“Why is it that evolution seems to be one of the few topics in science where clearly unqualified people think they understand the subject better than people with PhDs?
Reading a couple smart sounding analogies and watching a bunch of Youtube videos does not qualify you as an expert in biology. Heck, a PhD in biology doesn't even qualify you as an expert in evolutionary biology.”
“"Evolutionary Doctrinaire Dogma suppresses freedom of thought. "
~~~How? Where is the evidence of the suppression? I see creationist books, videos and advocacy groups all over the US. That's a funny way of oppressing and idea, letting it spread.
"Dissent, outliers, and anomalies are what leads to scientific revolutions, and fresh new thinking. The freedom of Christianity is what led to the birth of science."
~~~Freedom of Christianity is an oxymoron. Or do you not remember when the Church used to burn people alive for believing in other gods and imprison them for questioning Church doctrine based on scientific evidence.
"Which is why science literacy plummeted since dogmatic evolution became mainstream."
~~~Or because of people like you who advocate magical thinking in place of science and learning.”
“To anyone arguing that there are two sides to this issue, here's a challenge.
Find a peer-reviewed paper published in a biology journal that presents evidence for a theory other than evolution.
Fact is, there isn't a debate among scientists. There is no other side. The debate has been over for decades. The only debate that is occurring is political and is motivated by people who have a personal religious need to deny reality.”
“Why do you think that virtually every person with a PhD in biology accepts the theory of evolution? When your car is not running properly, do you take it to your dentist just to avoid being "indoctrinated" by a mechanic?”
“You do realize that citizen inventors are generally well-educated individuals, don't you? Not many people who believe the earth is 6000 years old are making advances in biology. Sure, it's a generalization. But it's also true.”
“"Remember a couple years ago when we thought we found particles that were faster than light?"
~~~Yeah. Remember how the researchers opened their labs up to other experts and the result was determined to be an instrument error?
"Point being that atheism and science is becoming its own religion."
~~~Completely disagree. There are no tenants to atheism, no belief system, no core values, no authority, no structure. It is simply a lack of theistic belief. Science is no more a religion either.
"The scientific community should not jump to put down the beliefs of others simply because they cannot be proven. Equally, they cannot be disproven."
~~~Exactly. Something that cannot be verified or falsified is simply not science.”
“"Many of us just believe that evolution should just be stated as a scientific theory, and not as a proven fact. "
~~~Um...a scientific theory is higher than a fact. A scientific theory encompasses facts and provides an explanation for what we see in the world/universe.
I really wish people would take 30 seconds to learn what "theory" means in a scientific context. It's a sure sign of a lack of scientific understanding when someone starts talking about theory vs fact in regards to evolution.
“"there are only two worldviews those that believe in God of the bible and Jesus Christ His Son and those that don't"
~~~I think I see what you're saying. But your still setting up a false dichotomy. You're basically saying there are people with a Christian theistic view and then there is everyone else, right? That's still a false dichotomy because you are intentionally limiting the breadth of views you are willing to consider.
"all other religions are perversions of the truth, pagan though"
~~~That's the thing about ALL religions. All religious can't be right, but they can all be wrong. You're an atheist to all but one religion. I just believe in one less religion than you.
"if you don't believe in God you have to make something up, I don't have to do that"
No, I don't "have to make something up". I am perfectly content with unanswered questions. In fact, I'd much rather admit I don't know then point to some religious belief as an explanation for a natural phenomenon.
And you're hilariously wrong about one thing. You don't need to "make something up" because it's already been done for you. People made up the Bible. Human authorship of the Bible is not a matter of debate, only what inspired it.”
“"all States now that have allowed marriage of same sex are all in violation of the Constitution, and the Appointees who trashed DOMA are also guilty of gross violation of our Constitution..."
~~~Exactly what part of the US Constitution bans same-sex marriage?”
“Depends on what you mean by "creationism". If you mean a literal interpretation of Genesis, then yes, evolution does contradict it. So does geology and cosmology for that matter. But if you mean a deistic view of creation, then you're right. There doesn't need to be a conflict.”
“"I believe GOD"
~~~Stop right there. I don't care what you believe some mythical supernatural being did. I care what you can demonstrate with evidence. You have no good evidence of a god, therefore any discussion of such magical thinking does not belong in a scientific context.
And you didn't answer the question. You just dodged it and began preaching. Typical creationist.”
“"people like you who already concluded they have the facts while knowingly still desperately digging data...are often end up being close minded because they though they already have the truth despite all its absurdity"
~~~If by "people like you" you mean creationists, then yes, that accurately describes a group of people who by and large lack a sophisticated understanding of science, yet are convinced that they understand the evidence better than people who have spent decades studying the science. It's called the Dunning-Kruger effect, and you are afflicted by it.
"people who understand that they just believe, and have acknowledge that they just have faith, not fact, are people who are open to any truth or rational view that can emerge"
~~~Yeah...that described creationists EXACTLY, except for the "rational view" part. Nothing about creationism is rational. In fact, it's decidedly irrational since it relies entirely on magic.
"in other words, you are guilty of what you accused me of because you think you already have the truth"
~~~Strawman fallacy. Stop making up lies about what I have said. I have never claimed to know the "truth". I only claim to understand the scientific evidence. A claim which I can back up based on extensive education in biology.”
“"Which came first, plants or the sun?" - by Canadian Skeptic
I believe GOD fused the Physical World, not out of nothing, but out of HIS Spiritual World. I believed GOD did not only fused HIS spirits to create the galaxies, the stars, and planets, but also created living things....
physical sentient beings were created later, as vessels for lost souls that have fallen from Heaven for greed, who have freely asked GOD to give them a chance to believe so to welcome their lost souls back Home if they do so...”
“1) That's a false dichotomy. There are many other views in addition to monotheism and atheism. For example, polytheism. Even within those broad categories there are many different branches. Take Buddhism for example, which lacks a deity and claims reincarnation.
2) You're attempting to shift the burden of proof. It's not up to me to demonstrate there is no god. The burden of proof lies with people making a positive claim, i.e. that there is a god. I freely admit I don't know if there is or is not a god, and as such I have no burden of proof. In contrast, you seem to be claiming there is a god, to which I simply say, show me the evidence.