful place in society women will never be equal. Feminism is not merely about women being able to do what men do just as well as men and being seen as equal to men in this regard, that it is easy and has been done. Feminism is about the feminine being respected as much as the masculine. It is not. Feminism MUST include both men and women understanding, appreciating, and experiencing the feminine in society. The forces have been out of balance for a long time now.
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jf12
Esta vez saldré como las otras y me escaparé.
12:01 PM on 03/19/2012
"women put limitations on their sex". I'm just agreeing.
11:07 PM on 03/17/2012
This is a great piece. As a man who respects and appreciates women of power, talent, beauty, etc. I am often frustrated by women who seem to sabatoge themselves, and even the efforts of men around them to break the stereotypes.

My girlfriend is gorgeous. She is also a sound engineer, not a common female vocation, and she is very, very good at it. She also happens to have better hand-eye coordination than average (tho no interest in athletics) and has the voice of an angel. Some say she should be in front of a microphone instead of a sound console. This is not just my personal bias, ask any man that has seen her and her work and heard her sing and they will tell you the same thing.

She and I often run into the standard stereotypical problems, everyone assumes I am the sound guy because I help her set things up (its a big system, it takes more than one person to set up and tear down). People presume even if she is behind the board that she is either training under me or at least that I own the gear. She has been doing this for 12 years, I have known her for 5. She built up from a small system to a large one by being good and by reinvesting her earnings. It is always my pleasure to throw it in the men's faces that make those assumptions.
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11:28 PM on 03/17/2012
The women, on the other hand, rail on her physical appearance and make assumptions concerning her promiscuity and all sorts of things, and I am always at a loss for how to handle that. She is always talking about watching what she wears in specific environments because of people's reaction. When I press for further reasoning, it is always the women's reaction that is an issue, and they are also the ones that get turned off when I or other people compliment her ability. Jealousy is an evil thing, it robs society of the respect and equality it should have.
09:57 PM on 03/17/2012
We need more articles like this!
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Kingpleasure
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09:49 PM on 03/17/2012
Article quote:"my acquaintance quickly assured me that she was a "book nerd" and "got weird around boys," and thus she couldn't possibly know of a nightclub in her own city to take her friends to.

Her description of herself quickly put me off. Since when did being a lover of books mean one had to be awkward around the other sex?"

I found this article to be well silly. She based the premise her whole article on one statement from her friend who described *HER* self as being a book nerd who got weird around boys. So what? Her friend was not talking about any other woman, just herself. This author took that statement personally and applied it to *women*. What for? Just because her friend is a self professed book nerd who is awkward around guys doesn't mean that other women are. That's common sense and has already been dispelled as a myth. What if her friend had said she was an obsessive musician with no social skills who felt awkward in a club? Would that have rubbed her friend the wrong way too? Or a shy woman who felt awkward around men. Sometimes, i think people just 'look for things to get nitpicky about. Nothing here folks, move along.
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Felix99
Born to be mild!!!!
10:47 PM on 03/17/2012
Well reasoned, well said, King!!! And totally true!!!
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eddy joe
welcome to the machine
09:48 PM on 03/17/2012
the old, "Talk to my face, not my chest" problem. When you expose it, it becomes a problem.
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Runtime Al
The truth hurts.
10:37 PM on 03/17/2012
Which would lead me to state, women are their own worst enemy.
08:47 PM on 03/17/2012
I just sold couple high heels.Because at late 20s, I am sick and tired of wearing those crazy shoes.Now I am sure there are so much stereotypes out there which are mainly perpetuated by media.This is the reason women spent a lot of money to adhere to the barbie idea of beauty.The barbie syndrome is hard to manifest for anybody who is dark skin hence more frustration.I am learning to accept what I have and learn to work with my curl hair and my curved body,and be able to find right shade of foundation.Love yourself ladies, complement another woman.Stop backstabbing.
09:36 PM on 03/17/2012
I love your post.  There's so much truth in what you said.
10:07 PM on 03/17/2012
Thank you.
08:26 PM on 03/17/2012
Women are definitely equally responsible. First of all, I am a woman who has raised a daughter and sons. The author of this piece is very honest and right on many points. We live in a society that tells women that they are supposed to be "equal" yet strips them of their right to their own thoughts at every turn; and men as well. Women are targeted constantly by ads about looking and behaving in certain ways and are constantly told what they should buy and are blasted with hypocritical information. WOMEN are the spenders of the money in this day and age and are told that their value lies in their looks and what they have and that the world revolves around them and all men are trying to keep them down. The "war on women" is a lie by desperate individulas attempting to remain in power. A woman's (or man's) worth should be based on the individual, not the oh you're a women so we are going to hand you everything mentality. In this age men are discriminated against far more X
11:09 PM on 03/17/2012
You say that in this age men are discriminated against far more? Could you maybe expound on this? What is your reasoning behind this statement?
07:16 PM on 03/17/2012
No, women are not responsible for this...we live in a patriarchal world where identity is based on those ales...it doesn't matter who perpetuates negativity against women....men or women...as these negative. Views reflect patriarchy, not the gender of those who buy into the deeply ingrained views of women and girls which, unfortunately, are so detrimental against them....and by the way, shame on you, as a woman, for blaming women
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MissTake1989
Equal means equal, hypocrites.
08:41 PM on 03/17/2012
Yep, rather than take personal responsiblity and practice accountability and THUS enable a change in behavior...treat ANY and ALL criticism as "blame."

And then you yourself BLAME ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING on the shadowy, invisible (imaginary) patriarchy.

Modern feminism is pure poison.
09:26 PM on 03/17/2012
"Modern feminism is pure poison. "

I doubt this is actually modern feminism. More like throwback feminism of Catherine McKinnon and Andrea Dworkin.
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MissTake1989
Equal means equal, hypocrites.
10:24 PM on 03/17/2012
By the way...

"it doesn't matter who perpetuates negativity against women"

"and by the way, shame on you, as a woman, for blaming women"
05:33 PM on 03/17/2012
For one, women and men are both to blame for the perpetuation of the myth. As a pubic elementary school teacher, I can tell that media is pervasive and whether you choose to believe it or not, has an effect that extends well after the television or computer is turned off. The nerdy girl is usually always represented as a girl with glasses (which makes her "ugly") and taking them off reveals a stunning beauty. Men don't want smart girls, they want loyal wives. Consider Beauty and the Beast: Belle is originally a smart, "nerdy girl" who is harrassed by Gaston, who in normal male circles would be an alpha male; up against the Beast he is miniscule. If Belle is so independent and strong, and intelligent, why does she remain with an abusive partner in the Beast? That's just one specific example. Television shows, the change in dolls and action figures, "reality shows," and the dangerous phenomenom of "Team Breezy" are other massive problems. Saying, "Oh it's just a ____" is denying the influence of all these parts of mass media.

Segregated schools are not the answer because they are not reality. And with respect, teachers who believe there are no cliques in school (even segregated schools) are avoiding the reality of hidden curriculums.
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jf12
Esta vez saldré como las otras y me escaparé.
12:05 PM on 03/19/2012
The statistics are that men want smart women, but the smart women don't want them. And significantly, smart men want women, but women don't want smart men. Yes, there are references.
12:43 PM on 03/19/2012
men say they want smart women, until they realize they can't "control" them. that's when men "want" a baby, neutralizing the power of the woman. smart women don't want men because they know that men just see them as a mountain to conquer. women certainly do want smart men: being smart and intelligent (as long as you're also strong) is a very valued trait in men. it used to just be about strength and protection.

loads of generalizations there, no?!?! :)
CarmanK
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04:39 PM on 03/17/2012
To overcome the envy, WOMEN need role models to lead and to teach. We only got the vote in 1919, civil rights in 1965 and the Lily Ledbetter "equal pay for equal work" in 2009. Men have been in charge for centuries, women are comfortable in their leadership: Like the abused spouse, they are not sure if the goodness can last or when it will turn. We need more women managers and training, more women supervisors, business owners and COMPANY EXECS. And they need to be really successful. Meg Whitman sold out, and so have others who want to be part of the GOOD OLE BOYS NETWORK. Brewer in AZ and Haley in SC are disasters as governors. But look at the two Barbaras in the US Senate: Boxer and Mikulski, they are women whose actions make us proud. We need more women to mentor future leaders.