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No One Can Stop Bullying... Not Even Dalton McGuinty

Posted: 12/09/11 09:07 AM ET

To be against bullying is one of those motherhood issues on which everyone agrees, but no one knows how to stop the problem.

The recent suicides of young people who were bullied has vaulted the issue into headlines, but apart from tut-tutting, no remedial solutions are forthcoming.

The Ontario government seems convinced that gays and sexual aspects provoke bullying. Baloney. That's only one aspect of bullying. The McGuinty gang has latched onto the sexual aspects because it is convenient and identifiable.

Despite the media, social and political attention directed at bullying, nothing has emerged that gives any indication that it can be stopped. Because bullying is human nature.

In dealing with bullying, it first should be acknowledged or admitted that bullying has always been with us, and will continue to be with us no matter what steps are taken to curb it. It's part of growing up. Most of us learn to deal with it.

In the old days, fathers used to lecture their sons along the lines that "all bullies are cowards," and the way to handle them is to stand up to them. There is some truth in this bromide, but not much.

It's generally true that bullies seek compliant or vulnerable victims, hence their penchant for picking on gay kids, or small kids, chubby kids, kids who don't fight back, or who have candy that the bully wants. That sort of thing,

Bullying usually occurs out of sight of teachers or parents.

The idea that all bullies are cowards tends to be a myth that kids who stand up to bullies sometimes learn to their regret.

It's fine to impress upon kids that bullying is unacceptable and shameful, but its also a reality that bullies often (maybe usually) don't think of themselves as bullies. They might call it teasing, or joking.

And bullying is not necessarily physical. Someone quick with cruel or hurtful words can be as much a bully as a playground thug. There are bullies in the workplace who would strenuously object if they were categorized as bullies, but that may be exactly what they are with those under their authority.

Right now, Premier McGuinty and others seem to be consulting people of the church for advice on controlling bullying. Why is this, one wonders? I'd argue that a minister, priest, rabbi or mullah has no formula to turn others from the path of bullying. In fact, the church itself can produced bullies of a different kind.

I suspect it shows the desperation, even helplessness, of trying to eliminate bullying. Again, in the past, the bullied kid was encouraged to take a Charles Atlas course on body-building, so as to kick sand in the bully's face. That theme still prevails in differing forms. And for some it works.

The hard truth is that although the hostility and repugnance for bullying is acute at the moment, interest is going to flag and another generation of bullies will surface -- gay/straight rainbow alliances that are the political flavour of the moment are not a solution.

Coping with bullies should hinge on parents and siblings more than on government legislation or religious leaders. Teachers are on the front lines, but sadly they often only recognize the syndrome when it is too late. And far too often, teachers themselves are bullies. But like all bullies, they don't recognize it in themselves.

 
To be against bullying is one of those motherhood issues on which everyone agrees, but no one knows how to stop the problem. The recent suicides of young people who were bullied has vaul...
To be against bullying is one of those motherhood issues on which everyone agrees, but no one knows how to stop the problem. The recent suicides of young people who were bullied has vaul...
 
 
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10:24 PM on 12/11/2011
This old guy is living with blinders on. Willfully.

That Mr. Worthingto­n focuses so much of his disdain on the anti-bully­ing campaigns towards gays and lesbians says much about his phobia­s. Suggesting the provincial government latched onto the campaign for convenienc­e purposes is pure spin. And bad spin at that.

Suggesting that society should accept the fact that bullying '...has always been with us, and will continue to be with us no matter what steps are taken to curb it...' is a lip-servic­e cop out.

Mr. Worthingto­n displays his male centric attitudes when he says '...father­s used to lecture their sons...' What, no female bullies? Not even a mention? A line in the article for balance and fairness? Mr. Worthingto­n writes '...in the past, the bullied kid was encouraged to take a Charles Atlas course ...so as to kick sand in the bully's face...' and suggests that this 'theme' of dealing with a bully is still a viable option. Without offering any other options he demonstrat­es his lack of helpful thinking and reliance on tired, old-man, mediocre bullying solutions.

And, agreed, bullying does not necessaril­y always take form physically­. Sometimes the written word, written from a position of white, heterosexu­al privilege and biased condescens­ion is bullying.

'...But like all bullies, they don't recognize it in themselves­...'
BritishColumbian
American/Canadian liberal
05:06 PM on 12/11/2011
Worthington could have said the same thing about women's rights, workers rights and civil rights. That something has been going on forever is not a justification for it to continue.
10:18 PM on 12/10/2011
“Coping with bullies should hinge on parents and siblings more than on government legislation”. REALLY !!?. We live in a society where “It’s tough out there, so you better be tough” IS the norm... or where “the bad boys get the girls” etc… we are teaching our kids this crap because this IS perceived as the way to success. There is no civility in a society where moneys dictates everything. Luckily some really bad things happened in the past so we all agreed upon having a government and some rules (laws). It is in fact the government and law who should stand against bullies and prosecute them.
03:04 PM on 12/10/2011
Really, the attitude expressed in this article, that accepts bullying as a natural and inevitable, if unpleasant, fact of life and part of human interaction, plays a major role in how bullying is perpetuated. Ignoring bullying or being ignorant about it provide as little a solution to a real problem as does acceptance and normalization of it.
02:51 PM on 12/10/2011
"...[T]hey often only recognize the sydrome when it is too late. Far too often, teachers...are bullies." Really?! I would agree even the occasional case of a school teacher bullying a student is especially unacceptable, but I think "far too often" is an exaggeration of the frequency of such incidents.

There may have been a few recent notorious cases of that occurring and being publicly exposed via the internet, but I think those are examples of deviations from the norm of teachers being a positive factor in preventing bullying at school. Teachers also might not be experts in behavioural science or conflict resolution, but they definitely have more experience dealing with young people and their interactions on a daily basis than does anyone else. Youth regularly spend at least as much of their waking hours at school as at home, and often they spend more time with their teachers than any other adult including their parents.

I don't know why there seems to be a theme (the bulk of the last paragraph is dedicated to it) in the article of minimizing the important role teachers have in preventing bullying. Maybe it is due to some ideological objection to the educational system being an institutionalized mechanism for shaping society (if that's not it's legitimate purpose, I don't know what else it might be?) and State interference in people's lives, but I don't think the article's treatment of teachers is fair.
01:55 PM on 12/10/2011
Two points,

The reason most bullying happens out of sight is because the bullies know very well that what they're doing is wrong. If they really believed that what they were doing was just in fun, they would be doing it out in the open where everyone would get the joke. And where such behaviour happens in plain view it is often because someone had taught the bully that what he/she is doing is normal.

Those who view bullying behaviour as "normal" are much the same as those who used to believe that it was a man's right to lay a little correction on his wife and kids with his fists.
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03:28 AM on 12/10/2011
Bullies win when we say it's part of human nature & deal with it. In some workplaces, bullying is considered a form of workplace violence. Mangers who bully can be "constructively dismissed" (fired). We may not be able to stop them from bullying in public venues be we can outlaw it in schools & workplaces. Bullying costs taxpayers millions in absenteeism and by the burden it causes in our health system. So when someone like this authour shrugs it off, he's saying that he's willing to accept the costs - both psychologically and physically.
02:59 AM on 12/11/2011
Can you provide links to the claims you are making about absenteeism?
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cornelison
College grad. Life-long liberal.
06:38 AM on 12/11/2011
A few years ago I spent 2 yrs.researching the topic. I had over 200 pages of articles & outlines on the topic.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/cutting-edge-leadership/201002/workplace-bullying-applying-psychological-torture-work

Absenteeism happens when a target of bullying is too stressed out to go to school or work. Illness from stress alone can develop into chronic pain. Workers are known to take medical leave from their jobs - especially if the person has a chronic illness to begin with.

http://www.ehow.com/info_8217936_consequences-bullying-workplace.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17277427

http://books.google.ca/books?id=dQhz3uFOuaYC&pg=PA146&lpg=PA146&dq=bullying+absenteeism&source=bl&ots=GM59laGwFm&sig=SBAPTiYUnFlAnoFckIFpdoWYc90&hl=en&ei=JJTkTo3QJcfo0QHrtNWABg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CE8Q6AEwAzgK#v=onepage&q=bullying%20absenteeism&f=false

http://www.parentingbookmark.com/pages/articleMB04.htm

http://www.stopbullyingsa.com.au/factors.asp
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02:29 AM on 12/10/2011
Shame on you Mr Worthington for calling a GBLT a "political flavour of the month". As another teen commits suicide. This reported on huffpost.com Gay Voices.
01:40 AM on 12/10/2011
Reading the comments below, I see most disagree with the premise of the article. But actually our whole system is based on bullying. The cops are bullys, our bosses, parents, jails, prosecuters, basically any authority, teachers, principals (you remember the office?). That is why they always talk about downsizing the company- scare the hell out of you, which is bullying. We live in a bullying society. You see it in your bosses and supervisors and people who are ahead of you at your job.
12:27 AM on 12/10/2011
Peter, you have once again shown your complete ignorance of how society works. It is true that much bullying happens out of sight of 'authority'. Does that make it impossible to eliminate? Are people incapable of being educated? I am certain that YOU are but I have hope for others. Education is the key to remedying most issues. I understand that bullies are likely being bullied by someone and that teaches them the tactics. So, education of those being bullied may have to do with convincing them that it is alright to 'fess up and spill the beans on who is bullying them. The bottom line is that people can be educated and they can learn. I am sure that it is easier taking your tact and throwing up your hands and saying 'it's human nature' but that is a cop out, not a solution.
06:39 PM on 12/09/2011
I can't believe this article. No one can stop bullying? You bet it can be stopped. Parents, Teachers and then the police.
BritishColumbian
American/Canadian liberal
05:04 PM on 12/11/2011
I would add the many antibullying groups, pledges and initiatives that are being organized by our young people. To counter bullying we need to encourage these activists to continue to speak out and provide the skills for the "solient" majority to speak out and stand up when they see bullying taking place. Peer pressure as a positive.
04:16 PM on 12/09/2011
Bullying can be reduced if targets, victims and witnesses confront the bully, report him or her to the HR dept. or trade union, or sue the bully and the employer as joint respondents in the claim. Training can help, but it is difficult to alter the nature of bullies. Appropriate legislation will help.

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cornelison
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03:33 AM on 12/10/2011
For bullying to stop, management must agree that it is not to be tolerated in the workplace. Often managers are bullies themselves. If the workplace has a union, it's members can negotiate how to deal with bullies.
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02:53 PM on 12/09/2011
While it is true that parents should be parenting, what do we do in the case where the child is learning bullying from a parent?
02:10 PM on 12/09/2011
The only people who try to justify away the bullying issue as some inevitable part of human nature are almost certainly those who were once -- or still are -- bullies themselves. Yes, kids (and adults) will always be cruel, no doubt, but why should anyone complain about efforts to bring visibility to the issue of particularly vicious, plainly targeted bullying?

This is the kind of bullying which tends to be more acute, which stems from prejudice and ignorance, and which draws the very important distinction between schoolyard name-calling and the kind of brutal harassment that leads kids to kill themselves.

Above all else, why fault anyone for trying to create outlets to ease these prejudices and normalize the differences that are creating them? Is it because you disagree with normalizing differing sexual orientations? That's basically the root of the original prejudice. Visibility works, and it needs to be introduced in schools, especially because many of these children are NOT being taught acceptance at home.

If we left it to parents to pass on their own ignorances to their children and never allowed children to learn a damn thing anywhere else, what a sad state we'd be in.
11:21 AM on 12/09/2011
Cover up of the drug companies, how many of the teen suicides were kids on prozac and other drugs??

No word about that