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With Terry Jones, Canada Customs Overstepped Its Bounds

Posted: 10/12/2012 12:00 am

On Thursday, Canada Customs, that wonderfully-democratic institution of unelected bureaucrats, decided that Canadians weren't capable of deciding whether Pastor Terry Jones, whose congregation held a Quran burning in March 2011, was worth listening to. This is the same institution that led a discriminatory moral crusade against LGBTQ bookstores Little Sister's and Glad Day Bookshop back in the 1990s, and just recently, prevented a PG-rated movie from being brought into the country, because it was destined to be played at the LGBTQ-focused Inside Out Film Festival. They have a long history of overstepping their authority, and today's denial of entry for Terry Jones is just another case of censorship at the hands of unelected and unaccountable government officials.

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As for Terry Jones, I don't have a very high opinion of him, and I don't really care for what he has to say. Would his words constitute hate speech? Perhaps. If so, Canadian law allows us to hold him accountable for what he says while he's here. But that's a very different proposition than deliberately holding him up at the border based on what he might say, and refusing Canadians the right to make that determination for themselves. I believe that it's much harder to discredit a silenced voice than it is to legitimately criticize an outspoken bigot, and it simply empowers him further by making him feel victimized for his opinions.

However, by taking the choice away from Canadians to decide what they're capable of hearing and evaluating for themselves, Canada Customs has done our country yet another disservice. Unfortunately, that's exactly what they've been doing for decades, and this Canadian, for one, is sick of it.

Canada Customs, stop treating Canadians like children, and give us the respect and courtesy of letting us evaluate things for ourselves. Your job is not to tell us what we can or cannot read, or can or cannot hear; your job is to ensure that duty is paid on imported goods and that banned substances are stopped at our borders. Please stop taking it upon yourselves to police our thoughts and minds, and get back to policing goods and commodities like you're supposed to.

This post originally appeared on the author's website, www.MsNikkiThomas.com.

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  • Pakistani journalists shout slogans during a demonstration against the killing of a local journalist in Karachi on October 2, 2012. (ASIF HASSAN/AFP/GettyImages)

  • Pakistani demonstrators march during a protest in Karachi, on September 30, 2012, against the anti-Islam film. (RIZWAN TABASSUM/AFP/GettyImages)

  • Hafiz Saeed, leader of Pakistani religious group Jamaat-ud-Dawa, left, delivers a speech during a protest against a film insulting the Prophet Muhammad, in Lahore, Pakistan, Sunday, Sept. 30, 2012. (AP Photo/K.M. Chaudary)

  • Pakistani supporters of religious group Jamaat-ud-Dawa, hold placards during a protest against a film insulting the Prophet Muhammad, in Lahore, Pakistan, Sunday, Sept. 30, 2012. (AP Photo/K.M. Chaudary)

  • Pakistani Islamist activists shout anti-US slogans during a protest rally against a US-made anti-Islam film and the publication of blasphemous cartoons in France, in Lahore on October 1, 2012. (Arif Ali/AFP/GettyImages)

  • Pakistani supporters of Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat beat with their shoes a representation of a U.S. flag with an image depicting U.S. President Barack Obama, during a rally to protest against a film insulting the Prophet Muhammad, in Karachi, Pakistan, Saturday, Sept. 29, 2012. (AP Photo/Fareed Khan)

 

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On Thursday, Canada Customs, that wonderfully-democratic institution of unelected bureaucrats, decided that Canadians weren't capable of deciding whether Pastor Terry Jones, whose congregation held a ...
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Skepticat
Supporting skeptical felines everywhere
10:55 AM on 10/13/2012
Unelected bureaucrats enforce the rules that exist - one of which is requiring an applicant with an iffy background of inciting hateful behaviour to prove no outstanding warrants or criminal code convictions. Zeal is generally not a character flaw of most bureaucrats who like most employees are generally unlikely to stick their neck out more than necessary. If customs officials prevented someone's favorite movies from getting in there's a pretty good chance there was pressure from a politician's office on their supervisor to do so. Elected politicians given the opportunity are far more likely to circumvent the rules than the bureaucrat who is generally protected by following them.
10:05 PM on 10/12/2012
Pretty sure if Canadians have a wish to know what the crazy preacher from Florida's opinions are, they can find them online somewhere. Meanwhile, he is a product of American style free speech and he can preach his sermons in his own country.
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Verse Doctor
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09:58 PM on 10/12/2012
We have enough 'haters' in this country already Nikki. Read the Amanda Todd story.
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logicanada
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06:57 PM on 10/12/2012
20,000,000 Canadians disagree.
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xiam007
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06:21 PM on 10/12/2012
sorry Nikki, you are wrong - Canada Customs didn't decide he wasn't worth listening to - they told him to go home and come back when you can prove that you have no criminal convictions.
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sgillhoolley
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05:50 PM on 10/12/2012
Why shouldn't unpopular ideas be allowed to compete for support? Once the vast majority thought that slavery was just fine. There was a time when only a fool thought women could handle the responsibility of a vote. Heck, there was even a time when the divine right of Kings was sacrosant, and to question this was strictly taboo. The point is that people have the right to make their own decisions, even if they decide to be ignorant and prejudiced. When you silence an idea, you accept that the government gets to decide if a topic is even up for debate. Freedom gets surely eroded from this point forward, as has happened in the USA, where protests are restricted to First Amendment Zones, and the government has the legal right to indefinately detain any American, without trial or warrant, subject to "enhanced interrogation". A generation ago people would have called you crazy if you had said that American freedoms would be so badly eroded. It is the natural result of accepting government encroachments upon our freedoms. Who knows, one day it might be decided that striking is harmful to society, and therefore antisocial, and therefore cannot be tolerated...and any who try to argue otherwise will be silenced. It might not happen, but these types of decisions pave the way for such things. Wake up people, do you really want someone like Harper to decide for YOU what you can hear or read, say or write???
04:36 PM on 10/12/2012
Anyone else see the irony of it being a German case (from 20 years ago) that they used as the flimsiest of legal excuses to bar someone from the country for his political views?

Anyone? Whatever, at least stop regurgitating the 'official party line' of why he wasn't allowed into the country. They searched his cell phone and laptop, asked him what he was going to say at the rally, etc. They new who they were dealing with and concocted whatever excuse they could find to keep him out.

If you're going to employ that style of strongarm tactic to control public discourse, at least recognize it for what it is. There's no need to support bald-faced propaganda here. We're big kids. We can handle the truth...but I guess our government doesn't see it that way. Most don't. Power corrupts...
Thelonius
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03:35 PM on 10/12/2012
If Terry Jones had burned a copy of the Torah, demonized Jews and maligned their prophets would there be any question that he should have been denied entry to Canada?
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Warren Yuill
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06:18 PM on 10/15/2012
Zactly!
03:17 PM on 10/12/2012
There is no such thing as complete freedom. The instant any person has complete freedom, there is the potential for them to infringe on someone else's freedom. Freedom is a relative thing. For everyone to have an equal amount of relative freedom, there have to be limits. Canadians have recognized this and passed laws distinguishing free expression from expressions of hate. It's one of the things that makes Canada different from the US, and I'm proud of those differences.

Our border agents are empowered by elected officials to evaluate people as they attempt to enter our country. Do they always get it right? No. In this case, I believe they did. This man has committed acts of hatred and inciting violence in his own country that would be considered illegal in ours. We have the right to bar him from entry. Our judicial system is overburdened enough without laying out the welcome mat for someone we know damn well intends to fly in the face of our hate laws.

No one has silenced him. He can go on saying whatever he wants within his own country. Canadians can evaluate his words from where he is. If Canadians want to see him in person, he can speak somewhere just on the US side of the border. No one can stop Canadians from going there -- unless American border guards deny them entry. And you can bet the US would have no qualms about that.
03:06 PM on 10/12/2012
Why is it that we yip when Immigration officals don't do their jobs, and yet we have this yipping going on because they did? Jones has a fraud conviction in Germany and Immigration was acting entirely within their mandate to refuse him entry.
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Patrick Flannery
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01:37 PM on 10/12/2012
Totally agree. Stopping Jones at the border on the basis of what he might say is not the action of a free country, even one as politically correct as we are.
01:34 PM on 10/12/2012
My understanding is that Mr Jones was denied entry because he has had trouble with the law in the US and in Germany. He did not have documentation with him to prove that these charges had been dropped or dismissed. When a person wants to enter another country they need to have any and all documents that may be required. When I travel to the US I am always asked if I have ever been arrested anywhere in the world.

Mr Jones right to free speech has not been infringed. He can still say all he wants on any platform he chooses. Canadians can listen to what he has to say if Mr Jones makes it available through the various media available to him, including the Internet.

Mr Jones is free to try to enter Canada again, he simply has to bring the proper documentation with him to prove that he is admissible into Canada.
01:01 PM on 10/12/2012
I'm with Customs on this one. There is nothing the Canadian government is doing to restrict my ability to hear his garbage spewed. Entry or denial of entry into Canada are not things that impact his freedom of speech in any way. Entry is a privilege granted, not a right.
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Patrick Flannery
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02:22 PM on 10/12/2012
"Hi, Mr. Scott. Welcome to Customs. You understand, of course, that entry is a privilege and not a right. So before you can enter, please fill out this questionnaire confirming you hold the correct political and religious beliefs. "

Now, tell me what country you might be trying to enter?
03:59 PM on 10/12/2012
There's a big difference between already being known and being asked to state your beliefs (which, as far as I can tell, he was not asked).
I grew up near a border city. I know people who got a DUI 20 years ago that have been denied entry to the US. Sovereign nations are perfectly within their rights making calls as to who gets in and who doesn't.
It should be noted that you and I are also perfectly within our rights criticising each of those decisions. Free speech, FTW.
12:42 PM on 10/12/2012
The "reason" he was denied entry was not for his documented political/religious views. If you retain your objectivity and study the evidence it is plainly stated that he wouldn't admit to criminal behaviour. I don't know that the Charter or any of our elected representatives have empowered border officials to be judge and jury. I believe even in Canada one is innocent until proven guilty. So to deny him access for the reason stated is an abuse of authority, as Ms. Thomas has observed. Judging this man as he stands at the border is no better than him sounding off against and convicting a large sample of the planet's inhabitants. The border guards have obviously been given the authority to do so; the question is have they abused it in this instance. Any odious behaviour on the entrant's part after he's admitted to the country is appropiately the domain of the courts. As I said before, the issue is not about what Jones' rights are, but what we as citizens are entitled to. You may want to confine your life to what you find on You Tube and that's your right. I am sure others want to have the right to decide from whom and how they take their ideas. Its fundamental to any democracy.
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Patrick Flannery
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01:41 PM on 10/12/2012
Yes, on further investigation I see Jones was convicted for breach of peace in Michigan. If he lied about that at the border, they would turn him away as a matter of policy. Maybe this whole furor has nothing to do with his silly extremism.
03:08 PM on 10/12/2012
Jones has a fraud conviction in Germany. He is, therefore, not eligible for entry into Canada. Period.
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11:54 AM on 10/12/2012
Nikki..........this is why Jones was refused entry into Canada. You'er reading between the lines and coming to your own conclusions. You maybe correct, but it is conjecture.

"The statement said Jones and a travelling companion were refused entry based on an arrest in Michigan last year for refusing to pay a peace bond as well as a fine by the German government for using the title Doctor based on an honorary doctorate he received from a California university in 1993. Jones said he appealed both disputes and won but the statement indicated that border officials told him they needed more documentation in order to allow him to enter."