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It's Their Revolution, They'll Cry If They Want To

Posted: 06/30/2012 12:00 am

If there was any doubt before, there is none now: No one, no country, is coming to the aid of Syrian rebels fighting to rescue themselves from the harsh dictatorship of Bashar al-Assad.

Western sanctions, UN pleas, negotiations by Kofi Annan, pledges by Assad himself, pressure from neighbours, even muted disapproval by Russia have no effect.

A Libyan-type air-strike involvement by NATO powers was never in the works -- Syrian air power is too formidable, and Syrians fight back. Libyan forces were ducks in a barrel for our aircraft.

So the killing goes on -- tanks are now being used against the people, and Assad himself has declared it is war. Perhaps he is even wishing that he'd never given up ophthalmology in London to become dictator of Syria like his dad.

Pragmatically, there is no need for outside intervention.

Yes, a lot of people are being killed, but perhaps even more would be killed if outside force was used to depose Assad.

What started some 16 months ago as peaceful protests has expanded to civil war. Despite ruthless repression and unjustified shelling and killings, the protests have evolved into rebellion. Soldiers are defecting to the so-called Free Syrian Army, and clandestine help is coming from Arab countries, without the involvement of Western countries -- which seem to be the only ones who fret about mass killings.

A revolution is a personal thing for those involved. When outsiders participate, the dynamics change. And revolutions never turn out the way those who lead them expect, or even intend.

When they do go wrong, outsiders are blamed, especially if the "outsiders" are Americans trying to help for misguided humanitarian reasons.

A significant lesson for the world, if it had been paying attention, was the independence struggle waged by Eritrea for 30 years against Ethiopian dominance. Eritrea won that war with no help from any country -- shunned by Western powers, opposed by the Soviet Union which threw its military support to the Marxist Mengistu regime in Ethiopia which once was an American client.

Eritrea basically depended on weapons captured from the enemy. In that war, I personally saw Soviet tanks captured by Eritrean fighters, turned around and used against the Ethiopians. Eritrea has since deteriorated -- but its successful war of independence against Ethiopia should be studied by military people and especially by bellicose politicians.

One could also say Mao's revolution in China was also achieved with limited outside help, apart from Stalin's futile efforts to make Mao into something of a puppet.

As for Syria, fighting is now reported on the outskirts of Damascus. Regardless of the posturing and empty warnings of Western observers, the defeat of Assad now seems more than likely, but inevitable.

Even Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov's denial that he or President Vladimir Putin have urged Assad to give up power, has a hollow ring. When heads of state deny they are doing something, it often indicates that they have already done it.

Russia knows full well that Assad is a tyrant (it takes one to know one?) and it's time he gave way to change. Russia is more concerned about Iran than Syria, which has been Iran's useful ally as a conduit to aid Hamas and Hezbollah.

But that will be another issue, once Bashar Assad is history -- be it in retirement somewhere, or hanged from a lamppost.

 
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08:33 PM on 07/04/2012
It is becoming quite sad to see that Canadians can no longer have any level of dialogue just because they don't like the righty who writes the information.
Should be food for thought.
My thoughts are that we cannot intervene in a military fashion as we don't know in total who we are intervening for but it does not mean we cannot continue to condemn and point out the slaughter because in ignoring that, it makes us all a bit tyrannical. Assad in his reckless inhumanity is not going to easily back down but in my opinion, Russia is the country that needs to get this resolved more sooner than later.

For those who believe it is all part of the resistance and they are to blame, or western interference, try not to forget the eye witness accounts of many people who have seen the gross behaviour of Assad's military at work. A fair fight does not involve torturing children and making excuses for this is disgusting.
In the end, regardless of who is doing what, the innocent are taking the brunt of this and that is far more important than anything else.
12:12 PM on 07/02/2012
The problem is, it's not aid, it's conflict intervention they want. Some big questions pop up, like what would the objective be, Assad out alone, or topple the whole government? Full scale battle, or obtain air superiority (which wil be difficult) and air strikes? Arm the rebels or not? Who exactly are we backing up, who will take over? Could a group like NATO go into this and win, or just get bogged down? Will the UN or NATO aggree to a resolution to do something? No.
07:59 PM on 07/01/2012
"No one, no country, is coming to the aid of Syrian rebels". Just how much aid should those helpless and saintly rebels receive for it to count? They are being armed, financed, protected, and given limitless support in their unscrupulous propaganda campaign. Disgusting. Syrians are dying as a result of too much meddling in their affairs and yet the "free World" is calling for "foreign intervention"!!
The opposition has been armed and instructed to boycott dialogue, too!!! This is why Annan's plan will never succeed until the outside powers decide to support a political process through compromise and national dialogue...
08:38 PM on 07/01/2012
Right on. I am disappointed with Worthington.
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wom122
Primum non nocere
09:41 AM on 07/01/2012
"No one, no country, is coming to the aid of Syrian rebels"

Except for logistical support by the US, safe haven for the FSA in Turkey, financing the rebels by the Saudi, arming them by a US-GCC coalition, and relentless media campaign in Western as well as Arab media.
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09:18 PM on 06/30/2012
Basicly it comes down to how many pilots and planes we want to sacrific to give the Free Syrian Army a fighting chance agaisnt the tanks and regime airpower.
The Arab powers are funnelling in weapons and fighters, super, a new Spanish civil war all for them. Without the ability to counter air power and armour they will win up like the good guys in that war too.
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09:14 PM on 06/30/2012
Where does HuffPost find reporters - the unemployment line?

"Syrian air power is too formidable"

For who? Lebanon?

Speaking of retirement, maybe its time...
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dredesch
09:09 PM on 06/30/2012
Whether with outside help (as in Lybia) or without, revolutions in the Middle East has usually led to Islamist factions taking power. We saw it in Iran, when the U.S.-backed Shah was replaced with Khomeiny. The same is happening in Irak, Afghanistan (or will as soon as all U.S. troops are gone) as well as Pakistan and Yemen, where there are no declared wars but people killed by a drone are still dead. Turkey's "moderate" islamists got in power electorally, as did the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt before the assembly was dissolved.

We are going to have to learn to deal with the people of the Middle East. Over the last century or so, the actions of the U.S., Soviet Union and several European countries to control North Africa and western Asia have led many ordinary people there to reject all Western values as those of conquerors and oppressors. The wars in Irak and Afghanistan have done nothing to dispel those feelings but instead, have fanned the flames.

If we don't recognize that there is some justification to those feelings, then we'll never be able to deal peaceably with African and Asian muslims. Angry people are fodder for ambitious politicians, wannabe dictators or religious factions to munch on and exploit.
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AuntiFascist
Orwell predicted Harper
01:45 PM on 06/30/2012
Why is the hard right in both Canada and the USA (Romney, McCain, et al) poking at the Russian's? Sarah Palin once expressed a willingness to invade Russia. Note Worthington's comment,

"Russia knows full well that Assad is a tyrant (it takes one to know one?) and it's time he gave way to change. "

What are they driving to? What are they afraid of? I'm missing something or the hard right ready for a big and profitable war?
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10:51 PM on 06/30/2012
Because the truth is Assad has a majority of the population supporting him.

This is not a revolution it is a coup d’etat.

That is why all supporters of Assad are not allowed to participate in the solution. Only Russia is there since they cannot be eliminateda as a veto holding member of the UN.
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10:36 AM on 07/01/2012
AuntiFascist, Putin himself has already made public statements pointing out the lies that are claiming he said or thinks this and that.

Russia is doing the right thing by defending Syria.
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01:45 PM on 06/30/2012
Alright Petey, you've bagged enough wind, yet again. First you say that they should handle it internally, no outside help and then say that 'clandestine help is coming from Arab countries', which appears to bear your tacit approval. It's not that you are a hypocrite, this time, it's just your usual, con mentality that is caught up with the idea that sucking and blowing is a grand old time.