“Do you really think that's a fair comparison? Is there a historical trend of women subjugating men based on what hangs between our legs? I think sexism (and most "-ism's" for that matter) are best to not be considered in a circumstantial vacuum, but rather in a greater context. A man sending a woman offensive and antagonistic messages (whether its fake or not didn't really change anything since he was relaying it to people who could never have known in the first place), in a realistic context, is sexist.
To respond more directly to your question: are you suggesting that it would have been equally as sexist for "Diane" to respond with something like "Eat my vagina?" Because I absolutely disagree.”
Fletcher Reede on Dec 3, 2013 at 16:47:30
“Why wouldnt it be? Your sexism claim is based on his reference to his genitals. Had she done the same..would that not be the same?”
“Down here in Houston, members of our approximately 90 different law enforcement agencies, including Houston PD and Harris County Sheriff's Office have a default attitude (aka "unofficial policy") of arrest first and let the Harris County District Attorney's office sort out any mess. Unfortunately, the DAO has a general attitude of "well, if the police arrested them, they must have done something and we have to prosecute." Its a terribly destructive circular argument.
Here are two other high-profile instances of bogus charges and a completely unapologetic, or in one instance, reluctantly apologetic, for blatantly illegal arrests and detention:
Our generally unnoticed, so-called Criminal "Justice" system in Harris County is consistently ranked one of the worst in the country in many regards.
I appreciate HP (and other news outlets) raising the profile of some terribly uncaring, lazy and downright abusive law enforcement members. Make no mistake, we have some great ones....it's just rare that a good apple freshens the barrel...usually the rotten ones spoil the bunch..”
“...assuming it went the way he planned/hoped, I have to ask: How is that a prank? Seems like it would go from bad to worse. First - Guy: pretending to be remorseful, Gal: hurt and betrayed....Then - Surprise! You've been pranked! ...Second - Guy: laughing at "successful" "pranking"; Gal: Pretty dang P-O'ed.. Then you're left with a video of a pissed off person being laughed at by a jerk.
This was dumb. But I still got suckered into watching it. Shame on me....again.”
Svataben on Nov 23, 2013 at 09:00:02
“I'm right there with you!
And I have to wonder why anyone would think hurting their best friend so profoundly is funny.”
“I would say that each person who uses the term in that way is open to criticism. However long the term has been used that way. However you cut it, though, it is hyperbole and being used to evoke an emotional response that plays on imagery rooted in early- and mid-American history.
I also do not believe that it was "clear" that Ms. Palin was using it in that sense. If she was, if her intent was pure and not intended to evoke emotion and images of American slavery, then why did she give so much lip service to how it was NOT a "racist" comment? She even went so far as to give "the media" her permission to run with it just as HP has done. She knew exactly what she was doing and you're giving her far too much credit.”
ForConsideration on Nov 11, 2013 at 11:46:35
“So... you are suggesting that this was 'calculated'? Hmmm... you make a good case for it. And perhaps she was using HP as much as they are using her. Interesting. The fact that she qualified it suggests that she might have been better off eluding to it rather than saying it outright. Your point is well taken. Still, for HP and those that hate her, it was all about the opportunity to slam her. Unless you think that HP is just being noble here? I'm not willing to give anyone in the media that much credit (on either side - lol).
Thanks for the thought provoking comment...”
“No one is saying we can't have reasoned debate about our national debt, and we probably should. I think the criticism is at her word choice. I owe an _absurd_ amount of debt to banks, credit card companies and the federal government (student loans)...but I am NOT a slave, by a long shot..”
ForConsideration on Nov 11, 2013 at 11:24:00
“That's totally fine if you feel that way. My point was that this concept and word usage has been around for 200+ years. There are countless folks (from all political points of view) who have written about and discussed debt with this type of terminology. Just Google "debt slavery book" and you will find countless discussions and books that frame debt in this context.
Honestly, I really don't mind that you have a problem with the terminology. But it's not something that Sarah Palin invented. In financial adviser circles, it's pretty common lingo. I just saw this as HP finding another opportunity to slam Palin. I'm not a huge fan of hers, but I don't think it's write to go out looking for opportunities to spin something folks say into a big drama. I think is opportunistic. I t hink the author is actually the one who is 'using' slavery... as a way to slam someone they don't like. Just think we should be a little bigger about it.
And if you look up the definition of "slave", you will see that one of the primary definitions is "a person who is strongly influenced and controlled by something". Debt does just that. Anyway, Palin was clear that she was using it in that context. I might not agree with her conclusions, but I don't have a problem with her verbiage.”
“....THAT'S considered an "empowering" message--wanting to stick up for large-breasted models?? Props to Emily, but COME ON, HuffingtonPost....work on your article titles....or try a free online dictionary to look up some terms like "empowering" or "break down"...”
“Are you working on a Pavlovian response here?? Play the song in the background while you sing your version (which is awesome) and give the treat....then eventually, he'll expect a treat when the song comes on! I like it.”
“....look at the line you're quoting. "If YOU [male dude] want a landing strip, you better get ripped." For now, let's put aside the somewhat problematic issues with the second half of that sentence. The group they're speaking to are men who want/expect a "landing strip"....
Now, that being said, if you want to really get nitty gritty (and we have to keep in mind that this is a parody of a pop song and they're confined, to some extent, by the song they're parody-ing), the line begs for a few questions:
1) if the person IS ripped, then is it acceptable for them to want/expect said "landing strip" on their partner?
2) do two superficial objectifications make a right? In other words, is the line saying "You can only objectify me if I can objectify you."? That, in my opinion, is a valid critique.”
“1) Not all men want women to look at them "like meat". As a guy, I have been on the receiving end of some VERY uncomfortable and awkward advances (by women) and I absolutely did not like it.
2) I'm not sure the point is what men want, or even what women want....the point of this was, at least one point of many, for these women to express what THEY want.
3) I also think a point of a parody like this is to provide a critique of something. Women, many if not most, do NOT LOVE to be objectified and that is what this is about. Did you listen to the words? Primarily, they're not singing about objectifying men, even the 3 men dancing around them, they're criticizing the sexism and misogyny popularly, but harmfully, expressed in our (and many) culture(s).
....they totally get it. Are you sure that you do?”
jhv51972 on Sep 5, 2013 at 16:20:51
“I'm quite sure that I get it, and I'm quite sure that they miss it. You say it yourself: you have been on the receiving end of SOME...meaning, they weren't your type. If they HAD been your type, you probably wouldn't have felt uncomfortable, if you were inclined to have an encounter like that in the first place.
Not at all the same thing. And I never said "all men want women to look at them like meat." That's what the word "generally" does: it qualifies the statement.
As well, yes, everyone gets it. Women don't like the fact that men sexually objectify them. All women? Nope. Most women? Sure, let's go with that.
You see, that is the point that you, and they, are missing, which you said yourself: "many if not most do NOT LOVE to be objectified", and here's the kicker: even by men they ARE attracted to! There is no disagreement about this, which is why I didn't bring it up. Everyone gets it: men, don't treat us ladies like meat.
But turning the tables fails, because men LIKE IT.
The point that you, and they, are missing is that many if not most men DO. There are issues of individual taste, but if those issues are met...booyah.
Jul 31, 2013 at 23:01:06
“1) The cop can TOTALLY hear the cop take a picture of the back of the truck and text his buddies. Cops take pictures of my attractive female clients far too often.
2) This look weird to anyone else? Maybe my eyes aren't that good, but it suuuuure looks like GZ is stopped by the time the cop can even see him.
I'm crazy, I know, but this seems like some image consultant work, especially with the SUV accident.
3) Great, another white dude down here in Texas with a gun. My nervousness is at a whole new level.”
Mekaela on Jul 31, 2013 at 23:17:30
“Rightfully so, Bigblue. F&F!!!”
Kaptain Kool on Jul 31, 2013 at 23:09:23
“Definitely yes on #2. A number of people have brought it up, but the Zim supporters are ignoring it and piling more insipid comments on top.
Kinda looks like he's awaiting roadside assistance. Or his close-up.”
OcatilloRose on Jul 31, 2013 at 23:06:10
“2) This look weird to anyone else? Maybe my eyes aren't that good, but it suuuuure looks like GZ is stopped by the time the cop can even see him.
“Unfortunately, if humans were sending robots to Mars as often as humans consume fish, there would many, many, many mistakes in the former.
I get what you're saying, though. I believe, there are nets that are designed to release errant turtles and dolphins. They're not universally used, because not all countries protect the same animals, unfortunately. Also, no matter how well-designed the net, if it gets loose and just drifts in the ocean, it's going to cause all sorts of problems.
The bible, koran and torah all assert that man has "dominion" over the Earth and, especially animals. If "man" exercises this dominion to the point of species extinction, there's nothing left to have dominion over, right? So isn't species extinction due to human activity anti-God??
I'm not religious, myself, though, so I don't mean to be presumptuous.”
“No, not at all. This was a very good thing for the victims. My partner and I do a lot of work with Human Trafficking victims in and around the Houston area (which happens to be the #1 city for human trafficking in the US).
I am also, however, a criminal defense attorney and, invariably, whenever law enforcement conducts these large dragnets, they pick up some innocents, also. My comment comes, and was intended, as a critique of how we, in general, react to these news stories. There's a lot of fanfare and back-patting, but those people who were rescued were almost immediately replaced by other trafficked persons. Law enforcement needs to be more effective in being proactive against this stuff. And not just law enforcement--many, many children end up in these situations when they run away from home or are kicked out. There are pimps who actually know which 24-hour places (McDonald's, Whataburger, etc) those runaways gravitate toward and they cruise them, buy em a meal, offer them a place to stay and then it gradually builds from there. Within a few months, the once-protector is now saying things like "I can keep taking care of you, but I need you to help me..." And it'll start with having sex with their friends and then just go from there.
If kids actually had places to go that were safe and welcoming, that would be a big help. Many young girls are kicked out when parents find out they've been”
Aresmadman on Jul 30, 2013 at 21:57:11
“First, I thank you for the work you do and I hope you never suffer burn out. Because of the harm it does to our kids, I get emotional. Thank you for giving me some needed insight. God bless.”