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It's Public Transit, People, There Are Going to Be Strollers

Posted: 01/24/2013 8:43 am

"There are too many strollers on buses." "These mothers today and their SUV strollers." "That kid shouldn't even be in a stroller." There's been a lot of that kind of sentiment going around since a citizen issued a complaint at a Toronto Transit Commission meeting on Monday about strollers obstructing the aisle on TTC buses. Transit staff will look into the issue and report on whether there is, indeed, a need for guidelines. (Note that TTC CEO Andy Byford says they have no plans to start charging an extra fare for strollers.)

Here's the thing.

Sure, it's a pain to fit a stroller on a bus. The newer (I guess they're not even that new any more, are they? I'm showing my age!) wheelchair accessible buses that ride closer to the ground make it much easier to get a stroller onto a bus than ever before. Once you are on the bus, however, seats need to fit around the protruding wheel humps. (I'm quite sure that's the official word for them: wheel humps.) This causes a bit of a bottleneck about one third into the vehicle that's annoying during rush hour even without any strollers. Throw a couple Gracos into the mix and your transit commute becomes a live action Tetris game. I get that. Do you know who else gets that? The parents or caregivers who are trying to take up as little space as possible while placating a baby or toddler on a crowded bus ride and apologizing to every person squeezing past, that's who.

That brings me to my next point. Nobody brings a stroller on the TTC during rush hour unless they have to. I live in the city and have three children under seven years old. We didn't own a car at all until the second baby was born. I know what I'm talking about. For the most part, parents do try to coordinate their travel to avoid rush hour. We're not all masochists! But sometimes you have no choice. Child care is hard to come by in this city and some people do need to lug their kids to and from daycare on buses and streetcars. Is that not punishment enough? Or you could bring a five-year-old and two-year-old downtown for a rally supporting pay equity for midwives when you are heavily pregnant with a third baby and accidentally find yourself boarding the subway with a giant belly and a sit-and-stand stroller in the heart of rush hour and have to contend with scowls and sideways glances because how dare you impinge on that guy's right to a child-free commute!? Ahem, you know, for example.

If there's a stroller on a bus during rush hour, basically, it's because it has to be there. More commonly, you will get a stroller traffic jam mid-morning or mid-afternoon. That can also be a hassle for anyone else trying to squeeze by, but it usually works itself out. In those cases, there is plenty of room on the bus if you don't mind moving back a bit.

And I'd just like to point out that the so-called SUV strollers people like to complain about tend to be economy models. It's actually quite expensive to buy a nice, sleek, light-weight and transit-friendly stroller. Contrary to popular belief, the SUV models are not a sign of exorbitant indulgence. They're simply the only affordable options for many people until their kid is big enough for a $15 umbrella stroller (but that's another story).

But why do these kids need to be in strollers anyway, you ask. Babies, for one, can't walk and while some sort of baby carrier is always an option it's not always the best choice for everyone. (If I was going to be out all day, I would want both a stroller and a carrier, for example.) The thing that most people seem to be completely unaware of is that while toddlers can walk, they really do need to be strapped down for their own safety. Children under three or even four years old have the impulse control of Rob Ford at a football game and I would never feel safe taking the TTC unless they were harnessed into a stroller, especially if I have more than one child with me.

Just remember that it's public transportation, people. That means you'll occasionally have to squeeze past a stroller or two and I'll have to bite my tongue when I miss my connection because there's an old lady taking her sweet time on the stairs. I'll try not to begrudge the perfectly able-bodied person who took my stroller's spot on the elevator and we will all pretend we can't smell that guy over there.

Can we all just agree to leave young families alone and instead focus on that pervert masturbating over there? Because that still happens.

This post originally appeared on Playground Confidential.

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04:22 PM on 01/24/2013
If breeders don't have a neighbourhood network of part-time minders who can babysit their sprog for a few hours while the parent runs errands, then maybe they should stay child-free until they build that network. Growing up in the 60s, I wasn't taken places on the bus until I could walk and was toilet-trained at the very least. Parents used to do just fine without these Hummer-sized monster strollers, why must they impose these on everybody now?
01:37 PM on 01/24/2013
This writer picks up on a good point. The original issue was raised regarding Toronto transit, and Toronto buses have a design flaw. Because they ride so close to the ground, as the author points out, the wheel forms a giant outcropping inside the bus right beside the front door, leaving only enough room for a single person to pass at a time. For some reason, what happens is that anyone with bags will immediately stop and rest them on the 'ledge' provided by the wheel cover, so the space for people to pass just got cut in half. Then, since only half the bus is on ground level (there are stairs to get to the back half), the stroller has to go right behind Bottleneck Man.

Sometimes, in addition to Bags Man, you get Road Watcher, the rider who has to stand beside the driver. These two people completely block off the entrance and everyone has to squeeze past them, but strollers can't get by at all and the blockers have to move, creating a big ruckus that appears to be caused by the strollers but in fact was caused by the bottleneck.

In other words, the strollers are only part of the issue of congestion on buses. Most of it is caused by the bottleneck and other, way more inconsiderate riders who block the way.
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10:18 AM on 01/24/2013
One they don't seem to care ,two i don't see them apologizing to anyone and three a baby takes up no more room then your chest or your back there is no need for Mac truck carriages on the bus.

Have a little class.
10:10 AM on 01/24/2013
"The parents or caregivers who are trying to take up as little space as possible while placating a baby or toddler on a crowded bus ride and apologizing to every person squeezing past, that's who."

You have a much higher opinion of the intentions and actions of -some- of these parents than is deserved.
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10:09 AM on 01/24/2013
Strange, in Montreal the parents are certainly not fussed about taking up space. In fact the buses here have a spot for strollers, where the parents can lift up the seats and fit the stroller where it will affect no one. But do you know what they do? They sit down and leave the stroller in the middle of the aisle. Of course other passengers here are similarly inconsiderate, not giving up the spots that are reserved for strollers.

I also beg to differ that small strollers are more expensive. You can buy a small very cheap stroller at Zellers or any other such store.
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09:32 AM on 01/24/2013
public transit and sidewalks werent designed for strollers, never mind todays huge ones / multiples. (also werent designed for huge, lumbering people). we had a nippy collapsible stroller for adventures and while it was often still in the way people appreciated the effort. the armchair-sized behemoths of today people drop into constricted spaces like they own them??? what message are you sending?
10:33 AM on 01/24/2013
I am sure most do not think they 'Own them", but for the short time that they are on the bus, they have rented them and should be allowed to use them for what they were made for... sitting.

I agree that a lot of kid related things have become larger than the ones seen in the past, but having used both sets with my kids, I can tell you there are legitimate reasons to having a larger stroller.

A few that quickly come to mind is we have to carry a lot more things to keep them entertained as we try to lessen the impact our kids can have on the people who do not understand what kids are like; the lack of 'sense of community' is gone on most, so everyone's kids should be not only not heard, but also not seen.

We have to carry things like sippy cups as asking for a glass of water is considered rude. We have to carry snacks as the only things available are processed/sugary garbage that will just rev our kids up even more.... we are trying to keep our kids from becoming behemoths as well.

Finally, public transit and side walks were designed with the mind set of a hundred years ago, both need to come to the new millennium and be redesigned for today's users.
10:23 AM on 01/27/2013
Right-o and what exactly has changed in between the time the boomer moms with their itty bitty strollers and you exactly? If you even look at a person's kid today you will get stares like you are a potential abductor or pedophile. There is no community because you don't want anybody giving you any advice or commenting on anything you do - it's always about you, you and your previous bundle. I have seen seniors with canes almost trip on buses because mothers refuse to move those giant strollers, the drivers are scared of the mothers and a senior who trips it's a death sentence but hey you and your child are A-OK and that's all that counts.
09:20 AM on 01/24/2013
"The parents or caregivers who are trying to take up as little space as possible while placating a baby or toddler on a crowded bus ride and apologizing to every person squeezing past, that's who."

In my experience, most don't try to take up as little space as possible OR apologize to anybody squeezing past, but maybe I've just been unlucky.