Something called the UN Committee Against Torture and Terrorism is blaming Canada, and seeks an apology and compensation for three Muslim Canadians who were held and allegedly tortured in Syria.
The three were apprehended separately in Syria -- 2001, 2002 and 2003 -- and it's possible, even likely, that truck-driver Ahmed al-Maati, electronics engineer Abdullah Almalti and geologist Muayyad Nureddin did nothing that would get them arrested, much less convicted, in Canada.
But they weren't in Canada. They were in Syria.
In his inquiry into the case, former Supreme Court Justice Frank Iacobucci cleared consular officials of any wrong doing, but noted that Canadian intelligence passed information to other intelligence agencies, which "indirectly" may have led to these guys being held -- one for 34 days, another for 22 months. One claimed the soles of his feet were beaten.
Intelligence services of allied countries routinely share certain information. And in these days of international terrorism, it is essential that this practice not only continue, but be expanded. But cautiously and accurately. If certain countries go too far, torturing or holding people in custody for long periods -- then the "victims" have an issue with that country.
These three guys should be suing Syria, not Canada.
But Canada has already shown that it'll pay big money if individuals are abused in countries like Syria -- a case in point is the $10 million awarded to Maher Arar who was an unwilling guest of the Syrian regime.
As for the UN Committee against T&T, it has a dossier of complaints against virtually every country in the world, with a large file against Canada. It is another useless, toothless, obnoxious UN body that concentrates on easy targets instead of rooting out real villains. And it has no power anyway. Imagine blaming Canada for abuses by Syria!
The UN group also bellyaches about alleged mistreatment of Omar Khadr at Guantanamo Bay. One wonders, what mistreatment would that be? In custody, yes, but how about the good food, sunshine, no obligations, no nonsense like water-boarding or deprived sleep, access to Red Cross and lawyers?
All Khadr has to complain about is being detained. But that's enough for the UN body to blame Canada for not wanting the guy back in our country as soon as possible. As for the three guys who ran into trouble in Syria -- tough bananas.
If you become a Canadian citizen from a country that does the sort of things Syria and Iran do, beware about visiting for weddings or holidays. If you take a chance, knowing full well what can happen, then it's your responsibility, not Canada's.
Yes, our diplomatic mission should do what it can to help citizens in trouble. But an individual's treatment by Syrians should not be cause for the Canadian government (read, taxpayer) to reward the person with a fancy payoff. It verges on the impudent for a UN agency to say Canadian "complicity" resulted in violation of the rights of these three guys who landed in Syrian jails. What "rights" does anyone have in Syria?
Worse, the agency seems to feel that the $10 million Arar got should be a standard for what others get as compensation. Nonsense. By all means, Canada can, and perhaps should, publicly condemn Syria for possible abuse towards Canadian citizens.
As for money -- no way. And no apology. But a warning to be careful next time.
That said , Canadians who travel abroad must understand that they do so at the sufferance of the country they visit. This means that you obey their laws in every way. If the country you are visiting believes it has reasons to think you have contravened their laws, or are carrying out activities which they deem detrimental , you can expect to be arrested and subject to their usual form of detention. It is important to understand that you are not visiting a country that necessarily operates with a legal system and political system such as we have in Canada .
In my opinion , there is no right on the part of those who find them selves in such a predicament , much as I can sympathize with them , to sue the government . As to information being passed around from one agency to another, that is the way of this world and it is not going to change anytime soon.
Peter Worthington believes that country of birth should determine if Canadians should be helped or not. That's discrimination, which is clearly illegal according to (something called) the Canadian Human Rights Act.
See #3: Prohibited grounds of discrimination:
For all purposes of this Act, the prohibited grounds of discrimination are race, NATIONAL OR ETHNIC ORIGIN, colour, religion, age, sex, sexual orientation, marital status, family status, disability and conviction for an offence for which a pardon has been granted or in respect of which a record suspension has been ordered.
What do you think? Shouldn't ALL Canadians be held to the same rules?
Fortunately international law does not support such a fallacy.
If Canada has played part, directly or indirectly, in the torture of Canadians then it should pay up. No Canadian deserves to be tortured, not even the ones who were born elsewhere.
Peter's ideas divisive, and in my view unCanadian.
You are right that no Canadian deserves to be tortured and the government should do all it can to prevent from happening , but I canot agree that the government becomes financially responsible if torture happens.
WE don't torture, we have people for that sort of thing.
Of course, if any of these people were white christians, I can bet what side this writer would be on.
When I first read about that, as an Israeli whose grandfather was tortured by the Syrian army, I truly felt for him.